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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 26, 2010 09:38 AM            

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Does Nessus Retro in the natal chart mainfest differently that Nessus direct.
If so,how?
Thank you very much, dear IQ

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From: Charon
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posted December 26, 2010 09:49 AM            

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I've heard it acts like a magnet screaming.. ABUSE ME! but I could be wrong..

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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 26, 2010 09:51 AM            

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Road and I were talking about this.His sense of Nessus Retro is that it makes SELF abuse.
Nessus direct makes OTHER abuse, to put it in very simple terms.
Thanks (((Mochai))) for your answer!

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From: Charon
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posted December 26, 2010 09:57 AM            

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I'm trying to find the post where I found that. I could be wrong.. searching lindaland now but iq should show up at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if it manifested as self abuse given mine is retrograde and conjunct logos. Someone who is self abusive would make for an easy abuse target and would likely attract that.

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posted December 26, 2010 10:04 AM            

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To talk about Dejaneria ,for a bit.I think it was my saving grace cuz it conjuncts Pluto.
I have only let people go SO far with me.
My mother doesn't count cuz I was a kid.My husband half counts cuz I married my mother

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From: Charon
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posted December 26, 2010 10:38 AM            

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Tell me about it. I have mars sq dejanira exact. Nessus retrograde sq karma (3.5 degrees conj dejanira). Mars sq drakonia. Lucifer opposite saturn and karma conjunct saturn. Kaali/psyche is also square saturn and kaali is square lucifer. Lucifer is square hypno. I must have been evil professionally in a past life .

I've noticed I tend to find people who's dejanira closely conjunct my moon. I don't know why but I don't run into abusive situations too much anymore and I keep running into soulmates (3 in the last year). It's crazy. For some odd reason I can let people in really really deep though. I have this desire to talk about anything to anyone, but as far as developing connections, I rarely feel safe with people.

I know pluto/dejanira afflictions can indicate an abuser so I'm not sure that the pluto/dejanira thing is entirely helpful. Still I can see my chart afflictions as gifts as I've learned a lot through them. I'm hoping one day I can heal people through that knowledge.

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posted December 26, 2010 10:43 AM            

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What are Draconia and Kalli,Mochai?

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From: Charon
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posted December 26, 2010 11:02 AM            

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Kaali is the goddess kalli.. also kundalini activation, and how strongly etc. My kundalini was really bad when kaali was transiting conjunct natal kaali sq saturn but that could be coincidental. I wouldn't be surprised if it deals with left hand path type spirituality or kaaliesque things. Not entirely bad but you can mess up severely on the left hand path. I have kaali conj siva double whammy in synastry and in composite with a soulmate I just met and we have tantric past lives together. I was thinking I had some tantric past lives with my current bf too. My vesta/parvati/ganesa conjuncts my bf's sun and the new soulmate's vesta conjuncts my moon (vesta can be tantric). With my boyfriend I have rudra/kaali opposition in composite as well as a couple other siva/parvati and rudra/kaali aspects (their more destructive alters). My boyfriend also has siva conj sun and ganesa conjunct moon.. so while he's christian now he definetely has strong indian past lives. The new one has ganesa exact conj sun. I've rambled but I've always liked india so I'm pretty sure I have past lives there with these people. Plus the new one just makes me think of tantra which is really awkward because he's married with a newborn. To shorten I've heard siva/rudra parvati/kaali can be a soulmate pair.

Drakonia sq mars I've heard referenced to a predisposition for astral possession and drakonia with reptilian type things.

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posted December 26, 2010 11:12 AM            

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As of now I have not seen Nessus retrograde be the core culprit in Self Abuse. Nessus is retrograde for many months a year, so it will not matter much.
What will matter is the House Position, in addition to the precision of Nessus squares/oppositions.

I must add that I have seen NEMESIS conjunct Sun or Ascendant as a possible cause for Self Abuse.

Nessus sq Sun with Sun in Second House can create Self Abuse. Dejanira in Second House squared by Nessus, Pluto, Mars or Sun can indicate Self Abuse from naivete, or "shooting one's own foot". Sometimes this manifests by doing something very silly and hence getting abused.

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From: Charon
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posted December 26, 2010 11:18 AM            

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Thanks for clearing that up iq.

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