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Midsummer-snow
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posted February 19, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Midsummer-snow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just been reading Linda's Relationship Signs, and in it she talks about the Conjunt/ Sextile/ Trine aspect between Venus and Pluto pertaining Twin Souls and Soul Mates.

I have Venus in Cancer and Pluto in Scorpio. Pluto was in Scorpio spanning about 5 years either side of my birth year, giving all of my relationships thus far the Venus Trine Pluto aspect. Does this mean that every person I've become romantically involved with is/was a Twin Soul or Soul Mate in another life? Seems a bit full-on.

The closest person in my life, and the one whom I love most shares both Venus in Cancer and Pluto in Scorpio with me, making this aspect two-sided; I think of her as my soul sister, yet we do not share a romantic bond. Any thoughts on this?

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anongrl10
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posted February 19, 2012 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This needs to be moved to Soul Unions.

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Midsummer-snow
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posted February 19, 2012 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Midsummer-snow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I'm sorry. I did take a look at the other folders to see where I should submit. I must have missed that one when I skimmed over them.

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posted February 19, 2012 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbs matter. I would only count venus-pluto when it happens with an orb of 2 degrees max.

There are only 2 birthdates for me that I have the double whammy venus-pluto aspects with and with whom I also have excellent synastry aspects and a great composite with, and I have already met 3 people born under them, and am only 22 years old. So I'm sure you will meet the love of your life, too. You can search on this forum using google's "site:linda-goodman.com" search query and you will see that many people have posted about how the double whammy venus-pluto (the aspect happening twice in synastry) is the person they still havent been able to get over, and the one they still cry every night about. My best friend in elementary had the double whammy with me, and then i met someone recently who has her same birth date. He is what i feel is the love of my life, but we can't be together because our families wont allow it because of his race. Either way, I assure you i miss my best friend in elementary a lot, she changed my life and so did he. The other person i met was a girl and i met her at the same time as the guy. It was a camping trip for christians. I have never been religious, my friend was just going and the price was very cheap so I decided to go. But having both of my DW venus-pluto birthdates in the very small group that went with us from our school (only 13 people) made me believe in god a lot more.

I hope I meet someone with that birthdate again, or I dunno. Because I fear I will never meet someone again who I had such breathtaking moments with, and who could make me feel dizzy just from the idea that I might lose him.

This is grupovenus.com's description of the venus-pluto DW, and I find it disturbingly true, as I still find myself crying about him every night, and I still find myself being haunted by the memory of the best friend I lost touch with.


Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto
You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.

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posted February 19, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Midsummer-snow:
I've just been reading Linda's Relationship Signs, and in it she talks about the Conjunt/ Sextile/ Trine aspect between Venus and Pluto pertaining Twin Souls and Soul Mates.

I have Venus in Cancer and Pluto in Scorpio. Pluto was in Scorpio spanning about 5 years either side of my birth year, giving all of my relationships thus far the Venus Trine Pluto aspect. Does this mean that every person I've become romantically involved with is/was a Twin Soul or Soul Mate in another life? Seems a bit full-on.

The closest person in my life, and the one whom I love most shares both Venus in Cancer and Pluto in Scorpio with me, making this aspect two-sided; I think of her as my soul sister, yet we do not share a romantic bond. Any thoughts on this?



Are you male or female? Synastry can explain lots of things, but it CANNOT make anything happen, that's down to you

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

Lastly, by making the effort to post the correct charts AND aspect grid will ensure that you are serious in your enquiries and will guarantee (from me at least) a serious response……if you are simply here to get a freebie or are just curious but can’t be bothered to make the effort to post the correct charts then I won’t bother making an effort to delineate them. In this case you will simply be referred to a website that offers interactive models (like astro.com) for their amusements…

This forum (as all forums) are unpaid, free help and advice from lots of professionals (like myself) and enthusiastic amateurs, who do this for the ‘love of astrology’ and genuinely want members to learn about themselves and partners through this ‘science and art’ we call astrology……

Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics, Free courses + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html
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posted February 19, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

[...] I fear I will never meet someone again who I had such breathtaking moments with, and who could make me feel dizzy just from the idea[...]

You will.

I felt (sometimes feel) the same way before, with similar placements and double whammy stuff (multiple pluto double whammy placements, including the venus/pluto). Mutual chiron placements in the 8th house...etc. Indescribable, can't explain, doesn't make sense. But, one day, it will. Until then, I open myself to the fullness of life.


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posted February 19, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you guys, who have experienced Venus-Pluto aspects in synastry/composite, feel that they can work out? Do these aspects always have to lead to pain, drama and separation? Has anyone managed to say 'yes, it helped us deepen the bond' without any of the usual Plutonian "side effects"?

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posted February 19, 2012 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Midsummer-snow! Welcome to LL

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FireWire
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posted February 19, 2012 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Do you guys, who have experienced Venus-Pluto aspects in synastry/composite, feel that they can work out? Do these aspects always have to lead to pain, drama and separation? Has anyone managed to say 'yes, it helped us deepen the bond' without any of the usual Plutonian "side effects"?

I personally think one important thing is communication. I don't mean 'generic' communication. But open, honest communication about fears, dreams, feelings, heart...etc, the vulnerable parts of each other, and that can be difficult. With these aspects, it is easy to get 'hot and bothered' or 'hot and heavy' really fast, and people just delve into each other. But, in order to have the type of communication I mention in a 'healthy' way, you have to really work on building a foundation and understanding each other. The obsessive and rapid-fire tendencies of these aspects can either help or hinder that process.


I think the moment those things are absent or they are there but they begin to fade, the relationship will fall apart. I think it will fall apart at a very quick rate which would make salvaging it nearly impossible.

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posted February 19, 2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, FireWire.
Very wise response.
So, it's about building foundations, right?
I truly believe in open communication and mutual understanding and I think Pluto here can help. But of course it can also go over the top sexually as the pull is so strong and once the illusion of intimacy is over, you're left with no foundation, naked in the wilderness. Or something like that.
I mean, I'm pretty Plutonian. I know what I'm talking about.

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posted February 19, 2012 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Thank you, FireWire.
Very wise response.
So, it's about building foundations, right?
I truly believe in open communication and mutual understanding and I think Pluto here can help. But of course it can also go over the top sexually as the pull is so strong and once the illusion of intimacy is over, you're left with no foundation, naked in the wilderness. Or something like that.
I mean, I'm pretty Plutonian. I know what I'm talking about.

I think it is about foundations, for sure. I have venus/pluto with a very close friend--completely platonic relationship. But, to be honest with you, it is explosive. If it were not for the fact that we've known each other for over a decade, even it would have ended with disaster. And honestly, it still might, lol.

I think, also, 'plutonic' people take a bit of time to get to know. So, dealing with plutonic energy, it takes time too. Especially because the energy is so volatile, it can really become/transform into anything.

Some people love the allure of the venus/pluto combustive energy. In some cases, I think the energy might make some people not want a foundation, just take it for what it is an move on. With a double whammy aspect depending on other placements, it is VERY possible that this could be the case with one of the two people. Which, the other person may resist building the foundation and wanting the true intimacy.

So many layers to it, honestly. Which is why the communication aspect of it is so important. That way, if the two aren't on the same page, it can be out in the open. Both could desire the intensity but for completely different reasons!

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posted February 19, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I so agree with your account of this!
Ditto to explosive ditto to volatile and ditto to the taking time to get to know!
I think in the case of Pluto if you resist the urge to dive in head-first and take it really really slowly, you get a chance of handling it.
But yeah it's not for the faint of heart. Sigh.
Of course as you say BOTH have to be on the same page. Not easy but doable!

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posted February 19, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireWire:
You will.

I felt (sometimes feel) the same way before, with similar placements and double whammy stuff (multiple pluto double whammy placements, including the venus/pluto). Mutual chiron placements in the 8th house...etc. Indescribable, can't explain, doesn't make sense. But, one day, it will. Until then, I open myself to the fullness of life.


Thanks

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Midsummer-snow
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posted February 20, 2012 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Midsummer-snow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not particularly trying to find my soulmate. I'm sure that'll happen in its own time if it's meant to. It just seemed like a statistical improbability that, throughout my life if I date people within ten years of my own age (very likely), all of them are going to share this Venus/ Pluto aspect with me.

I'm a beginner to astrology, not looking for a "free" interpretation or for someone to look deeply into the synastry of my relationships for me - I'm just tying to make a bit of sense out of it. I mean, technically speaking, I have this aspect with about 90% of my friends and acquaintances.

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posted February 20, 2012 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Midsummer-snow:
I'm not particularly trying to find my soulmate. I'm sure that'll happen in its own time if it's meant to. It just seemed like a statistical improbability that, throughout my life if I date people within ten years of my own age (very likely), all of them are going to share this Venus/ Pluto aspect with me.

I'm a beginner to astrology, not looking for a "free" interpretation or for someone to look deeply into the synastry of my relationships for me - I'm just tying to make a bit of sense out of it. I mean, technically speaking, I have this aspect with about 90% of my friends and acquaintances.


Actually, you don't. With Pluto in synastry you have to use a tight orb. It's advised that with Pluto and other slow moving planets not to go over 3 degrees. Wider orbs are less significant.

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posted February 21, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Do you guys, who have experienced Venus-Pluto aspects in synastry/composite, feel that they can work out? Do these aspects always have to lead to pain, drama and separation? Has anyone managed to say 'yes, it helped us deepen the bond' without any of the usual Plutonian "side effects"?

All depends if they are easy aspects like sextile and trines or hard aspects like square, oppositions...

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posted February 21, 2012 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Midsummer-snow:
I'm not particularly trying to find my soulmate. I'm sure that'll happen in its own time if it's meant to. It just seemed like a statistical improbability that, throughout my life if I date people within ten years of my own age (very likely), all of them are going to share this Venus/ Pluto aspect with me.

I'm a beginner to astrology, not looking for a "free" interpretation or for someone to look deeply into the synastry of my relationships for me - I'm just tying to make a bit of sense out of it. I mean, technically speaking, I have this aspect with about 90% of my friends and acquaintances.


I'm not a great beleiver in *soul mate* relationships.... and welcome to LL

soulmate connections http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/soulmateastrology.html http://www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp http://www.ehow.com/video_4438856_soul-mates-astrology.html
“The heart of an astrological chart according to esoteric astrology are the moon's nodes, or points where the moon intercepts the earth's orbit around the sun. Your nodes diametrically oppose one another. So if your south node is in Capricorn, your north node would be in the opposite sign of Cancer and your soul's path would be moving from masculine, earthy Capricorn energies, into light, feminine Cancer”. http://www.the-soulmate-site.com/astrological-soulmate.html http://thezodiac.com/soulmates2.htm http://www.tamsoft.co.in/soulmates.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/sexualattractionastrology.html

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