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Agent_009
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posted December 21, 2010 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[Dear Mods, I know this is in the wrong forum, but please let Glaucus respond before relocating...Thanks!]


GLAUCUS,

I know you've written before about Earth Angels & that your one of them. I am just trying to understand as much as I can because I feel a baby Earth Angel wants my help.

Have you ever read that book,
"The Children of Now ; Crystalline, Indigo, Star Kids, Angels on Earth & the Phenomenon of Transitional Children," written by MEG BLACKBURN LOSEY, MscD, PHD.

She's a medical intuitive who specifically works with these kids. The book talks about the most distinct traits of each group of kids.

I've just finished this book last night. I purchased it, planning on giving it to the DIR as an X'mas gift.

I'm just wondering if you've read this book before, and what your opinions are regarding what she's written on Earth Angels. She did not seem to distinguish the different types of Earth Angels (EA's). I've read there are at least 5 kinds. All the example EA kids she wrote about have, "wings." Glaucus, do you have wings too? I find this aspect somewhat confusing, because I have read previously from other sources & what many psychics say..."Actual Angels," are another specie unlike our souls, & they can NEVER incarnate on earth. Hence all along, I've always thought of Earth Angels as souls like indigos etc., whom have come to earth with a mission. That is spreading awareness & helping other souls, therefore deserving the title "Earth Angel." I've never thought of EA's as the same thing as Actual Angels per se.

I really want to know your thoughts on the whole subject. Please enlighten me...Thanks!

Anyone else can feel free to comment too, especially if your an EA.

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mochai
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posted December 21, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've come across some people who say they are actual incarnated angels and feel like that is their family. I think angels can incarnate so it's hard to say. I've mostly had human-like incarnations but I've also incarnated in the fae realm somewhat recently. I wouldn't call myself an earth angel but I've been there.

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posted December 21, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I read your post.

I am working on a response.

It will include Astrology,and so this thread won't have to be moved.

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posted December 21, 2010 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't the act of incarnating as a human technically qualify as a "fall" for an angel?

I don't necessarily equate the term "fallen angel" with negativity. Not always--just a choice to leave another dimension to have the human experience, which seems frowned upon by their own kind.

Anyhoo, that's my contribution to the discussion LOL. I'm eagerly awaiting Raymond's response.

To add some astrology: Have you checked the natal chart of this child for asteroid ANGEL (11911)?

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posted December 21, 2010 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Doreen Virtue Angel Therapy Practitioner told me that I was a lightworker, an Earth Angel,and an incarnated Angel. She also noted that I have the traits of the Wise People and Star People. She told me that it was my purpose to help the Indigo,Crystal children.
I was skeptical when she told me that, showing me the Metatron: Indigo,Crystal Children card until she pulled out 3 cards out of the deck and that same card came out. I got my own angel deck cards. The very first card that I drew out of the deck was the same card. I was blown away. I also ended up picking up the same card for the main theme for 2010 year. That's what inspired me to come up with the combination of the Metatron Cube and Brain for the logo of Developmental Neurodiversity Association (DNA) which is an organization that was created for people that are genetic neurodivergent who fit with the dual/twice exceptional as well as the Indigo,Crystal,Earth Angel,and lightworker.


I could relate to much of the Indigo,Crystal traits. After reading Doreen Virtue's "Care of the Feeding of the Indigo Children", I was convinced that Indigo and Crystal were New Age labels for neurodivergents. I don't believe that Indigo and Crystal applies to a certain generation. I believe that they have always existed in every generation. These traits run strong in my family. As a little kid, I was autistic-like. As I got older and had special education therapies, I became Aspergers-like. My neurodivergent traits were extreme,and they became milder with age and therapies. I was Crystal-like,and I became more Indigo-like as I got older and had therapies.

Indigo or Neurodivergent? http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/indigo-or-neurodivergent/


I have her book, Realms of the Earth Angels. I can identify with a lot that in this book. I identify very strongly with Knights Paladin which is said to be a hybrid of Angel and Wise People. I also identify with some of the Starpeople and Merfolk traits too. I didn't really understand the physical traits which seem to fit mainly white people. I don't fit in any race box as a person of African,Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto Rican,and Native American ancestry with a strong possibility of Jew and Eastern European ancestry. I always felt different from many people because of both my multiethnic background and my neurodivergence/special education past.
http://www.hayhouse.com/details.php?id=2966


I am familiar with the book that you mentioned. As a person that has Black African ancestry, I don't like the idea of correlation of blue eyes and Crystalline. It's like implying that only white people can be Crystalline.


I was born on the 29th day (October) like Doreen Virtue and David Icke (both born April) and my maternal grandmother (March). From what I read from various sites and books, 29th birthday seems to have traits of lightworkers,Indigos,Crystals,and Earth Angels as well as neurodivergents.
Autistic Dr. Temple Grandin was born on the 29th day. Michael Jackson too. Actually both were born on August 29th. I also knew a girl who had the same birthday,and she was in special education like me too. She was my first big crush.

Decoz's interpretation of it fits me to a T. http://decoz.com/BdCard29.htm

I believe that having both strong outer planet energy (mainly Neptune) and strong transneptunian energy (mainly Ixion,Quaoar,Varuna,Sedna,Orcus,Haumea,and Eris) in my chart correlates with my identifying with neurodivergent/lightworker/Earth Angel/Crystal/Indigo/Starseed. I strongly suspect that it is the same with the charts of neurodivergents,lightworkers,Earth Angels,Crystals,Indigos,and Starseeds.

Donna Cunningham's Outer Planet Person profile seems to fit with those types too.
I did a post on it, and I also made a point about people with strong kuiper belt/transneptunian energy. http://tribes.tribe.net/neurodivergence/thread/cb480046-6b07-4c67-aff6-d530239d63fe

Lightworkers Strong in Transneptunian Energy http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/transneptunians-strong-in-transneptunian-e nergy/

My Transneptunian Aspects http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/my-transneptunian-aspects/

Astrologically Looking At Neurodivergence From The Neurodivergent Perspective http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/astrologically -looking-at-neurodivergence-from-the-neurodivergent-perspecti/

Transneptunian Objects http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/transneptunian-objects/

Genetic Neurodivergence or Acquired Neurodivergence http://spiritualnetworks.com/Glaucus/blog/genetic-neurodivergence-or-acquired-ne urodivergence/

The Sedna People http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205240.html

my next post in this thread will be on asteroids (including their geocentric,heliocentric nodes) and fixed stars in regards to angels and knights as in the Knights Paladin.


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mochai
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posted December 21, 2010 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one person I came across who said they were an incarnated angel said that they had wanted to incarnate to help earth directly through the transition. She was also freaking out asking why Archangel Uriel was attacking her and the other angels were doing nothing. It was on yahoo answers. I'm thinking it's because uriel has high standards for purity and incarnating makes it hard to keep angelic purity. I kind of wish I had gotten into contact with her.

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posted December 21, 2010 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son was born on the 29th day (of this month actually). He is an incredibly sensitive and loving child.

Glaucus, have you analyzed Michael Jackson's chart? He was a Pisces Moon like yourself, and a Virgo. I know you have Virgo rising. I am a Virgo with Pisces rising, and also a very sensitive person.

Just some interesting similarities between you and Michael.

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posted December 21, 2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Doreen Virtue:
The Knights Paladin is an Earth angel realm that represents the protective side of angels. They are fascinated with knights, armor, the Round Table and Arthurian legend and often work in the armed services or police. They make good activists.

All that is definitely me. I grew up very interested in Knights,Arthurian Legends,The Round Table,Swords,Armor,Chivalry. My stepfather even gave me a sword/scabbard,breastplate,helmet,shield toy set for my 10th birthday because of my interests. I even have Arthurian Legend Tarot Deck. I was in the US Navy too,and so I was in the Armed Forces.
I am a neurodiversity advocate/activist.

Asteroids pertaining to angel
Angel - angel
Angelina - little angel
Angelica - angelic
Fay - fay,fairy,otherworldly

Asteroids pertaining to knights:
Knight - knight
Whiteknight - white knight
Lancelot - Knight of the Round Table, foster son of the fay Lady of the Lake, son of King Ban and Elaine
Galahad - Knight of the Round Table, son of Lancelot and Elaine, the Hero of the Holy Grail
Arthur - King of Britain, Round Table, son of King Uther Pendragon and Igraine
Gawain - Knight of the Round Table, nephew of Arthur, son of King Lot and Morgause
Parsifal - Knight of the Round Table, son of King Pellinor, achieved the Holy Grail
Tristan - Knight of the Round Table, son of King Melodias, lover of Isolda
Camelot - home of King Arthur and where Round Table was held
Excalibur - sword of King Arthur, given to him by fay Lady of the Lake

Asteroids - only ptolemaic aspects within 3 degrees


Heliocentric Asteroids - conjunction within 1 degree
Heliocentric Asteroid Nodes - only ptolemaic aspects within 1 degree
Geocentric Asteroid Nodes - only ptolemaic aspects within 1 degree

Robert Blaschke (founder of Earthwalk Astrology School)
looked at conjunctions:
Heliocentric to Geocentric
Sidereal to Tropical
Draconic to Tropical
within 1 degree orb


Heliocentric - Christ Consciousness
Sidereal - Completion of Karma
Tropical - Present Incarnation
Draconic - Ongoing Soul Contract

Helio N - Heliocentric Nodes
Geo NN - Geocentric North Node
Geo SN - Geocentric South Node

Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
conjunct Sidereal Angelina in 4'21 Scorpio
conjunct Parsifal in 2'24 Scorpio
trine Lancelot in 3'13 Pisces
square Helio N Tristan in 5'41 Aquarius/Leo

Moon in 3'11 Pisces
conjunct Lancelot in 3'13 Pisces
conjunct/oppose Helio N Fay in 3'25 Pisces/Virgo
conjunct/oppose Helio N Parsifal in 2'44 Pisces/Virgo
oppose/conjunct Helio N Angel in 2'28 Virgo/Pisces
trine Parsifal in 2'24 Scorpio
sextile Geo NN Knight in 3'20 Capricorn

Asc/Desc in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
trine/sextile Geo SN Tristan in 14'26 Capricorn
square Galahad in 13'17 Gemini R

Draconic Asc in 2'58 Scorpio
conjunct Parsifal in 2'24 Scorpio


MC/IC in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
conjunct/oppose Helio Angel in 10'45 Gemini
conjunct/oppose Helio Gawain in 10'30 Gemini
trine Geo SN Angel in 12'13 Aquarius

Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo
conjunct Geo NN Parsifal in 10'29 Aquarius
Helio N Angelina in 9'51 Aquarius/Leo
Geo SN Angelica in 10'03 Scorpio
Helio N Angelica in 11'22 Taurus/Scorpio

Chart Ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio
conjunct Camelot in 18'23 Scorpio
conjunct Helio Whiteknight in 18'30 Scorpio
conjunct Helio Excalibur in 18'48 Scorpio
trine Geo NN Galahad in 17'27 Cancer
square Arthur in 17'54 Leo
sextile Geo SN Parsifal 18'29 Virgo


Venus in 21'47 Scorpio
sextile Geo NN Angelina in 21'14 Capricorn

Mars in 25'54 Aquarius
trine Gawain in 27'05 Gemini R
trine Angel in 27'42 Gemini R
sextile Knight in 25'00 Aries R

Antivertex/Vertex in 14'58 Leo/Aquarius
conjunct/oppose Geo SN Gawain in 15'36 Leo
conjunct/oppose Geo SN Excalibur in 15'54 Leo
conjunct Helio N Lancelot in 14'00 Leo/Aquarius
conjunct/oppose Geo SN Knight in 14'12 Leo
oppose/conjunct Tristan in 14'21 Aquarius
square Geo NN Angelica in 15'30 Taurus
square Whiteknight in 15'19 Scorpio
square Excalibur in 15'24 Scorpio

East Point/West Point in 8'00 Virgo Pisces
trine/sextile Geo NN Gawain in 8'19 Capricorn
trine/sextile Geo NN Excalibur in 8'44 Capricorn

Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius
sextile Angelica in 9'06 Aquarius

Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R
trine/sextile Helio N Tristan in 5'41 Aquarius/Leo


Uranus in 15'17 Libra
conjunct/oppose Helio N Camelot in 14'45 Libra/Aries
sextile Geo NN Galahad in 15'49 Sagittarius

Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius
trine Geo SN Camelot in 1'47 Aries
square Geo NN Lancelot in 1'31 Virgo
square Geo SN Angelina in 2'02 Virgo

Pluto in 0'51 Libra
square Helio N Galahad in 0'35 Cancer/Capricorn
sextile/trine Helio N Arthur in 0'03 Leo/Aquarius

I also checked Part of Fortune:

Part of Fortune in 15'36 Taurus
conjunct Geo NN Angelica in 15'30 Taurus
oppose Whiteknight in 15'19 Scorpio
oppose Excalibur in 15'24 Scorpio
trine Geo NN Angel in 15'06 Virgo

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Glaucus
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posted December 21, 2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also checked conjunctions to the following archangel stars within 2 degree orb.

Aldebaran
Alpha Taurus
Bull's South Eye
† Behenian Star A Royal Star. The archangel Michael, the Watcher of the East. Eloquence, high honours, integrity, popularity, courage, war mongering, agitation; danger, loss, violent death

Regulus
Alpha Leo
Lion's Heart
† Behenian Star The most Royal Star. Raphael, the Healing Archangel, the Watcher of the North. Nobility, ambition, alertness, great power, status, leadership, sudden downfall, accidents, violence. Said by some to be the most benefic star in the universe.


Antares
Alpha Scorpius
Heart of the Scorpion
† Behenian Star A Royal Star. The Archangel Oriel, the Watcher of the West. Spirit of adventure, obstinacy, injuries to eyes, honours, sudden loss, stubborn, suspicious, violent, several marriages


Fomalhaut
Alpha Pisces Austrinus
A Royal Star. Archangel Gabriel, the Watcher of the South. Congenital birth defects, magic, fame, occult, faith, "Star of Alchemy", addiction, undesirable associates


Moon in 3'11 Pisces
conjunct Fomalhaut in 3'28 Pisces

Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
conjunct Aldebaran in 9'22 Gemini

Imum Coeli in 11'14 Sagittarius
conjunct Antares in 9'22 Sagittarius

In addition to those, I have in In Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) which is the coordinate along with Declination that astronomers use to locate fixed stars. Therefore, it's a valid coordinate.
Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
conjunct Arcturus in 3'35 Scorpio
(0'33 orb)

Alpha Star of Bootes
3rd brightest star in the sky
† Behenian Star Inspiration, riches, fame, honour, popularity, benefits through travel, success through work

Not only do I have 3 personal connections to Archangel stars (Fomalhaut,Aldebaran,Antares), but I also have 3 personal connections to 3 stars associated with starseeds (Aldebaran,Antares,and Arcturus).


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posted December 21, 2010 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarrofVenusGirl:
My son was born on the 29th day (of this month actually). He is an incredibly sensitive and loving child.

Glaucus, have you analyzed Michael Jackson's chart? He was a Pisces Moon like yourself, and a Virgo. I know you have Virgo rising. I am a Virgo with Pisces rising, and also a very sensitive person.

Just some interesting similarities between you and Michael.



Yep. I have checked out Michael Jackson's chart. I knew about his Moon in Pisces.

I am not sure about his birthtime. There is debate about it.

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posted December 21, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting!

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posted December 21, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for persephone33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow- this is all very interesting!

I love Doreen Virtue- I use all of her card decks on my iPhone. They are amazing.

I personally feel that angels may incarnate into a human body because they may truly want to help the human race or help a particular group of people (i.e. a human family) ascend into the higher realms. Or perhaps some angels just want to taste/feel human desire and experience all the material, pleasures earth can provide.

I think IQ advised me that I was a fallen angel (Asteroid Angel conjunct GC-tropical, Jupiter/Chiron/Atlantis conjunct Regulus-draconic, Sun/Mercury conjunct Antares-draconic) but I'm not sure about the "fallen" part. I really believe that I may have incarnated to help out my "soul" family.

I definitely do feel that if you have some links to the Royal stars in your tropical/draconic chart, you may very well be an "earth angel."

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posted December 21, 2010 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Everyone...thanks for all the responses!

I need to take some time to look at all the aspects Glaucus posted...but for now.....


StarrofVenus,

Yupz already checked. IQ & ORBM says the Earth Angel signature is really strong in her chart. Here's the original posting regarding the baby.

GLAUCUS,
["I don't like the idea of correlation of blue eyes and Crystalline. It's like implying that only white people can be Crystalline."]

--YES, exactly what I thought too!! Then what do other sources say about Crystals?? do they mention blue eyes?

Glaucus, it sounds like you were quite repressed during your child hood. How did it manifest for you? Do you remember your child hood clearly? I'm asking because...

The day I started reading, "The Children of Now," I kept seeing 4:11's, 2-3 days in a row. Each day I saw it at least 5x or more, on license plates, time, even posts on LL. When I read the Star Kids chapter, I just had chills/tingles all over my body. I've previously suspected I may be a Starseed through IQ's astrological research material. However I was never sure.
Reading about the classic symptoms of Star kids, or what happens to them when SUPPRESSED just hit me like a ton of bricks. I most definitely relate to most major traits. The time was 4:11 while I was reading Star Kid's chapter. I immediately took out my deck of cards. I asked the angels to let me draw the card, "THE COSMOS," if indeed I am a Star seed. I shuffled, & re-shuffled for almost 10 minutes before picking a card. I did draw THE COSMOS!

It's interesting you were labeled autistic as a child. When I was in elementary school,

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posted December 21, 2010 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what I wrote that suggested that I was quite repressed.

I'd say that my childhood was complex just like my overall self is.

I never said that I was labeled autistic in childhood. I just said that I was autistic-like in early childhood. The reason why I said that was because of my speech/language delays and hypersensitivity/hyper-emotionality.
I was misplaced in a special education classroom with intellectually handicapped children in 1st grade. Of course, many autistics are thought to be intellectually handicapped.

As I got special education therapies that enabled me to develop good speech/language skills, I became Aspergers-like. Of course, that led me to be mainstreamed in a regular classroom. Aspergers is the mild of the austistic spectrum.

My Dyslexia and Dyspraxia were extreme,and so I resembled a low functioning autistic. The weaknesses of my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia remediated,and so I resemble somebody with Aspergers. Of course, I have ADHD but that wasn't diagnosed until 2003. I was never treated for ADHD which tends to co-exist with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and Autistic Spectrum. The symptoms/traits of those neurodivergent conditions have overlap with each other. Co-existence of them is the norm and not the exception.

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posted December 21, 2010 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i believe there can be earth angels.

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posted December 21, 2010 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GLAUCUS,

Yeah sorry, I guess I just assumed, "repression," because you were stuffed into special ed alongside other kids who were intellectually handicapped. Also I experienced something similar & to me that was oppresion. Obviously your a very bright individual & probably didnt need special ed to begin with.

I read in "The children of now," that one child had issues with speech because he resorted to using telepathy with his parents too much which resulted in stunted speech growth. Perhaps you may have been the same?


FIRECRACKER,

I'm glad to hear all opinions with an open mind, as I'm no expert on the subject. I havent made a conclusion for myself yet as I'd still like to explore more. I have read that there are different ranks/heiarchy of Angels. I forget the names of the different types of angels. I do believe that the ones at the top, considered to be "God's right & left hands," like Micheal, Gabriel, Raphael etc, could never incarnate on earth. I've read before it's because they are kind of like gaurdians of the universe & can never leave their post. However I do feel & agree that some other angels are probably able to incarnate on earth. =)

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posted December 21, 2010 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Agent_009:
GLAUCUS,

Yeah sorry, I guess I just assumed, "repression," because you were stuffed into special ed alongside other kids who were intellectually handicapped. Also I experienced something similar & to me that was oppresion. Obviously your a very bright individual & probably didnt need special ed to begin with.

I read in "The children of now," that one child had issues with speech because he resorted to using telepathy with his parents too much which resulted in stunted speech growth. Perhaps you may have been the same?


I did need special education. I was just misplaced in the wrong type of special education classroom in 1st grade. I had intensive speech therapy that greatly helped me. Then after I was found out to have above average intelligence, I was placed in a more appropriate special education classroom in 2nd grade. There were no intellectually handicapped children in the classroom. I got more speech therapy and I was taught to read. The year after that, I was mainstreamed in regular classroom for most of the school and returned to special education classroom in the afternoon for phonics training. Through out my years of special education, I was helped with developing motor skills/coordination and social skills.

auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics training, and motor skills/coordination/occupational therapy helped remediate the weaknesses of my dyslexia and dyspraxia

If it wasn't for special education/therapies, I'd still be low functioning autistic-like.


My speech problems were connected to auditory processing irregularities that included auditory reversals that led to speech reversals and my lack of ability to think in words which resulted in difficulty processing words/language. Coordination/motor skill irregularities were also a factor in my speech irregularities. Difficulties with short term memory,sequence,time,organization,and direction were factors too.

My being primarily a visual,picture thinker and overall rightbrained factored into all of that.


Well..my mom told me that as a baby, I was a good with reading facial expressions from her.

My Mercury-Venus conjunction in Scorpio does conjunct her Moon in Scorpio. My Moon in Pisces is in grand trine to her Jupiter-Ascendant conjunction in Cancer and her Saturn in Scorpio which conjuncts my Sun Scorpio.


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posted December 21, 2010 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of it was connected to ultrasensitivity which often gets labeled as "sensory integration disorder or "sensory processing disorder"


Part One - The Connection between Ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD

By Elizabeth Bogod

Do you sometimes feel that you unusually overreact to everyday situations? For instance, do you find yourself easily frustrated, moved to tears, overwhelmed while others in the same situation seem to be unaffected? Do you think of yourself as a sensitive person? Well, you may have good reason to think so. There is some evidence to back up the fact that people with learning disabilities and/or Attention Deficit Disorder are typically more prone to sensitivity and, for sure, the topic of oversensitivity comes up frequently In IADA support groups.

Being ultra-sensitive is not necessarily a bad thing. Most of us like to think of ourselves as being caring, thoughtful, sensitive folk and LD/ADD hyper-sensitivity may even be a strength, but I will talk about this in a later newsletter.

To start, I want to clarify exactly what is meant by the term “Highly Sensitive Person”. The term “highly sensitive person” was first introduced into pop psychology by Dr. Elaine Aron, author of ““The Highly Sensitive Person - How to Thrive When the World Overwhelms You”. Dr. Aron describing persons with this characteristic as having an extremely sensitive nervous system. In other words, she contends highly sensitive people are biologically more sensitive to external stimuli such as glaring lights, strong odors, and clutter, not just emotional stimuli (Aron, 1999). Most of us only think of the academic difficulties associated with LD and ADD, but if Dr. Aron’s theory holds good, then ultra-sensitivity will likely affect every aspect of our lives including all aspects of daily living, family, and work and school.

It is important to note that being highly sensitive does not mean you have a disorder. It is rather a characteristic or personality trait. Unfortunately, no research exists to link this particular theory to LD or ADD. However, Dr. Jean Ayres, Ph.D., with her concept of sensory integration, does present significant evidence of a link between ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD (Sensory Integration International: FAQ). This theory describes dysfunction in processing information through the senses (touch, movement, smell, taste, vision, and hearing). Some signs of this sensory integration dysfunction include:

Oversensitivity to touch movement, sights, or sounds

Distractibility
Hypo or Hyperactivity
Complaints about how clothes feel - especially tags, socks, and shoes
Difficulty making transitions from one situation to another
Inability to unwind or calm self
Impulsivity
Delays in speech, language, or motor skills
Delays in academic achievement
Frequent Mood Changes

Does any of the above sound familiar to you? Research indicates that up to 70% of children with learning problems experience characteristics of this sort (Sensory Integration International: FAQ). So it is conceivable that LD/ADD adults are more neurologically susceptible to being highly sensitive individuals.

So what does this research mean for you? It means that you can take comfort in knowing that high sensitivity is NOT a personality flaw. It means that it may help you come to terms accuse you of being "too sensitive", "overly emotional", "weak", or "thin-skinned". Comments like these may make you feel bad about yourself or shamed into change but knowing the reasons for the source of your hyper-sensitivity - that it is the result of the way your central nervous system copes with stimuli - may help you to cope with people who criticize you because they do not understand your sensitivities.

More importantly, though, you are beginning to understand a new side of your LD/ADD. In the next News Letter, you will find out about the gifts of being highly sensitive and more…!

Do you have any thoughts or experiences to share on the topic of ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD? Send your comments to our mailing address or email us at iada-victoria@shaw.ca

Resources

Aron, Elaine. The Highly Sensitive Person: How To Thrive When The World Overwhelms You . Broadway Books, 1999.

Sensory Integration International, “Frequently Asked Questions”. Available at: http://www.sensoryint.com/faq.html
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I can relate to the following things that seem to fit with lightworker,Indigo,Crystal,Earth Angel,Starseed.

Part Two - The Affects of Ultra-sensitivity on Our Lives

by Liz Bogod

The previous newsletter discussed the connection between ultra-sensitivity and LD/ADD. We now explore this connection further and take a deeper look at the affects of ultra-sensitivity on our lives.

Having LD/ADD may mean you are more sensitive than the average individual. In fact, many definitions of LD and ADD include “emotional instability” as a defining characteristic. Throughout history, gifted people such as artists, writers and musicians have demonstrated ultra-sensitive characteristics. Given the fact that so many people with LD and/or ADD are, in fact, creatively and intellectually gifted, it follows that they, too, are likely to be highly sensitive individuals.

Dabrowski, a psychiatrist who specializes in giftedness, proposes five areas of extreme sensitivity in gifted individuals which he terms as “over-excitabilities”. You may recognize some of the following areas in yourself:

Psychomotor - Need for extreme physical activity, movement, and sports activity

Hyperactivity, restlessness; inability to quell non-stop inner thought processes (often cause of sleeping problems); highly pronounced gesturing, fast talking

Sensual - Heightened sensory awareness

Over-reaction to sensory input (bad smells, bright lights, loud noises, etc); heightened tactile sensitivity (e.g. to textured fabrics); finds some sensory input intolerable and may need to leave location of stimuli

Imaginational - Thinks and lives in fantasy worlds

The poets, the fantasizers, the “space cadets” of this world; uses metaphorical speech; day dreams; remembers and reacts strongly to night dreams

Intellectual - A heightened response to intellectual questions and problems

Intense focus on particular topic, difficulty diverting away from topic (which may interfere with development of social relationships); often a highly ethical, moral topic requiring sustained analytical thinking abilities; difficulty letting go of the world’s problems without continual questioning

Emotional - Heightened emotional reactions and attachments to people

Emotions experienced in extremes; need to develop strong emotional attachments; self-examination; natural ability for empathy and compassion; often perceives others as not caring enough; susceptibility to depression and anxiety

Sound Familiar? Share your experiences: iada-victoria@shaw.ca

Next Newsletter: The Gifts of Ultra-Sensitivity!

Part Three - The Gifts of Ultra-sensitivity

(In Progress)

Websites and Links

hsperson.com - Elaine Aron’s “Highly Sensitive Person” website to accompany the book.

thomaseldridge.com – The Center for Highly Sensitive People

ultra-sensitive.com - Roger Easterbrook’s site offering support and counseling for Highly Sensitive People as named and defined by the research of Dr. Elaine Aron

sinetwork.org – Sensory Integration Resource Center
http://home.earthlink.net/~sensoryint - Sensory Integration International

sengifted.org/ - S.E.N.G - A non-profit organization supporting the needs of gifted individuals

hoagiesgifted.org/ - Hoagies' Gifted Education Page. Also see Hoagies Sensitivity Page for more about this topic.

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Originally posted by persephone33:
Wow- this is all very interesting!

I personally feel that angels may incarnate into a human body because they may truly want to help the human race or help a particular group of people (i.e. a human family) ascend into the higher realms.



I wondered this sometimes. My birth into this family was late. I came when my father was 50 and my mother 42 and was born just a little later than all of my nephew and nieces. I have had,maybe, some to do with the path that they have gone on which I think would have been more difficult without me. Their parents are very conservative and when they were younger I began introducing them to other possibilities. They turned out to be very very good even though some people were going against them at times. I am seen in this family as the odd one out but one that looks over everyone and helps them out at certain times. I "feel" like an angel guarding over them. Who knows what is true or not.

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I strongly relate to Ronald D. Davis' view about neurodivergent conditions. He recognized the overlapping symptoms/traits and co-existence of the neurodivergent conditions. He believed that they are all connected. That's why he refers to neurodivergents as dyslexics.

The stuff does seem to fit with lightworker,Indigo,Crystal,Earth Angel,Starseed.

He has Dyslexia and Autism himself.
Therefore he knows from firsthand experience.


37 Common Characteristics of Dyslexia http://www.dyslexia.com/library/symptoms.htm

Related Learning Disabilities http://www.dyslexia.com/library/reldis.htm

Correction of Learning Disabilities http://rockypointacademy.com/correction.htm

Disorientation, Confusion, and the Symptoms of A.D.D. http://www.dyslexia.com/library/add.htm


The Davis Theory of Dyslexia


All dyslexics are primarily picture-thinkers: they think through mental or sensory imagery, rather than using words, sentences, or internal dialogue (self-talk) in their minds. Because this method of thinking is subliminal – faster than the person can be aware of – most dyslexics are not aware that this is what they’re doing.

Because dyslexics think in pictures or imagery, they tend to use global logic and reasoning strategies, looking at the ‘big picture’ to understand the world around them. They tend to be very good at strategizing, creative endeavors, hands-on activities, and solving real world objective problems, but tend to be poor with word-based sequential, linear, step-by-step reasoning. When you look at a picture of a dog, you do not move your mind from tail to haunches to legs to shoulders to head to ears to nose to figure out you have a dog. You see all parts at once, and conclude ‘dog’. If most or all of your thinking is in pictures, you would become accustomed to figuring things out by looking at the whole object or situation at once.

Thinking primarily with images, dyslexics also tend to develop very strong imaginations, and to use a picture or feeling based reasoning process to solve problems rather than a verbal one. If they are at first confused (or intrigued), they will mentally turn an object around to look at it from different viewpoints or angles. From this thought process, they develop many unique abilities and talents.
Spiral Go to the www.lesblind.is web site for a visual demonstration of the effects of disorientation. (Link opens new window)

This ability can also be the foundation for a problem. When disoriented, the individual will perceive their own thinking as reality. Most people experience a state of disorientation when looking at an optical illusion, or when exposed to misleading sensory stimuli, such as that created by virtual reality amusement rides. But dyslexics become disoriented on a day-to-day basis; it is their natural mental response to any confusing sensory information - as well as to creative problem-solving.

Dyslexics tend to have difficulty with unreal and symbolic objects, such as letters and numerals. In their effort to comprehend symbols as they would an automobile engine or an engineering diagram, they can become disoriented. This leads to the familiar symptoms of substitutions, omissions, reversals or transpositions in reading or writing letters and words. Disorientation is not limited to visual input; many dyslexics commonly mishear or garble words or the sequence of words in sentences. Their sense of time can seem distorted and their motor coordination can appear delayed or clumsy.
http://www.dyslexia.com/library/davistheory.htm


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BANXMAX,

So what do you suppose you are?? if you had to pick a category or more...if 1 or 2 are just as dominant.
I know from reading "The children of Now," & other sources, that often these kids are a mix. That for some of them it's indeed difficult to categorize them, but usually there are prevalent traits.


GLAUCUS,
["For instance, do you find yourself easily frustrated, moved to tears, overwhelmed while others in the same situation seem to be unaffected?"]

--In general, Meg Blackburn writes how all these children are highly sensitive, except the Star kids. They seem to deal with things differently. They'll get depressed, system shut down, & withdraw deep within...often blanking out memories. This is exactly what happened to me.

I'm curious, were you ever bullied badly as a child?? and how did you deal with that??
Even now when I watch the news on teens committing suicide over bullying...I am amazed how that thought had never crossed my mind. Infact, through Elementary school, I dont recall EVER having cried after getting beat up. All bloodied up (face/clothes), I would quietly wait at the Nurses office for my mom to come with a change of clothes. Perhaps because I never cried or complained, my mom never saw the bullying as serious as it was.

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BANXMAX,

So what do you suppose you are?? if you had to pick a category or more...if 1 or 2 are just as dominant.
I know from reading "The children of Now," & other sources, that often these kids are a mix. That for some of them it's indeed difficult to categorize them, but usually there are prevalent traits.


GLAUCUS,
["For instance, do you find yourself easily frustrated, moved to tears, overwhelmed while others in the same situation seem to be unaffected?"]

--In general, Meg Blackburn writes how all these children are highly sensitive, except the Star kids. They seem to deal with things differently. They'll get depressed, system shut down, & withdraw deep within...often blanking out memories. This is exactly what happened to me.

I'm curious, were you ever bullied badly as a child?? and how did you deal with that??
Even now when I watch the news on teens committing suicide over bullying...I am amazed how that thought had never crossed my mind. Infact, through Elementary school, I dont recall EVER having cried after getting beat up. All bloodied up (face/clothes), I would quietly wait at the Nurses office for my mom to come with a change of clothes. Perhaps because I never cried or complained, my mom never saw the bullying as serious as it was.


If I am anything special, then I have no clue. I feel that I belong with everything. These ideas excite me. I "feel" like I have been around. I embrace all.

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Yeah...I did.......especially in my early childhood/special education years.
Children with special needs tend to be teased and bullied more than average children.

I cried a lot. I was the "crybaby"

As I got older, I fought a lot. I didn't cry. My feelings of hurt led to anger,rage.
I'd yell .....after I started high school, I was cussing people out. I was quick to retort and make a rebuttal.


I was suspended 5 times for fighting
2nd grade, 4th grade, 6th grade,7th grade,and 11th grade.


Losing my temper was a problem.
I believe that it was combination of my impulsivity/short fuse/quick temper and hypersensitivity which are often connected to ADHD. Emotional meltdowns are connected to neurodivergent conditions including especially autism.

It was a problem for me in the navy.


when I think of sensitive, I think of responsive to external stimuli
Many ultrasensitive people can shut down.
This goes especially for autistics. If they are overloaded with sensory information, they can completely shut down.

For me, I can get stressed,confused,flustered,and disoriented.
I can zone out.
Taking a break from my environment, closing my eyes are ways that I deal with overload.
Limiting my eye contact with others also helps.

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Are You An Earth Angel?

by Doreen Virtue, Ph.D.

Author's Note: The information I’m presenting is merely a description of the personality-related, behavioral, and physical characteristics of angels, similar to the type of information found in astrology books. Those who are Earth Angels will relate to the concepts in this book; however, others may misunderstand or even object to the material herein. My intention is to help and to heal, but sometimes such actions create controversy.
Do you feel different from other people, as if you were dropped off on this planet and wonder when someone’s coming to take you home? If so, then you may be an Earth Angel. If you have a passion and talent for healing, teaching, or helping others, yet you yourself have substance-abuse problems, weight issues, relationship challenges, and the like, then you may be an Earth Angel. If you’re highly sensitive and you abhor violence in any form, then you may very well be an Earth Angel!

An Earth Angel is a soul with non-Earthly origins. Although all souls originate from the same Divine source, our environment and personal history often shape our personalities and physical characteristics. For instance, those who spend most of their time surfing at tropical beaches will have different looks and mannerisms than people who hole up in their inner-city offices every day.

Similarly, all of the lives you’ve previously lived have impacted you. And, just as your physical family-of-origin influences you, so does your soul’s family-of-origin shape your looks, behavior, and even your life’s purpose. Again, the inside of everyone is the same: a beautiful, pristine spark of Divine light. However, as a lightworker, your spark of light may have spent time in heavenly realms far from our Earth. Those lifetimes that you’ve logged in the angelic realm, the elemental kingdom, or on other planets have influenced who you are today. Although you inhabit a human body, your soul feels like a traveler in a foreign country—because that is, in essence, what you are.

The term Earth Angels is not to be confused with Incarnated Angels, which is one of the five groups of Earth Angels. By learning about your spiritual realm of origin, you’ll understand more about your personality, behavior, and individual quirks. As I mentioned, this is similar to the way our astrological sun signs group us into meaningful categories.

You may discover that you’re an Incarnated Angel or Elemental; a Starperson whose past lives have been extraterrestrial (ET); a Walk-In; or a Wise One, which is a reincarnated Sorceress, High-Priestess, or Wizard. You’re a seasoned service worker called into action—an Earth Angel. You may have had past lives on Earth as an Incarnated Angel, Elemental, and such, yet you forgot these incarnations, believing that your past lives were human.
My Early Work with Earth Angels

I first accessed information about Earth Angels through my private practice, where I gave angel, mediumship, and psychic readings. My clients usually consisted of lightworkers who were procrastinating with respect to accomplishing their life’s mission.

I’ll never forget the first Earth Angel I identified during a session. As I scanned her shoulders, looking at her aura and spirit guides, I saw a large artery-like pole extending upward from her left shoulder. As I looked to see where the pole was attached, I gasped. There, spinning above her, was a hovering spacecraft! I had never had any interests in UFOs or ETs and actually found the whole subject frightening. I hesitated to tell this woman what I saw, but I’d learned to trust my visions and to faithfully deliver them verbatim to my clients. I’d found that, even if I didn’t understand the visions, my clients usually did.

So I inhaled deeply and blurted out, "I see what may be a spacecraft hovering above you."

"Oh, yes," my client replied matter-of-factly. "It’s been with me my whole life." This floored me. However, I listened with an open mind as she explained that the ship was her ever-present guide and protector, watching over her and giving her information when needed. She reported having visited the ship during dreamtime sojourns.

Soon after, I saw several other clients with this same extraterrestrial connection. I’ve always been one to notice personality and behavioral patterns, so I soon noted that my "Starperson clients" had similar aura colors, facial features, relationship patterns, and life missions.

Discovering the Other Realms

Much of the esoteric information that I receive comes from my own guides and angels, who give me messages while I’m sleeping or during readings or meditations. Through these means, I was told of the other soul-group incarnations to look for in my clients and audience members.

First, I studied the Incarnated Angels. These men and women have angelic faces, heavyset bodies, histories of co-dependent relationships, and are professional helpers. Laurie is a quintessential Incarnated Angel. She’s a very sweet and attractive blonde nurse with a large, curvy figure and a heart-shaped face. After years of trying to help her alcoholic husband get sober, Laurie finally made the painful decision to divorce him. Now she’s searching for a way to transfer her natural healing abilities to a private practice.

I next noticed the group called the Incarnated Elementals. Jayne is a typical member of this clan. With red hair styled in a pixie cut, and a thin, lanky body, Jayne looks like someone who’d wear green elf shoes with curled toes and bell toppings. She’s a professional dog groomer and an avid animal-rights advocate who broke off her engagement because her fiancé wanted to move away from the mountains where she grew up.

"He planned to move to the city," Jayne explained. "I’d shrivel up and die if I didn’t live near nature—especially if I moved to the city, where trees are practically nonexistent."

The next group that I studied were the Walk-Ins. I’d read about Walk-Ins in Ruth Montgomery’s books, but the topic wasn’t on my mind when I began noticing this group of Earth Angels. A Walk-In is usually a highly enlightened soul who’s decided to bypass the usual route of being born and then growing up into an adult body. Instead, the soul negotiates with a human who’s unhappy about living on Earth and who’s seriously contemplating suicide. Through a lengthy procedure (described in Chapter 6 of the book), the souls exchange places.

Shanti was the first person I met who I was pretty certain was a Walk-In. She didn’t remember the soul exchange where her old soul "walked out" and her present soul "walked in"; all she remembers is waking up in the hospital following a car accident. After she recovered physically, her friends and family members frequently remarked, "You’re so different now!" Shanti felt as if she were living in the wrong movie. Nothing seemed to fit—not her job, friends, or home. Even her name, which was Robin at the time, seemed all wrong. Over the next year, she changed her first name, quit her job, and moved to New Mexico. Her family still doesn’t understand, but Shanti now feels like her life makes sense.

For many years, I assumed that these four categories were the only realms from which Earth Angels originated: Incarnated Angels, Elementals, Starpersons, and Walk-Ins. When I’d discuss these categories with my spiritual counseling students, about 80 percent of them acknowledged an affinity to one of the four groups. I’d even have the students gather into groups with their spiritual clan members. I’d see them crying, laughing together, and exclaiming, "Really? You, too? I’m just like that!" as they swapped stories of Earth life from the perspective of their realm.

But there were always some students who couldn’t relate to any of the categories. "What about us humans?" they’d ask.

My son, Grant, finally supplied the answer. He was attending my Angel Therapy Practitioner certification course in North Miami, giving a brief talk to the class about using candles in rituals and incantations. Grant had been studying Wiccan spirituality for some time, and he had a wealth of knowledge to share. At the end of his talk, he turned to the audience and said, "I know what the fifth category of incarnated lightworkers is. . . . I know, because I’m from this category. It’s those of us who are Reincarnated Wizards, High-Priestesses, Witches, Sorcerers, and Sorceresses."

A collective gasp rose from the audience, followed by exclamations of, "Yes! That makes so much sense!" and "That’s what I am!" Grant’s assessment rang true, and it truly struck a chord with the class participants.

Since then, I’ve studied and interviewed many people from this group, whom I now call the Wise Ones. Whenever I lecture or write about the topic, I receive confirmation that this powerful group of lightworkers relates to this category.

Phyllis typifies the members of this group whom I’ve met and interviewed. She has an oval face and large eyes whose faraway stare speaks of someone who sees beyond the physical universe. She wears her hair long, and she has an elegant, almost regal, demeanor. When Phyllis saw the movies The Mists of Avalon, The Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone, she immediately related to the ancient, magical skills that she’d once possessed. Phyllis also knows that she was burned at the stake for being a witch in a prior life.
The Earth Angels’ Vital Mission

Not everyone is an Earth Angel, of course—for this role, God called in the biggest and brightest sparks of light for the transition to the New Age of Peace. Those humans who aren’t Earth Angels are living lives purely for their own growth, rest, or enjoyment. They may seem dense or decidedly unspiritual, yet they’re Divine sparks of life, too. Their lives have simply been dedicated to human, Earthly concerns.

If you’re an Earth Angel, then you’re a powerful lightworker with a legacy of healing and miracles behind and in front of you. You accepted your Divine assignment to come to Earth and spread your teachings and healing energies. How has your assignment been so far? If you’ve had difficulty adjusting to Earthly life, then you’ll probably find answers, comfort, and guidance by remembering your spiritual origin.
http://innerself.com/Spirituality/angel_9262.htm

http://www.loveinsantafe.com/images/vol1issue1/Issue_1_AreYouAnEarthAngel.pdf


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