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Ami Anne
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posted December 24, 2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seem drawn to charts of PD's. It may be my background as a counselor. I have studied the charts of sociopaths and players, a little. There is so much to any chart that it is mind boggling. I want to explore the charts of BPD's, too.

However, on the flip side, what gives you a strong sense of self? Thanks so much for any responses!

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posted December 24, 2011 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose a strong Sun would be the starting point.

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posted December 24, 2011 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Mars, Sun conjunct Ascendant & grand trine of Sun, Moon and Jupiter.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 24, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
Sun conjunct Mars, Sun conjunct Ascendant & grand trine of Sun, Moon and Jupiter.

Great answers! Thank you

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posted December 24, 2011 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Popcorn has Sun conj ASC. I admire her sense of self so much. It has a quiet confidence.
Conversely, would hard things "done" to the Sun have the opposite effect? Would Neptune or Saturn conj the Sun have the opposite effect?

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posted December 24, 2011 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I suppose what builds up the Sun would build the self esteem. I wonder if Narcissus conjunct the Sun would give good self esteem? I know this is an asteroid question, but it seems Nicki and Mert, who have this, have a strong sense of self.

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posted December 24, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great to know i was mentioned

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posted December 24, 2011 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
great to know i was mentioned



You seem to have a good sense of self

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posted December 24, 2011 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
course i do

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted December 24, 2011 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So, I suppose what builds up the Sun would build the self esteem. I wonder if Narcissus conjunct the Sun would give good self esteem? I know this is an asteroid question, but it seems Nicki and Mert, who have this, have a strong sense of self.


Interesting!

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posted December 24, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
course i do



LOL Love you! xxx

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posted December 24, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

LOL Love you! xxx


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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted December 24, 2011 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
However, on the flip side, what gives you a strong sense of self?

Fixed Sign emphasis, esp Sun/Moon/ASC. Or the Sun/Pluto/Uranus on an angle. Sun/Pluto/Uranus hard aspects.

Hard Neptune/Saturn is the reverse.

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posted December 24, 2011 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lonake I have several of these. I have a Scorpio ASc and Pluto conj the MC. I have Pluto sextile mercury and the Sun. Would you call these stability aspects?

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posted December 24, 2011 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Not so much the sextile, but the Pluto and Scorpio, yes. I'd have to look back at your chart to tell you specifics, but it was evident w.the house rulerships that the family situation worked to destabilize you, and also on the other hand that you want an unconventional home set-up, it was like the home situation threw you up in the air but that's where you need to be to get the insights. I remember looking at your chart thinking that at some point in your life it must have felt like you were (metaphorically speaking) exploded out into the universe, sort of left flailing out there looking for something to grab hold of, trying to find your way back down to earth but with the Saturn Scorp ruled 3rd conj the ASC, coming back down meant that you needed everything in place, you want everything squared away (so Saturn says) before you can get back to business of re-building. Like looking down from the sky and seeing all these parts that are at your disposal, you have to fit them together to build a structure to make you feel safe again, like a new skin almost. Anyway, that's the feeling I got from the chart.

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posted December 24, 2011 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ Not so much the sextile, but the Pluto and Scorpio, yes. I'd have to look back at your chart to tell you specifics, but it was evident w.the house rulerships that the family situation worked to destabilize you, and also on the other hand that you want an unconventional home set-up, it was like the home situation threw you up in the air but that's where you need to be to get the insights. I remember looking at your chart thinking that at some point in your life it must have felt like you were (metaphorically speaking) exploded out into the universe, sort of left flailing out there looking for something to grab hold of, trying to find your way back down to earth but with the Saturn Scorp ruled 3rd conj the ASC, coming back down meant that you needed everything in place, you want everything squared away (so Saturn says) before you can get back to business of re-building. Like looking down from the sky and seeing all these parts that are at your disposal, you have to fit them together to build a structure to make you feel safe again, like a new skin almost. Anyway, that's the feeling I got from the chart.


Thanks Lonake Thank God, I had some stabilizing aspects. Each was a gift of immeasurable proportions to which I thank God.


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posted December 24, 2011 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by strong sense of the self?? bc I just saw NickiG video and she seems like an extremely sweet caring big hear-ted person just based on her voice and how she carries herself.

So do you mean someone whose personality you can get a good grasp off very quickly??

Pls let me know if this is what you mean bc when I read the post I was thinking you meant someone really really sure of themselves, confident.

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posted December 24, 2011 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thx amelia =^.^=

i think what she means is has a hold of themself thoroughly because first impressions can be misleading

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted December 24, 2011 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I was thinking you meant someone really really sure of themselves, confident.


This is how I interpret strong sense of self as well.

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posted December 24, 2011 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
thx amelia =^.^=

i think what she means is has a hold of themself thoroughly because first impressions can be misleading



In light of this clarification I don't think asteriod Narcissus conjunct Sun would give a strong sense of self, I would think it would make you cocky or overconfident or perhaps just confident.

Husband has Narcissus sesquisquare jupiter and He is a bit narcissistic intellectually, this has toned down significantly bc I bring him down to earth LOL but is still there. My venus in leo and mars in leo doesn't mind a little bit of cockiness and thinks it hot but my sun in virgo and moon in pisces like humbleness and for people to acknowledge others gifts and value what each person brings to the table.


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posted December 24, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:

Ohh.......with that definition I complete understand why thinks you have a strong sense of self .

In light of this clarification I don't think asteriod Narcissus conjunct Sun would give a strong sense of self, I would think it would make you cocky or overconfident.


lol

my narcisus conjuncts my sun by like 1 degree...can you tell? lo

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted December 24, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol

my narcisus conjuncts my sun by like 1 degree...can you tell? lo


I feel you have a combo of water and air.

From the video I couldn't see your Narcissus side at all...

Husband is really nice and likeable but once you get to know him you see that side to him more but only now and then..he isnt like that 24/7 but is Clearly a part of him.

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posted December 24, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I feel you have a combo of water and air.

From the video I couldn't see your Narcissus side at all...

Husband is really nice and likeable but once you get to know him you see that side to him more but only now and then..he isnt like that 24/7 but is Clearly a part of him.


i have a strong water and air combo

i do have my narcissus moments...like "wtf? what about me??"

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted December 24, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you experience this asteroid in your personality?

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posted December 24, 2011 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
How do you experience this asteroid in your personality?

hm...sometimes i feel more self centered than what just my leo moon rules...and it shockes me sometimes to the point where i try to be as selfless and giving as i can...yet somehow i still get accused as being selfish and self centered and the whole deal by my mom

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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