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vapor-lash
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posted June 04, 2010 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
I realized today that I am just plainly disinterested in having a serious romantic relationship with someone.

It's not that I'm wary of it nor am I wondering "what ifs" -- I am just disinterested. The thought does nothing to me.

I'd prefer to be alone. I need space.. and I feel suffocated by people in my space.

I have a female Capricorn friend (I don't know the rest of her chart) who feels the same way.. but she may have Aries in her chart.. She connects with me in a way I find fiery.. If it is not Aries, then she definitely has Leo or Sag in her chart.

Do you think this feeling is more due to Capricorn or due to Fire-influence?

My first thought was Aries (possibly other fire signs) - because of my deep feeling of suffocation when someone is TOO close for my liking -- for example, when they are living with me.

I just want to break free.

No matter what I say on the surface.

Deep down I want to escape the situation and make a run for it.

I have finally moved out this week from the place where I was living with my roommate and it was such a HUGE rock lifted of my shoulders. The best times of my life were those when I lived alone. It just gives me a type of inner joy to have that space. It makes it easier for me to breathe.

Does anyone else feel this way?

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Got Gemini?
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posted June 04, 2010 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
You know Vapor, while I don't live alone, I can DEFINITELY relate! My best times were before I got married and lived on my own. I miss that freedom. I am also disinterested in being with anyone at the moment in a serious relationship. I mean, if a special lady presented herself, I might try it out, but it would be a slooooooow courting. I really just want some time to myself, actually, a LOT of time to myself.

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Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
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And yes, i'm a guy!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 04, 2010 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I always feel this way. Moon Aries/oppose Uranus will do it. Esp in the 12th. Lots of freedom to be felt in solitude...I often miss it.

Honestly, in general, I don't think one needs to sacrifice relationship for time alone. I ended up doing that in my marriage because I couldn't stand the person and was delighted to find I was sooooooooo happy to be alone again.
But let's face it, we tend to romanticize what we don't have when we have solitude OR relationship in large amounts.

I think in general some of us esp 12th house influence or strongly fire-influenced with hard Uranus will NEED time alone no matte what. Esp the 12th house thing, we tend to pick up people emotional garbage and need to just decompress and shed all of that in order to sort out what feelings are mine/what feelings are theirs.

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Diana
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posted June 04, 2010 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Every aries I've ever known was always in a LTR. It's like they couldn't be alone. I don't think it's the aries -- not sun, anyway.

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vapor-lash
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posted June 05, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
GG - it's interesting that I often relate to things you write - and you seem to also relate to things I write. But our charts are pretty different.

My Venus is at 0˚ Taurus, conjunct my NN also at 0˚ Taurus. Maybe that counts, because of the very close trine to your Mars.

MVM,

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let's face it, we tend to romanticize what we don't have when we have solitude OR relationship in large amounts

I think you're right about this. Lately I've been feeling very smothered, so I was craving alone time!

Diana -

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Every aries I've ever known was always in a LTR. It's like they couldn't be alone.

That's very strange astrologically speaking. I'm sure you know why I'm saying that lol

Could it have been a generational thing? Did their generation have Saturn or Pluto in Libra?

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staborgi
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posted June 05, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Is this a general feeling? Or more so lately? I'm wondering if the Uranus-Saturn transit has anything to do with it

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staborgi
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posted June 05, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Also I agree about 12th house placements like MVM said- do you have any? My NN is there and I get a lot out of being alone.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 05, 2010 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Ms Vapor


Your question has Uranus written all over it, lol.

As someone who has Uranus in 7th, freedom to be me & have my alone time is mandatory & for me, walking away from a relationship is the easiest thing in the world to do.

Since Uranus is finally in Aries right along with Jupiter I'd take this as a perfect opportunity to follow your soul.

Relationships will come & go but this transit won't come around again until you're an old lady who won't have the energy to enjoy it.

This doesn't mean that you have to end things, especially if you really love them & think your relationship is worth hanging onto. Just saying keep things light & easy for the mean time, yeah?

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Diana
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posted June 05, 2010 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think it's strange. Aries (sun) is not comfortable with their feelings (self actualization) and needs a partner to feel whole and happy. They are the opposite of introspective.


They may not be the most intimacy craving sign on the surface like some other signs, but they do not like to be alone. They want freedom and excitement IN a relationship.

They all may have cheated when the relationship was over, but they still stayed until they had someone else to be in a relationship with. They don't leave until they have someone in the wings, but I guess a lot of signs are that way. I'm talking about a mixture of men and women aries suns here.


They were all different generations with different saturns and plutos etc. The only common theme was the aries sun.


I think it's uranus too, if anything. I can also see virgo suns being this way. I also know a lot of cap suns of both sexes who are perpetually single too. Fire signs like a relationship, but they don't like the limitations, so they argue with their partners over freedom issues, but they are usually never alone. I mean, seriously, think about it... how many aries suns do we have on LL that are single? Not many that I an recall. Come to think of it -- I can't recall too many sag or leo single people unless it was recently single. I can recall tons of virgos and caps though.

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posted June 05, 2010 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I have agree with Diana re Aries not the type to be alone. All those that I know won't end a relationship unless they have some warm welcoming arms to run too.

It's a rare breed of Aries to stay single, I mean who's going to listen to baby's whining if he's all on his lonesome?

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teasel
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posted June 05, 2010 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I was happily single for years, and couldn't understand why anyone would think that anyone saying they were just that (happily single) were lying.

I have several strong Uranus aspects, though, natally. I found that I was more interested in having a relationship when my progressed Venus moved into Cancer, and then my progressed Sun conjoined my progressed descendant (Taurus - and it's still there). Progressed Venus square Pluto and Jupiter = me falling head over heels. (I can't remember what was going on transit-wise, other than an eclipse in my 5th house, ruled by Pisces.)

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vapor-lash
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posted June 05, 2010 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Staborgi,

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Is this a general feeling? Or more so lately? I'm wondering if the Uranus-Saturn transit has anything to do with it

Well in general - I was never keen on relationships and the one very serious long term relationship I had - I felt a bit "nudged" and "coaxed" into.

BUT - the feeling is much stronger now.

It used to be a slight preference to being alone..

But in the past few weeks it's become something like a very strong disinterest.. I just feel completely cold about it, like it is the last thing I would "ask for" or desire on my Xmas present list.


Spanky -

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Your question has Uranus written all over it, lol.

You know reading it back now - it does sound Uranian lol

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Since Uranus is finally in Aries right along with Jupiter I'd take this as a perfect opportunity to follow your soul.

Awww Thank you Spanky. I want to follow my soul with all my heart and I feel like I have the energy to do that now. I feel like moving forward as quickly as possible. So many things have changed in such quick succession, but I'm enjoying the ride!

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This doesn't mean that you have to end things, especially if you really love them & think your relationship is worth hanging onto. Just saying keep things light & easy for the mean time, yeah?

We have ended it. I have a feeling he would've been hurt long term. He is at a different point is his life and he requires much more stability and faithfulness than I have to give. But I do love him. Who knows? Things change..
Maybe one day..

But not for now. I just want to be alone now. I need time and space.

Diana -

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Aries (sun) is not comfortable with their feelings (self actualization) and needs a partner to feel whole

and Spanky --

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I have agree with Diana re Aries not the type to be alone. All those that I know won't end a relationship unless they have some warm welcoming arms to run too.

That's very new to me. I usually read this about Libra(sign of relationships) - since it is the opposite of Aries . But it's an interesting take. I've just never heard it said before.

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they still stayed until they had someone else to be in a relationship with. They don't leave until they have someone in the wings, but I guess a lot of signs are that way.

I only noticed this trend with two Libra sun men and my Libra grandmother. Also a friend of mine has recently told me that her male Libra friend advised her to remain in her current relationship until another materialises.. even though she is not all that happy in her current.

Again - I assumed - this was a "common" Libran perspective. As you mentioned though, this could be the case for many people of many different sun signs.
It just so happens that I have personally seen this first hand - mainly - with Librans - with very few exceptions.

I advise people the exact opposite because from my perspective it is a much better and happier life to be single then with someone whom you have a negative or dull-boring relationship with for the sake of "having" a relationship. I find that attitude a little alien -- very unlike what comes naturally to me.

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Fire signs like a relationship, but they don't like the limitations, so they argue with their partners over freedom issues, but they are usually never alone

lol Well the main fire signs I attract are Sag and Leo - not Aries.
The Sags are almost always alone.
The Leos are often in a long-term relationship.

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I mean, seriously, think about it... how many aries suns do we have on LL that are single?

I actually don't know any aries in RL - right now. I did know some aries in high school but they had my Mars (in Capricorn) -- so maybe they don't count.

The only Aries people I "know" are on LL. Of the top of my head (based on previous threads) -- I think Lyra, Teasel and ariescancer are similar to me when it comes to this.

I might start a thread one of these days (I have too many at the moment lol) and ask all the LL Aries!

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I think it's uranus too, if anything.

I could see this, because my Aries Sun is in the 11th house in natal... so this Uranus transit is also transiting my 11th (where Uranus is dignified).

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vapor-lash
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posted June 05, 2010 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Teasel --

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I was happily single for years, and couldn't understand why anyone would think that anyone saying they were just that (happily single) were lying.

Well there you go! lol
I just mentioned you in my post

I feel the same way.

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 05, 2010 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Vapour that's the funny thing about you, lol.

You may be asking for guidance but only after you've done what you needed to do & that's so Aries.


Now speaking as a Libra person, I know that we sit on the fence & weigh our pro's & cons ad nauseum & I think this is the reason we tend to stay in relationships that have past their use by date. Or the opposite the only difference between our signs is that Libra asks the questions first & Aries after, lol.

That's generally speaking of course....

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Diana
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posted June 05, 2010 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Vapor, your sun is in aries? Which degree?

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Ami Ann
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posted June 06, 2010 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Vapor
What a thought provoking thread.
In my early teens, I was happy with myself as a whole unit.
I did not feel like I wanted or needed to merge with another person for self definition or to feel OK or lovable.
Then,I went through so much with my mother that something flipped and I needed a relationship in order to feel OK in the world.
Your posts reminded me of how nice it was to not need someone else to make me more or less than what I am.
Thank you, (((((Girlfriend)))


Ami

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posted June 06, 2010 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ohmybaby     Edit/Delete Message
hi ami, do you really exist? thankx

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vapor-lash
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posted June 06, 2010 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
lol That's funny Spanky - and true!
The thing is - based on past experience, things almost always ended in a mess, when I didn't follow my own mind and my own instincts. I am very wary of taking advice, for that reason. I still ask questions though because I'm curious what people think.. but if I've already made up my mind about something - I don't usually change it.

I wonder whether we are almost forced to behave in a particular way due to events in our lives..
If I hadn't been burnt in the past when I neglected my gut feelings, in favour of another's thoughtful *advice*... I wouldn't feel this way
Things just seem to fall into place and work well for me - when I listen to myself.

Maybe this is how we end up behaving like our Sun sign - and the rest of our chart - because our experiences somehow flow *accordingly* and they teach us to be a certain way... if that makes sense.

Diana - My Sun is at 12 degrees Aries!

Ami - The two girls I knew in school with Cancer Moon were very keen on marriage (not just relationships). They had it all planned. One of them even had her wedding dress picked out. She told me she found this perfect dress in a magazine when she was 10 years old! I was genuinely surprised - 10 seems so young. But you have Gemini as well (not the most relationship oriented sign) so it makes sense you weren't that into it, back then. Glad it helped! (((((Homosapien-Friend)))))

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Spanky Butler
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posted June 07, 2010 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
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If I hadn't been burnt in the past when I neglected my gut feelings, in favour of another's thoughtful *advice*... I wouldn't feel this way
Things just seem to fall into place and work well for me - when I listen to myself.

Funnily enough I went through the same thing in my 20's. I trained myself to listen to my intuition by picking which way to turn at traffic lights, lol.

For me , my thoughts were blocking my gut instincts & I had to learn to listen to instinct. It took a long time because I tended to doubt myself a lot.

It's all part of the process of getting to know ourselves & knowing what is right for us.

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