posted March 21, 2010 04:29 PM         

raymond is a virgo rising and had a difficult birth.

my daughter is a virgo rising and had a difficult birth.

completely random?

my little virgo riser is as stubborn as can be and the more you try to move her the more she balks. I can see her doing that in birth too.

posted March 21, 2010 04:36 PM         

The overall chart has to be looked

My Virgo Ascendant is modified by a conjunction to dwarf planet/Plutoid,Haumea (It's the equal of Pluto,Eris,Makemake in Astronomy) with 2'10 orb.
Haumea also squares my Midheaven with 3 minutes of arc.

My Moon in Pisces is also in t-square, squaring the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius with corresponding midpoint pictures of Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint and Saturn semisquare Moon/Jupiter midpoint.

In Right Ascension, the Moon square Jupiter-Saturn is closer, and so I have Moon oppose Jupiter/Saturn midpoint in Right Ascension.

My Moon is is also in t-square with retrograde transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, Varuna in Gemini and Neptune in Sagittarius for a t-square with a corresponding midpoint picture of Moon oppose Neptune/Varuna midpoint.

In Right Ascension,Moon in 8th harmonic aspect with Eris and Saturn with corresponding midpoint picture of Eris conjunct Moon/Saturn midpoint.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 04:45 PM         

edit:
both of my nephews have Virgo rising (one at the same degree as me, and the other less than a degree in difference)

Nephew #1 was born three weeks early but the delivery was quick. He weighed 6.3..and had trouble gaining weight but was an overall healthy baby.

posted March 21, 2010 09:14 PM         

I have saturn and pluto trine moon. (2 deg orb)

posted March 21, 2010 11:11 PM         

I have saturn and pluto trine moon. (2 deg orb)"

Do you have any hard aspects involving the Moon,Ascendant,and/or Midheaven?

any of the large transneptunian objects involved

I believe that hard aspects to the large transneptunian objects like Pluto can be involved in traumas.
Both Makemake and Haumea are transneptunian dwarf planets that are named after creation fertility deities. Makemake is named after Rapanui male creation fertility deity. Haumea is named after Hawaiian female creation fertility deity.

for example:

I have Moon square transneptunian dwarf planet,candidate Varuna

I have Haumea conjunct the Ascendant and square the Midheaven.

Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven hard aspects involving the heliocentric,geocentric nodes of Saturn,Uranus,Neptune, transneptunians could be involved too.

for example:

I have Geocentric Uranus Node oppose the Midheaven and square the Ascendant and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes square the Ascendant.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 11:40 PM         

Transiting 2002 AW197 in 15'14 Cancer R
conjunct her Mercury in 15'26 Cancer
oppose/conjunct North Lunar Nodes in 14'53 Cancer/Capricorn

2002 AW197 is a dwarf planet candidate because it's over 700 km in diameter. If an object is in hydrostatic equilibrium (making it round), it qualifies for dwarf planet status. For it to be in hydrostatic equilibrium, it has to be at least 400 km in diameter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%2855565%29_2002_AW197

Transiting Uranus in 15'17 Libra
square her Mercury
square her Lunar Nodes

Mercury rules her 4th house

also

her Venus/Mars midpoint is in 15'26 Libra

Venus/Mars midpoint is a midpoint that is associated with the reproductive organs.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 22, 2010 11:17 AM         

Her Solar Arc 2002 AW197 was in 15'15 Cancer,and so it squared her Venus/Mars midpoint. Transiting 2002 AW197 triggered that Solar Arc picture,almost exactly conjunct her solar arc 2002 AW197,conjunct her 4th house ruler Mercury, and square her Venus/Mars midpoint. Transiting Uranus triggered the Solar Arc picture, conjunct her Venus/Mars midpoint,almost exactly square her solar arc 2002 AW197,square her Mercury.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 22, 2010 11:51 AM         

recommended orbs:
3 degrees
for all ptolemaic aspects except sextile that gets 2 degrees

1 degree for quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile

The big transneptunian objects that have names,and so have correlating archetypes include
Eris,Pluto,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion

These are known as the evolutionary intensified objects
Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations.

It would makes sense that hard aspects involving these objects can indicate traumatic experiences. Transneptunian,Pluto is already given some credit for that. It makes sense for the other big transneptunians to be involved too. Therefore,they could be in hard aspects to Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven in difficult births.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"