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Ami Anne
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posted April 04, 2011 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone,in synastry, has his Chiron on my NN,exact.
What does this mean?
How would this feel ,to him,to me?
What is the dynamics of this in a practical,real world way?

Thank you so much.

PS My NN is the Galactic Center if that makes any difference to the answer so HIS Chiron would be on the Galactic Center,obviously,lol


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Ami Anne
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posted April 04, 2011 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, talk about any examples of someone's planet in an exact conjunction with your NN.
I don't have a sense of this in general.
Thank you !

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Ami Anne
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posted April 04, 2011 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My question is a little hard to understand--
I do not UNDERSTAND how this placement would feel in a practical way to both parties.
Thank you,anyone, for any insights.
I hate when it sinks to the bottom with no replies

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lechien
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posted April 04, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, your NN is cj. my Sun!

well, i'm sure someone more experienced can answer better, but i guess the NN person will feel the positive effect of the other person's planet and use it or be influenced to grow, no?

so let's see now how my Sun helps you grow... like a big green tree in the spring sunshine?

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posted April 04, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lechien
I MEANT to ask you about your guy and the marriage/not marriage situation.
What is happening. I can hijack my own thread

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posted April 04, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for Starborgi

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posted April 04, 2011 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I can hijack my own thread

you most certainly can...

well it's not terrible, but not good... i GUESS the marriage thing is off (he said nothing afterwards...). but above all, we might both become homeless any day and it's very scary, like, REALLY not good. i have to deal with other things. oh wee, it's complicated.

i asked at the Personal Readings forum. i don't hope the hell to overcome me. maybe someone can help me see the future better.

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posted April 05, 2011 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I've been thinking about this configuration and I think something interesting that can't be ignored here is that both Chiron and NN, I guess along with the other outer planets, are most subject to an evolution in how we deal with their placements and configurations within our natal as we get older. I feel like (unless connected to an outer planet by aspect)- inner planets are kind of unmoveable forces within us. But Chiron and the NN in my experience are about evolution. The way I experience my NN and Chiron has changed drastically since I was younger and I expect that to further as the years go on.

I think I might be kind of a synastry chat downer because I really have trouble assimilating anything anymore in isolation. If I were you I would look heavily into what aspects your Chiron natally and what aspects this person's NN natally. I think this will tell you a lot about how these energies might interact and what their connected to in the greater picture of your personal world...I think this will also help make this aspect feel a little more tangible- since you say you're not really feeling it. It's possible you're not connected to your Chiron yet. And maybe this person is not connected to their NN yet, and hanging more on the SN side. If either or both of you haven't come to terms with these bodies yet it's probably easier for it to fall in the background of more "pressing" and present synastry aspects. Like I said, I think Chiron and NN take a long time to come to "fruition" so to speak in our lives. On the Chiron side I think this tends to come from denial and shame about the "wound" aspect of things and on the NN side it comes from comfort. I think in the end both these bodies depend a lot on maturity level.

If you're at a place in your life where your Chiron is still in the "wound" state and not yet in the state of honing wisdom and teaching, I feel like this would be a kind of stalemate aspect, even more so if the person in question is more on the side of their SN. I think a lot of people have brought up Chiron and node aspects on here and other places before as like, "wow this must be a great connection between us" forgetting that both these bodies are SUPER UNCOMFORTABLE to come to terms with.

In my experience with node aspects- it's the person on the other side (the planet, angle, asteroid, whatever) who has the "lessons" or embodies the energy that this person needs to master. Depending on the state of your Chiron- whatever you are really really sensitive about, whatever your "wound" is- is pinpoint on the lesson this person needs to embody. So I would think about sign, house placement, and planets aspecting your natal Chiron and go from there. What I've experienced and read about Chiron seems to point to whatever the wound is with Chiron is whatever we will inevitably become teachers/healers of, maybe like an expert. So once you're conscious of that and honing those things I can see how this might be a very fruitful synastry aspect. You could be really sensitive and helpful with whatever this person needs to learn. Again though, if there are hard aspects or something to this configuration that would affect things.

p.s. - this is a good article on Chiron in synastry, don't know if you've seen it
http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/10/01/synastry-studies-chiron-an-overview/

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posted April 05, 2011 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it depends on how well you're doing your NN, if you're conscious of the fact that you can help this person in those matters (is it in Sadge?) then it would be expanding the other person's world in some sense but being careful not to leave them out there in the cold. Whatever you're teaching them, make sure there's a final lesson, wrap it all up nice and safe otherwise they'll feel out in the middle of a river with no paddle if ya get what I mean. Chiron does not like loose ends, and I think they take the connection pretty seriously since it's a sensitive issue for them.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ,Lonake and Star
I will come back tomorrow and study your responses.
Yes,Lonake, my NN is in Sag. It is conjunct the Galactic Center.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK When I answered someone's question,I started being able to answer my own.
Your NN is where you need to go,your ultimate place if you are to achieve what you were sent to earth to do.
Mine is in Sag in the 2nd house which makes sense.
I suppose HIS wound which will not heal is going in the same direction as my life purpose..
So,his pain and my purpose in life go hand and hand could be an interpretation--right?

This would be true,very true.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is not much written about Chiron in synastry but if you see Chiron coming--Watch out.
It is very powerful.
My mother's sun was on my chiron,exact.

She came to me for healing for her whole life,it seemed.
*I* ,as the child, was supposed to keep her OK.
Her sun came to my "Wounded Healer". I ,still,seem to be the one healing her.
Even when I will not take her bad behavior,she heals by being forced to change.
Maybe,the Chiron person IS the healer of the planet person.
I am thinking that may be true.

Can you make a clear interpretation on who heals whom?

What do you think?

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lechien:
Ami, your NN is cj. my Sun!

well, i'm sure someone more experienced can answer better, but i guess the NN person will feel the positive effect of the other person's planet and use it or be influenced to grow, no?

so let's see now how my Sun helps you grow... like a big green tree in the spring sunshine?


OK,so you are saying the planet person gives to the NN person.
I was thinking the NN person was going in their life purpose direction and the planet person hitched on for the ride
Hmmm---I would love to be able to see if from both people's perspectives!

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posted April 05, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
I guess it depends on how well you're doing your NN, if you're conscious of the fact that you can help this person in those matters (is it in Sadge?) then it would be expanding the other person's world in some sense but being careful not to leave them out there in the cold. Whatever you're teaching them, make sure there's a final lesson, wrap it all up nice and safe otherwise they'll feel out in the middle of a river with no paddle if ya get what I mean. Chiron does not like loose ends, and I think they take the connection pretty seriously since it's a sensitive issue for them.

Yes,in this relationship,*I* broke spiritual barriers by going from a material to a spiritual/iconoclastic place.
I was forced to find God by sheer desperation. This person came along as I went on my spiritual journey which was far away from my childhood roots.
His wounds attached to my Spiritual path.
I guess that could explain the aspect lol

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by staborgi:
So I've been thinking about this configuration and I think something interesting that can't be ignored here is that both Chiron and NN, I guess along with the other outer planets, are most subject to an evolution in how we deal with their placements and configurations within our natal as we get older. I feel like (unless connected to an outer planet by aspect)- inner planets are kind of unmoveable forces within us. But Chiron and the NN in my experience are about evolution. The way I experience my NN and Chiron has changed drastically since I was younger and I expect that to further as the years go on.

I think I might be kind of a synastry chat downer because I really have trouble assimilating anything anymore in isolation. If I were you I would look heavily into what aspects your Chiron natally and what aspects this person's NN natally. I think this will tell you a lot about how these energies might interact and what their connected to in the greater picture of your personal world...I think this will also help make this aspect feel a little more tangible- since you say you're not really feeling it. It's possible you're not connected to your Chiron yet. And maybe this person is not connected to their NN yet, and hanging more on the SN side. If either or both of you haven't come to terms with these bodies yet it's probably easier for it to fall in the background of more "pressing" and present synastry aspects. Like I said, I think Chiron and NN take a long time to come to "fruition" so to speak in our lives. On the Chiron side I think this tends to come from denial and shame about the "wound" aspect of things and on the NN side it comes from comfort. I think in the end both these bodies depend a lot on maturity level.

If you're at a place in your life where your Chiron is still in the "wound" state and not yet in the state of honing wisdom and teaching, I feel like this would be a kind of stalemate aspect, even more so if the person in question is more on the side of their SN. I think a lot of people have brought up Chiron and node aspects on here and other places before as like, "wow this must be a great connection between us" forgetting that both these bodies are SUPER UNCOMFORTABLE to come to terms with.

In my experience with node aspects- it's the person on the other side (the planet, angle, asteroid, whatever) who has the "lessons" or embodies the energy that this person needs to master. Depending on the state of your Chiron- whatever you are really really sensitive about, whatever your "wound" is- is pinpoint on the lesson this person needs to embody. So I would think about sign, house placement, and planets aspecting your natal Chiron and go from there. What I've experienced and read about Chiron seems to point to whatever the wound is with Chiron is whatever we will inevitably become teachers/healers of, maybe like an expert. So once you're conscious of that and honing those things I can see how this might be a very fruitful synastry aspect. You could be really sensitive and helpful with whatever this person needs to learn. Again though, if there are hard aspects or something to this configuration that would affect things.

p.s. - this is a good article on Chiron in synastry, don't know if you've seen it
http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/10/01/synastry-studies-chiron-an-overview/


I know you wrote a lot,Star. I don't mean to be dense but could you please explain this some more

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Ami Anne
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posted April 05, 2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my conclusion( present theory subject to change lol)
The NN person is going someplace/his life purpose.
The planet person hitches a ride.In the process ,the planet person discovers HIS own planet.
The planet person learns the lesson of that planet by following the NN person who is in pursuit of his life purpose.
How does that sound?

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posted April 05, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My theory ,with Chriron, is that the planet person comes to the Chiron person for healing.
The planet person pulls from the Chiron person.
The planet person gains while the Chiron person does not.
The Chiron gives but he does not heal from this aspect.
This would be true for my mother 100%.
I have taught her sooo much ,mainly by my drive to be free of her

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posted April 05, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would it work in one's natal chart if one had a planet ,say Neptune, conjunct one's NN?

I don't know.

I have the GC conjunct my NN.I am not sure how that works,either.
Any thoughts would be appreciated

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posted April 05, 2011 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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