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Topic: If all else fails..
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belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2009 08:14 PM
 
Ok so we break up after 9 years..I have transit uranus on DC square moon
he has neptune conjunct moon square sun But.. wont our composite save the relationship? Jupiter is trine the composite sun. Neptune is sextile moon and just entered 7th house. Heres the chart http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=7yhfileFWsWUg-u1233410467;gm=a1;nhor=432157;nho2=3026475;btyp=621;mth=gw;sday=16;smon=4;syr=2009;hsy=-1;zod=;orbp=;rs=0;ast=&lang=e&stx2=s=ou ts=24 ------------------
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belgz
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posted April 15, 2009 08:22 PM
jupiter the 5th house ruler is conjunct the DC in our composite..Pluto is conjunct south node.. saturn is sextile 4th house and jupiter the 5th house ruler.. Composite transits usually trigger relationships but this one still seems to me like as if its not over yet. does anyone feel the same? ------------------
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 87
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 06:06 AM
isnt there any hope is it that bad?IP: Logged |
writesomething
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posted April 16, 2009 10:34 AM
Theres a lot of transits going on in your composite together. Uranus is squaring the Sun/Venus conj and Saturn is squaring it. This could indicate a ending, or at least very intense instability between you guys. I can see why the strength in your composite together, and can understand why it'd be difficult to let go. But theres many things that alarm me about your composite together, first of all, Aries moon opposite Pluto(exact), this indicates emotional blackmail, intensity, psychological games, painful situations, and a lot of time(but not all the time) abuse, in either physical or mental sense.
Mars is squaring jupiter, so together, you guys probably argue and fly off the handle out of nowhere. Irritation and lack of patience when youre together. Theres many arguments, fights. Moon in aries just adds to this.
Saturn is in Libra, trine Venus, to me shows this relationship is very karmic and is here to teach you many things, not always good things.
I think its best you stay away from this guy, hes no good. I know its difficult, but you deserve a relationship that isnt about lies, and abuse.
Pluto transit over your composite south node, could indicate a time where your relationship is ending due to something karma/past life attached to it. When I see this, I think "endings".
Theres a lot going on with your composite with him, and theres many transits going on, so I can defintely see the drama going on just by looking.
Hope this helped. Good luck.
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 87
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 10:58 AM
thanks i guess i need to just see it or hear it to accept it. We do argue alot. Im the one thats prob abusive. But i need him in my life to balance me out, im just a gemini moon without his taurus sun. HE stabilizes me. Without him id be off with some air sign in and out of love triangles. When we live together were not bad. Were very good. When i dont get my way i make it happen my way.
Im the ***** i dont deserve anyone. If i cant get along with him i dont see myself getting along with anyone. I probably want to marry him because i can mould him to what i want, and then have my routine of a family life all under control. Either he brings out the worst in me or i have some insecurities i need to deal with, im not sure what they are yet, sometimes i think its because his mind doesnt work as quick as mine and i expect someone to have answers straight away and know what they want, but hes slower than me. But if i didnt have that im not sure how i will be. Im confused and even if i went to see a counsellor they would only ever hear one story and that would be mine... thanks writesomething
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Mama Mia
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posted April 16, 2009 11:13 AM
Uh Belgz sweetie sounds like you are a control freak that needs to grow up..Sorry its the truth..Oh and it sounds like your co-depent to..Learn to balance yourself go deep inside and do the work that you need to do on yourself..Oh and nothing will save this relationship but work,growth and free will from both ppl.. IP: Logged |
belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 11:24 AM
I do love him i do respect him. Ive never bee IN LOVE with him but i feel something deeper for him. I cant get my head past 9 yrs that ive never met his parents. 9 years thats were not married. 9 years of him getting me paranoid in regards to his true feelings and him not knowing what he wants out of life. He dragged this relationship on and kept me hanging onto it. The only thing i seen positive was the staying power and the fact that he was more stable than i was. thats what im attracted to but he messed with my head and my feelings and i became that way. Like i said he brang out the worst in me. I have ver good relationships with everyone around me but it was always just him. i waited at home for him for hours and days waiting for him he had a drinking problem i tried to help him but i did my own head in and now im the mess and hes fine. Its complicated and i cant really explain 9 yrs on here, but i am admitting to my own mistakes. Accepting my mistakes should teach me a lesson. But my mistakes were a result of his lies. Him covering up everything. ------------------
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Mama Mia
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posted April 16, 2009 11:33 AM
Ive seen this oh so many times from ppl. He only did what you allowed him to do..I suspect that your self worth was not to high or your standards either, and you know what I am not mad at you about that bc lots of women ppl go through that before they get it right..What I am saying to you now is its time for you to focus on you and get you in order. He's now fine like you said so focus on you find your strength and hit on that target. ITs time for you to do some soul searching and do some healing. And the hard part is doing just that for some ppl. Admitting your mistakes is a start but trying to turn them around and make them better says alot more..Don't blame anyone else for who you are take the responsibility and move forward. Bc if you don't it won't get any better. This relationship sounds very toxic and co-dependent of both ppl feeding off each other..I bet you if you start to do some work on yourself and get yourself together eventually you will be trying to figure out why you have stayed with him all these years and start to visiualize yourself with out him and soon make it happen with the greatest of ease.. Something things just run their course and this may have just done that. But rather it has or it hasnt the bigger picture you have to see on your own..And Astrology is not gonna help this relationship right now..Well Maybe Venus being in retro has done something here.. Goodluck girl.. IP: Logged |
GemGemGem
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posted April 16, 2009 12:02 PM
Belgz, the lesson Uranus on your DSC square Moon, is meant to teach you may be to be emotionally independent. If you are using your relationship, or boyfriend as a crutch, Uranus will take it away, and make you stand on your own.The ability to be independent, and stand on your own, is one of Uranus's greatest gifts!
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songwriter
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posted April 16, 2009 12:16 PM
Mama Mia, I love your advices! The advices you give for each situation is helping me a lot in solving my own problems. Thank you  Belgz, I hope you see the right thing for yourself. Toxic relationships drain people's energy and life force, yet most people stay in the relationship and hang on for years, because they are used to it. Dont be one of them 
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Mama Mia
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posted April 16, 2009 12:22 PM
Thankyou songwriter, thats why we are here to help each other, not tear each other down..IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 87
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 08:00 PM
Thanks everyone is right. I didnt realise everything until i actually wrote it and reread everything. Ive clung to him for all the wrong reasons. But i felt secure because he never left me and i always just felt he will see it throough till the end..I hate the idea of having to find someone else, i hate risking more time and energy. I just thought id always stick to what ive got. And yes uranus is teaching me to be independant. When hes not with me all the time i feel like he doesnt wanna be with me.
All the time i sit at home waiting around for him while hes out enjoying himself with his mates. I made a really big mistake i had alot of expectations in return for all the waiting i did but it never happened. In the end he always used i love you and told me i was always the love of his life and how much he loved me and id get sucked in and feel sorry for him, forgetting what the problem was.. Im alot better this morning and im ready to move on.. ------------------
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katatonic
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posted April 16, 2009 08:14 PM
atta girl! you know you are far from alone. probably most of us, including men, have had a relationship with a lot of similarities to this. though not everyone hangs on for 9 years.i think you can probably say you gave the relationship the best shot you could with what you had, and the tide is turning in favour of your getting a new relationship - with yourself!! and, lovely, that is worth it!! IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 10:08 PM
Your composite has saturn opposite the moon, which tends to confer a depressive feeling to the relationship. Also, the Sun-Venus conjunction is opposed by Neptune, though the orb is kinda wide, there is confusion as to where things stand, and as to you're getting married or not. Transiting Saturn in Virgo is going to square this aspect at some point this year, and it's not going to be good. Some redeeming qualities: Transiting Neptune and Jupiter in Aqua when they go into the 7th house will be lending some needed support to the Sun and Venus in Gemini and the Neptune in Sagg, and having these planets in the 7th house anyway is always a good indication of marriage. So maybe all is not lost. The question is, do you really think the relationship is worth saving? As a Cancer sun, you tend to cling to things and you're afraid of let go... IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 87
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2009 10:42 PM
We do have problems but these are all caused by his family. The more they pushed me away the more i did to rebel and push them further because of my so called pride..so i felt guilt too and later i blamed myself. I wrote his mum a 7 page letter calling her a murderer and in hope that she will see her son does really love me i sent her pictures of us happy together and him holding my face and kissing me. The whole time she told me her son wants nothing to do with me and that hes only using me. She questioned how decent of a girl i was to let him do this to me.. Its his family. That pluto moon opposition is his mum.. Somwehere in my heart i believe hes the one but he wont make it happen without his mums blessing. He has all good reason to love her i guess. She loves him alot. I was messed up as a child. I rang his mum at 16 and told his mum he was doing drugs and drinking alot and that i couldnt help him. But she was in denial of her sons mistakes and accused me of lying and insulted me instead. Since then she has hated me for ringing and telling her this. I told her i wanted to help him. Then somehow i was the worst person in the world. But really i saved him from all of that. Im hurt because look what i get in return for all that i sacrificed im hurt because why am i hated by his family when I never did anything wrong to them.. I believe he mightve lied to his family about his true feelings for me because they were so against me. And it was this thought that dragged me along 9 years. It was the thought that he really did love me but just couldnt get his family to accept. So i tried to prove more to him i guess and then i became impatient and expected results straight away because enough time had passed but it never happened. He will always be his mummys boy. Or like his mum said he used me all these years to kill time untill the right girl came along. I never cry for anyone in fact i dont cry at all but the last 4 days i have been crying that much my stomache hurts. I cant eat or sleep and im disturbed.. SEVERELY! HE was the person i put my trust into. He was the one i said will never do anything wrong by me. HE still hasnt technically done anything physically but has betrayed me emotionally. ------------------
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belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 19, 2009 03:51 AM
WE ARE BACK TOGETHER  ) I dont think anything can really break us up. Nothing has fate just brings us back together....
His mum lied to me. If i ever have a son i will never be like this woman. Why dont mums respect who there sons love.
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