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Topic: Do you apply Linda's theories about the numbers 4 and 8 to Life Path numbers?
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Violets
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posted December 20, 2016 06:07 PM
  
My Life Path number adds up to 4.Her thoughts on that number as being karmic do ring true for me, along with other oddities. What is the general consensus here regarding that number as a Life Path number, as opposed to simply being born on the 4th or the 13th, etc? It's been decades since I delved into numerology with Linda's Star Signs, but I don't recall her really mentioning anything about Life Path numbers. Only the birth-day numbers. Thoughts? IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 21, 2016 03:14 AM
Linda considered what we call life path numbers to be secondary, having only subconscious influence. Certain planetary positions can enhance such influences. I, for example, have an 8 life path. This is a subtle influence, but is enhanced by the fact of me having a Capricorn ascendant. My father's name gives 8 (though he changed it a couple of years ago) and my sister's birth day concludes to 4, thus there is a family pattern.IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
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posted December 21, 2016 07:02 AM
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Violets
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posted December 21, 2016 09:30 AM
The number 4 doesn't appear to be any type of theme in my life, but both of my cousins (who were like siblings to me) have name number 4.I have a lot of people (relatives, children, siblings) who are birth number 8. Uranus is on my IC making an aspect to my Sun (chart ruler) and Moon, and my Dsc is in Aquarius.
I have Saturn in my 11th house (Uranus/Aquarius house). Mars in Capricorn at critical (26) degrees... Not sure if my natal reflects much there, but the description of 4 resonates with me. Not sure if that counts... IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 21, 2016 10:17 AM
While you may be Uranian (Uranus conjunct the ic aspecting the sun and moon), you don't have yourself the 4 or 8 numerological influence, that being a good thing. These numbers have a fatalistic overtone.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 21, 2016 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
While you may be Uranian (Uranus conjunct the ic aspecting the sun and moon), you don't have yourself the 4 or 8 numerological influence, that being a good thing. These numbers have a fatalistic overtone.
What does it say about the Life Path? More of a subtle fatalistic overtone?  I shouldn't laugh. My life does have a very "fated" theme to it, in a very heavy way. Also, thank you for responding to my questions! 
It's very kind of you to take the time. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 21, 2016 09:38 PM
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What does it say about the Life Path? More of a subtle fatalistic overtone? I shouldn't laugh. My life does have a very "fated" theme to it, in a very heavy way. Also, thank you for responding to my questions!
It's very kind of you to take the time.
Don't mention it 
If you aren't Capricorn or Aquarius sun or moon sign (I understand you have a Leo ascendant), this 4 of yours would play out rather unconsciously. It would be accentuated, though, if you have close relationships with 4 and\or 8 people. Karma can be balanced and eradicated, even if you had 4 or 8 as a primary number. The relationships, however, involve two people at least and carry their own load of Karma with them. And the feeling of heaviness is not altogether unfamiliar to me, even though I had my chance to embark on a new path and get rid of karmic load. I missed it, and tripped over my face. I sometimes don't know if I can read my astrological chart, as unpredictable events that took place in my life defy all planetary interpretation, and sometimes I feel I was in the hands of momentary Karma. And, as I emerged from what happened to me the last couple of years, I feel a sense of lightness comes again, as I choose deliberately to delve in the heavier experience of life, i.e. the sufferings of others, and when I have to deal with suffering I feel much at home, and engaging in it voluntarily lifts the weight from my life and I am much relieved. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 22, 2016 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Don't mention it
If you aren't Capricorn or Aquarius sun or moon sign (I understand you have a Leo ascendant), this 4 of yours would play out rather unconsciously. It would be accentuated, though, if you have close relationships with 4 and\or 8 people. Karma can be balanced and eradicated, even if you had 4 or 8 as a primary number. The relationships, however, involve two people at least and carry their own load of Karma with them.And the feeling of heaviness is not altogether unfamiliar to me, even though I had my chance to embark on a new path and get rid of karmic load. I missed it, and tripped over my face. I sometimes don't know if I can read my astrological chart, as unpredictable events that took place in my life defy all planetary interpretation, and sometimes I feel I was in the hands of momentary Karma. And, as I emerged from what happened to me the last couple of years, I feel a sense of lightness comes again, as I choose deliberately to delve in the heavier experience of life, i.e. the sufferings of others, and when I have to deal with suffering I feel much at home, and engaging in it voluntarily lifts the weight from my life and I am much relieved.
I don't have Cap or Aqua Moon, but I can relate to a lot of what you've said. My husband and mother have Capricorn Moons. And I understand what you mean about helping people who are suffering. I feel best when I'm doing that. But my interactions with a couple of number 8 people have been tremendously karmic, and not good. Really, really traumatic and/or very bad experiences.
I'm not completely sure how to alleviate that karma... Otherwise, I mostly seem to attract numbers 2 and 3, and to some degree 1. My name number is 6, and my birth number is 7. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 22, 2016 11:38 PM
Perhaps you already alleviated that karma, by experiencing those connections, and what is left to do now is let go and heal the traumas. When 4 and 8 meet, that is when fatalistic events take place. And you cannot totally avoid it because you are pulled that way, and there is karma to balance. But maybe you've already balanced most of it, or if some more occurs, you may let it unfold.. Perhaps knowing aforehanded may shield you in a way? I don't believe you should try and avoid people with certain numbers. We usually try to avoid pain, but pain cannot always be avoided. If you see a pattern with certain numbers, you might be ready for the blow, though, and be more or less immune.
If your name number is 6, and not 15, than it assists you a lot in these connections and elsewhere, and you may magnify its influence as much as you can. But you know what, perhaps you CAN avoid some people, new 8 people, even though it may be insulting...though you cannot always go saying: "when did you say you were born? On the 26th? Sorry, we can't be friends/associates..etc." Some 8 people are really cool people. Many of them, actually. They may have very noble character. The circumstances, however, may not be in your favor.
What you can do is avoid 8, and even 4, in all sort of ways, including address and phone numbers, and magnifying 6 (excluding 15) as much as you can. That would also assist you in alleviating the 4/8 karma.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 23, 2016 10:03 AM
That is so interesting, Ayelet. edit...  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 23, 2016 10:19 AM
Um... I just noticed that my name number adds up to 87. So of course that comes down to 15. Would I could it as 87, or as 15?  Also, my son is a birth day number 15. I've sort of forgotten what that all indicates... Edit----
Okay, I just read about it via a copy of Star Signs on Google. That's kind of a relief, but interesting about the combinations. I really need to get a copy for myself again! I read Star Signs so much when I was younger that my copy had started to fall apart, lol. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 23, 2016 12:29 PM
Uh... My step-daughter is a name number 8. She hasn't legally changed her name, but has had a hard life.With my 4 Life Path and her Name number 8, is that a bad combination then? IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 23, 2016 06:34 PM
Your name number is 15. That is not very good combined with 4, but it is a secondary 4.
4 and 8 combined are fatalistic, but I don't see there is much you can do, besides perhaps persuade your step daughter changing her name.The second chance you have now seems like a spiral kind of thing. You got to the same spot in a different circle. It's a new cycle, and things are never the same as they were. In a similar way, you apparently are not the same person you were either. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 24, 2016 08:46 AM
I seriously need to get the book again.I did just read that the 15 is not a good combo with 4, but mostly that it can bring about bad experiences with psychics and that sort of thing... Mostly I have a difficult time finding a good healer or psychic after numerous attempts (which are never cheap) but I've done it. That person is very ethical. My step-daughter and I get along really well, but we don't see each other very often. Usually only once or twice a year. Is there anything else attached to the 15-4 combo? IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 24, 2016 01:47 PM
The 4-8-15 comho makes the person either a victim of black magic or negative suggestion, or user of such methods.IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 24, 2016 10:40 PM
In such a subtle manner, it may mean someone may influence you not to believe enough in yourself, or foreseeing some unnecessary negativity for you, and you may be inclined to let that negativity materialize. I guess you could work this out, it also being quite a subtle influence, but you may still not take your chances and change your name to 24 or 33...IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 25, 2016 05:03 PM
Well-said.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 26, 2016 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
In such a subtle manner, it may mean someone may influence you not to believe enough in yourself, or foreseeing some unnecessary negativity for you, and you may be inclined to let that negativity materialize. I guess you could work this out, it also being quite a subtle influence, but you may still not take your chances and change your name to 24 or 33...
This does make sense, all of it, as you said on a subtle level.
I'm sorry it has taken me so long to respond back to your comment (every time I go to comment from my phone I end up having to re-enter my username and password, and it's been making me lazy about it, lol). I'm still pondering all of this, but I can see it. I'll have to come back when I've had some coffee and offer a proper reply. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 29, 2016 08:49 AM
All of what has been said does ring true for me. I don't know how much of that I would care to divulge on a public forum, but it does ring true.As my son's birth number is 15, and my Life Path number is 4, I don't want to assume the negative for our interactions and/or influences with each other, but as neither of us can change our date of birth, I wonder how it's best to mitigate the influence of the combination? It's interesting to note that my mother in-law is also a birth-day number 15, and her maiden name adds up to 4. Her married name adds up to 8. My step-daughter is a name number 4, as I mentioned. Would the influences of my Birth Path and 15 name numbers be intensified when I'm around them? (Likewise for my son, as a birth number 15?) IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 29, 2016 08:54 AM
In other news, my Leo husband has been hounding my Uranian self to change my last name, and I've either been evasive about it, or outright stoutly refused. I think I will just go ahead and add the hyphenated version while keeping my maiden name, which would change my name number to 7, like my birth number (fitting for a Pisces Sun, I suppose).Possibly better to have a 7 name number than a 15? IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 30, 2016 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
All of what has been said does ring true for me. I don't know how much of that I would care to divulge on a public forum, but it does ring true.As my son's birth number is 15, and my Life Path number is 4, I don't want to assume the negative for our interactions and/or influences with each other, but as neither of us can change our date of birth, I wonder how it's best to mitigate the influence of the combination? It's interesting to note that my mother in-law is also a birth-day number 15, and her maiden name adds up to 4. Her married name adds up to 8. My step-daughter is a name number 4, as I mentioned. Would the influences of my Birth Path and 15 name numbers be intensified when I'm around them? (Likewise for my son, as a birth number 15?)
Hi Violets. I have no idea what could mitigate the influence. I also don't know how do 15 and 4/8 influence each other in two different persons. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted December 30, 2016 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
In other news, my Leo husband has been hounding my Uranian self to change my last name, and I've either been evasive about it, or outright stoutly refused. I think I will just go ahead and add the hyphenated version while keeping my maiden name, which would change my name number to 7, like my birth number (fitting for a Pisces Sun, I suppose).Possibly better to have a 7 name number than a 15?
As lond as this is 25 or 34. 16, 43 or 52 would not be advisable. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 30, 2016 08:25 AM
Thank you, Ayelet. I'll take a look. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 31, 2016 10:21 AM
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Violets
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posted December 31, 2016 01:18 PM
Well, nice. It would add up to 16.  Nevermind, then. Too much hassle, I'm pretty sure. IP: Logged | |
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