posted July 17, 2010 04:37 PM            

I've come to the conclusion that I do not like this aspect. I had it with only 2 people, so maybe I don't have enough experience with it, but so far it is disappointing. The story goes like this: I meet guy with Gemini Venus on my Gemini NN, average looking fellow, not the type I'd fall for, but he does or says or looks at me in a certain way and I am hooked. I become interested and there's this certainty that there is some deep affinity with the guy and we are meant to be (perhaps this is a good time to say that their Gemini Venus opposes my Moon and Neptune conjunction sitting happily on my South Node in Sagittarius). But for a while nothing happens because there are ethical issues and ethics score high on my book. Either my best friend is madly in love with the guy or he is already involved... with a married woman. These men came into my life during 2 very specific transits, which influenced my reaction to the situation. In the first case, there was Pluto (and Jupiter, for a while) in late Sagittarius who conjuncted my Moon and Neptune and made oppositions to my NN and his Venus. I went for it, got the guy, hell got loose and I got a third-degree burn on my heart. In the second case, Saturn in Virgo, on one hand, and Jupiter-Uranus in late Pisces/early Aries, on the other hand, all square those players, while Neptune and Chiron in Aquarius trine/sextile them. This time I didn't dare do anything. I'm sitting here in my manic-depression hoping and waiting. Naturally, this frustrates me a lot, because, like in the first case, there's just no winning for me. If I get the guy I'm the moral loser. If I don't get the guy I will always feel like I missed an important opportunity. Having someone's Venus on your NN should be big, right? Like birds and bees, rainbows and cloud No. 9. It certainly feels like that, like it holds potential for great things and this is why I can't let it go. However, putting this aspect in context, kind of changes my view on it.

Anyways, that is just my experience with this aspect, based on my unique chart and timed with my unique transits. I'd like to know other knowflakes' experiences with this wild-card aspect, if you are willing to share. I'd like to understand it better, in case, God help me, another late Gemini Venus wanders on my NN.

posted July 17, 2010 04:44 PM            

Ami

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posted July 17, 2010 05:01 PM            

Ami

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I am two with nature.

posted July 17, 2010 06:09 PM            

First of all, it doesn't matter if it's NN or SN, that Nodal Axis is a circle and forget all that Dragons or Snakes head and tail ish, the man (or woman) with Venus on your Nodal Axis will always feel like God personally introduced you to them and is saying to you - "I made this individual especially for you, my child. Go be fruitful and multiply with my permission."

The one man that I met who had Venus on my North Node looked like a pure Angel to me. He was 5 years younger than me and we only met up twice, but I swear that a CGI and Pixar crew followed him around because no matter where I saw him, even if he was standing a mile away, his eyes would twinkle and sparkle as if someone put perfect cartoon sparkles in his eyes. It actually got to the point where it pi$$ed me off, big time.

You know those lyrics, "He was too young to fall in love, and I was too young to know."

Anyway, I've been there. But I feel more sorry for YOU because of the Neptune that conjuncts your Nodal Axis, there will always be an extra added feeling of romance, fantasy and possible deception. However, one day God may take pity on you and turn that deception into INSPIRATION and/or artistry or just plain magic for you.

Hell, it's bad enough (great enough) when it's just Venus-Node, let alone Neptune getting into the act.

posted July 17, 2010 06:53 PM            

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbIdzuafPP8&NR=1

Ami

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I am two with nature.

posted July 17, 2010 07:01 PM            

DD,
You are right. But this soulmate thingie is kind of unfair, don't you think?

posted July 17, 2010 07:03 PM            

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Hell, it's bad enough (great enough) when it's just Venus-Node, let alone Neptune getting into the act.

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No, seriously, this has got to stop. I want out. Soulmates with your alluring Venuses on my NN, leave me alone!

posted July 17, 2010 07:12 PM            

And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am

posted July 17, 2010 08:13 PM            

It's probably the closest aspect in my chart. I love it personally. It makes it easier to learn Taurean lessons.

I also have it in synastry. He has NN in early Taurus (19 years older). He can be Virgonean sometimes. He has a lot of mercurial nervous energy (both Gemini & Virgo) - I think I help him unwind.
I have not hurt him in any way.

posted July 17, 2010 08:40 PM            

After about a month, I was hooked too...NGL. We were both watersuns and he also had a watermoon, so the compulsive quality of our relationship pretty much came with the territory. But when I tried to assert my Gemini Venus/Virgo Moon needs (like some personal space, seperate identity, time alone, etc.) I felt him become hurt. I'm not entirely sure how this link affected him, I'm just going by what I percieved. It couldn't have been comfortable for him though, even with his Sag Stellium, including his Jupiter that sat on his SN (or perhaps, that was a big part of the problem). Who knows? We broke up in 2007 and I haven't seen much of him since then. Though he did invade my dreams once last year after a Strawberry Daquiri.

posted July 17, 2010 08:47 PM            

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Would it be too much if I asked you to take a look at my chart and blow my mind some more?

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Email me at the address below and I'll explain.

posted July 17, 2010 09:05 PM            

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when I tried to assert my Gemini Venus/Virgo Moon needs (like some personal space, seperate identity, time alone, etc.) I felt him become hurt

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posted July 17, 2010 10:02 PM            

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Ami,
Nice song, but in my heart I've always considered "Iris" from the Goo Goo Dolls as the ultimate Soulmate Node-Venus song.

And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am

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Ultimate soulmate song, Girlfriend!

Ami

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I am two with nature.

posted July 17, 2010 10:04 PM            

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Actually, this is more like a Venus-Nodal Axis conjunction or square song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Sln3FUobA

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I GET the Venus--Nodal Axis by listening to this song. It is the familiarity.

Ami

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I am two with nature.

posted July 17, 2010 10:38 PM            

With my ex..I have south node conj both is mars and mercury and nothing jumos out at me......

posted July 18, 2010 12:27 AM            

If a man's Venus falls within 4 degrees of your Nodal Axis YOU WILL KNOW IT!!

As for the aspect you have with your mother, it simply suggests that she had more than the average amount of maternal influence on you in terms of Venusian type things such as art or even how to keep a beautiful home, she may have influenced you in terms of finances or something having to do with beauty or social dynamics. Does any of this ring a bell?

posted July 18, 2010 04:07 AM            

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I think this aspect on its own is positive - but the Neptune opposition could alter things. It's possible these men saw an illusion - not the real you - when they fell in love. I have seen this kind of thing happen in Venus-Neptune opposition where the Venus person seriously over-idealizes Neptune and they seem to think Neptune is something next to a god or goddess. No mortal can live up to such idealized images.

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Benedict,
I can relate to your story. I was Venus once, conjunct a guy's NN in Taurus. I think he felt the burn much more than I did. There was definitely a deep connection, also because our Ascendants were conjunct and his Moon-Neptune was on my Moon-Neptune, but I am sure the NN-Venus also played a big part. This was another guy that I spotted in a crowd. I guess this is a theme with this aspect. We didn't have a romantic relationship, even though he hinted on it and I also wanted it at some point. But I think he was the one who was more disappointed. I was free to do my thing, while he was sort of hooked on me.

Geo,
Will e-mail today.

posted July 18, 2010 04:14 AM            

-my NN conj their Venus (with the Leo and the Bull described above)
-my Venus conj his NN
-my SN conj his Venus.

The only one I haven't experienced yet is my Venus on their SN (thank God?). I think I can draw some conclusions based on my experience:
-Venus-SN: the Venus person gets burned big time. I hurt my ex deeply when I left him because I outgrew the relationship.
-Venus-NN: I think the NN person is the one who puts more effort into it, the Venus person enjoys the serenade but doesn't experience the dramatic compulsion of the NN person.

posted July 18, 2010 04:17 AM            

But in the example I had in mind, it is definitely the Venus person doing the idealizing. They are under the impression the Neptune person is unique and exceptional, when they are actually just an average person from everyone else's perspective.