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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 07, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your chiron placement is supposed to be about what area of life your personality is motivated towards from past wounds.

How does your Chiron manifest? Whats the placement and what are you good at?

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posted March 07, 2012 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When confused,turn to mythology; go from there to astrology material and your experiences and observations
Chiron is teacher and one of kind factor ( Chiron is very different from other centaurs ) and as long as you're willing to learn,all will be well.

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posted March 07, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is the house in which you will have a lot of sorrow.

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posted March 07, 2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the Houses
By amiann | Published: December 29, 2011 |

Chiron is more House dependent than sign dependent. As such, I will write about Chiron in the Houses. Please, comment, about your house placement, if you care to.

Chiron in the 1st house– This placement seems to indicate childhood bullying, in many, many cases. Chiron in the 1st house would be a outer manifestation of Chiron. It would be akin to wearing Chiron on your sleeve, for all the world to see. The Chiron wound could be physical such as a scar or deformity.It could be emotional such as emotional illness. Whatever it is, it is visible to others. As such, this is one of the hardest Chiron placements.

Chiron in the 2nd house–The 2nd house rules the material part of life and all that that entails such as a house in which to live and money with which to buy food and other needed items. The 2nd house rules the general feeling of security in life because you have what you need and you are not afraid you will lose it, at any moment. As such, if Chiron is here, you ARE afraid that your material security could be lost, at a moments notice. You carry this vague fear with you, at all times, even if you are living in the lap of luxury.The Chiron wound is internal. It does not heal if life circumstances change. It may be mitigated, but not healed completely, as is the nature of the myth.

Chiron in the 3rd house–The 3rd house rules communication. One must be able to communicate, with ease, if one is to thrive in this world. The 3rd house is general communication in speaking and writing rather than an intellectual communication of deep,philosophical and spiritual issues as is the domain of the 9th house. People with Chiron in the 3rd in communication. They may be afraid to speak. They may have been demeaned when they tried to speak. They may have been in a situation where they were “shouting” their truth with no one to hear, to understand what they were saying. They may have been the “voiceless”. I have seen this manifestation of Chiron in the 3rd.

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Chiron in the 4th house–the 4th house rules early childhood. As such, Chiron, here, would indicate a painful childhood. This is one of the harder Chiron placements, as our childhood shapes us as water is shaped by a container. We may carry deep pain, all or lives, from situations inflicted on us, as children. I think this would be the case, as the Chiron wound does not heal. However, this placement may have a unique ability to help abused and neglected children. This placement may be a foster parent or just someone to whom children can unburden themselves.

Chiron in the 5th house–the 5th house rules play, creativity, self expression of one’s basic identity, short romances, fun and one’s sense of humor. Chiron, here, may make a person afraid to risk self expression. Creativity may be hard, as one feels insecure to step out and be seen. This house rules the child who dances and sings with the joy of simply being, as children will do. This sign rules the person who will get in to the center of the room , with a lampshade on his head, in the middle of a party. With Chiron, here, one may be found in the corner. One may desire to shout his special song to the world, but shrinks back. As such, this person has a unique understanding that may help others who find themselves in the same position. This Chiron may be a music teacher, but not a performer. This placement may be an acting coach, but not an actor. This Chiron may watch on the sidelines, but encourage others to shine. That would embody the nature of the usage of the Chiron wound.

Chiron in the 6th house–The 6th house rules work of a practical service nature. It, also, rules health. Chiron in the 6th may be a person who desires to serve others, but never seems to find satisfaction. Perhaps, their choice of work is a continual source of pain.Perhaps, they work in a field which does not suit them, which drains their life energy, but they are stuck. Perhaps health issues plague them. One friend with Chiron in the 6th, had two children with a rare genetic disorder of which he and his wife were unaware. He and she were, both, called upon to donate organs to their child. This placement is one of the harder ones

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Chiron in the 7th house–the 7th house rules marriage and committed partnerships of a long term nature. The 7th house involves all things that one desires in marriage such as loyalty, devotion, fidelity and life partnership.As such, this Chiron may never have the pleasures of this kind of union. If this Chiron does get married, his partner may betray him or likewise break his heart and destroy his dreams. This Chiron may be called upon to help other couples as a marriage counselor or a pastor while he bears the wound with which he heals others.

Chiron in the 8th house–the 8th house rules all taboo subjects.If you cannot talk about it at a cocktail party, the 8th house rules it. This includes the deepest passions of the human, both emotional and sexual.The 8th house is the one must call forward when one is in therapy. It rules the id, the part of us which will control us, if we try to push it in to the attic. As such, Chiron in the 8th may not be able to face these parts of himself and may suffer physical and emotional illness, as a result. On the other hand, he may be plagued by passions running wild such that he cannot stop them. He may have addictions and obsessions which he cannot control, but may be called upon to help others as an addiction counselor or a therapist.

Chiron in the 9th–the 9th house rules higher thought. It is opposite the 3rd house which rules chatty communication. The 9th rules intellectual communication. It rules higher education, while the 3rd house rules elementary education. The 9th house rules spiritual bodies of thought. The 9th house asks the most yearning questions of the human such as “Why am I here?” When a person has a full 9th house, the person is a seeker after Life Truths. On the other hand, when Chiron is here, a person may never find these answers, although they may search incessantly. The 9th house Chiron may be a religion professor or a pastor who guides others to the very answers which elude him.

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posted March 07, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 10th–the 10th house rules career and society. It is opposite the 4th house which rules early childhood. One must leave childhood and the 4th house and learn to make one’s way in the 10th house arena. The 10th house rules one’s reputation.It rules one’s general acceptance or lack of it, in society. As such, Chiron, here, may make one feel cast out from others. Perhaps, one does not have the social status one so, fervently, desires.Perhaps, one was poor as a child and feels one can never fit in with a “higher” level of social peers. Perhaps, one makes a stupid mistake and loses one’s reputaion. Perhaps, one’s career never takes off even though one tries, mightily. This Chiron may help others succeed and realize their social dreams,as one stands in the baclground. Perhaps, one is a worker behind the scenes for a person who sits in the limelight, effortlessly, as one watches.

Chiron in the 11th–the 11th house rules groups, hopes and dreams and global giving, such as in charity. The 11th house is a forward thinking house ruled by Aquarius. A person with a full 11th house wants to help others who are far away such as by doing work in the Peace Corps or Doctors without Borders. The strongly 11th house person has a passion to make a difference to those who are far from his own sphere of life. It seems to be a deep seated passion, as in my friend Rod from Chile. Hopes and dreams are ruled by this house, too, as in the hopes of a child, before children learn that hope is often, fruitless. As such, a person with an 11th house Chiron may find that his dreams are out of reach and he must settle for mediocrity instead of his aspirations. Perhaps, he will mentor someone who does go to faraway places and perform wonderful deeds, as he sits behind, as a support structure.

Chiron in the 12th house—the 12th house is the hardest house placement, bar none. This will, always, be the case, no matter which planet.The 12th house is the door to the next dimension. The next dimension is that of psychic phenomena, creativity and mystical experience. It,also, rules drugs and addictions, as these take us out of the real world, albeit in a harmful way. As such, the person with a 12th house Chiron may find it hard to live on the earth. He may want to escape the earth’s hardships through addictions. He may fight addictions but never seem to overcome. He may be ultra sensitive in the Micheal Jackson vein. The earth may take its toll on him.People who have been through great trouble have great depth, not found in those who have not. As such, this Chiron may comfort those who the rest of the world has pushed to the sidelines such as the handicapped person or the prisoner.

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posted March 07, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me what you think DS

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posted March 07, 2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am a Chiron in the 5th house with Libra. My sun conjucts Chiron. I'm pretty unique in the sense that I have let go of most ego barriers and don't care for superficial antics. Like being vain/rude/egotistic/hurt. If someone publicly offends me, I don't care. I don't feel the need to defend my self/explain myself, which may be part of the position/aspect.
I noticed that I'm motivated towards learning about a lot of different tv shows, movies, games, instruments, books, etc. I want to 'know' whats up. To have a lot of hobbies, but they're looknig way deep into it saying that I have this wounded sense of self, etc? No. I'm pretty sure I'm fine. lol
I guess my chiron placing, and what my personalityvis motivated towards is, "not being boring".

When asked about what I do for fun, I can't easily give them a description. I used to be pretty bland, just played soccer, sang, went to disney world with my family, made videos with my friends, not much. I feel like that is nothing, and I'm so amazing, the list should never end. But in reality, I have like three things to say for myself and I find that ridiculous. I believe my chiron in the 5th might be the reason why I'm so interested in educating myself in a variety of activities/hobbies.
I want to be multitalented. I want to play instruments, sports, have read books, traveled places, know languages, etc.

I'm motivated to have a lot of hobbies, which is what in the most literal of the sense the description & most proven influence.

Astrology did pin-point my chiron in the 5th house being excellent with relationship advice. I can watch a couple for a few minutes and size it up, giving the best advice ever. Or maybe this was just an easy case. I recently watched a video of this girl doing the bubble gum challenge with her trashy boyfriend and his pig-like friends and how she lets him disrespect and use her. She shuts up when he interrupts her, etc.. .It's just really bad. I literally left this girl like 10 comments, they're pending approval now, but they're telling her why she shouldn't marry him. lol. http://www.youtube.com/user/tabs24x7Official


TO AMI:

That's pretty much me.. I hate shining. I used to be very aware of this placement, and wanted to bring that out. I knew that with such a large stellium of planets in the 5th house, that gosh golly, I should force myself to shine. That should be my objective. I did it for a while, it was fun, but then realized it was fake. I didn't like it. I'm practically invisible to most people, if i'm being myself. But maybe thats because I'm shy and have social anxiety. I was blaming it on my progressed saturn square ascendant for not expressing myself and feeling uncomfortable when showing off my talents... But I guess I can now easily say that is my chironi n the 5th house! And that my saturn square ascemdamt progressed probably just makes me a little more cautious when meeting new people.

I do feel good when helping others shine though.... That is literally what I do. lol
I make people stand out and feel good about what they do. But for me, I don't have any one thing in particular to stick out for. That's why I'm TRYING to .. lol.

But wow, congrats.
That was spot on.

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posted March 07, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you still here, Ami Anne, I want you to see this!


This guy that I used to date ... has chiron in the 11th house, and he is ALL action. all moves. All what I wish to be but am not entirely. Thats why to this day I want to date someone who has chiron in the 11th, so we can help eachother out. But if you watch this video, you can see how creative he is/talented.
This video of him is old and he's being silly. But he has just ease with expressing himself and I'm like a cold robot. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTkzmYLR1X4

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posted March 07, 2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks DS
Do you have a 12th House Sun. What you are describing sounds like a 12th house Sun.
It could be your Sun touching Saturn too.
I will watch. Thanks!

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posted March 07, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is cute! He does express himself well but the video made me car sick

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posted March 07, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chiron in the sixth, and i am always a little unhappy in the jobs i have done.

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posted March 07, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks DS
Do you have a 12th House Sun. What you are describing sounds like a 12th house Sun.
It could be your Sun touching Saturn too.
I will watch. Thanks!



lol. It made you car sick!! Haha. Agreed. He is all over the place!

Thanks to you too!
Do you mean sun touching chiron?
Or saturn square ascendant in progressed?
Could be north node in the 5th..


I have sun in the 5th house, actually. (Maybe I'm just not very creative, so I don't stand out. lol Jk.)

I'm best friends with an Aries whose chart time we're unsure of. She could either be a sun in the 12th house or sun in the 1st house. If she is a sun in the 12th house, then that could be why I've picked up so many personality traits from her. I attribute this to my chiron in the 5th; Maybe I was observing her behavior and started copying it and behaved like her? (?) I'm not sure what the reason is.

Here's my chart: http://tinypic.com/r/29zzjbo/5

Ami, can I see your chart?

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posted March 07, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
When confused,turn to mythology; go from there to astrology material and your experiences and observations
Chiron is teacher and one of kind factor ( Chiron is very different from other centaurs ) and as long as you're willing to learn,all will be well.

Lol. Yup. Good advice.

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Chiron links http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false
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Chiron in the 1st house– This placement seems to indicate childhood bullying, in many, many cases. Chiron in the 1st house would be a outer manifestation of Chiron. It would be akin to wearing Chiron on your sleeve, for all the world to see. The Chiron wound could be physical such as a scar or deformity.It could be emotional such as emotional illness. Whatever it is, it is visible to others. As such, this is one of the hardest Chiron placements.

Absolutely, NONE of this fits for me with chiron in 1st.... It's the mark of a healer -- which I am

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
That's pretty much me.. I hate shining. I used to be very aware of this placement, and wanted to bring that out. I knew that with such a large stellium of planets in the 5th house, that gosh golly, I should force myself to shine. That should be my objective. I did it for a while, it was fun, but then realized it was fake. I didn't like it. I'm practically invisible to most people, if i'm being myself. But maybe thats because I'm shy and have social anxiety. I was blaming it on my progressed saturn square ascendant for not expressing myself and feeling uncomfortable when showing off my talents... But I guess I can now easily say that is my chironi n the 5th house! And that my saturn square ascemdamt progressed probably just makes me a little more cautious when meeting new people.

I do feel good when helping others shine though.... That is literally what I do. lol
I make people stand out and feel good about what they do. But for me, I don't have any one thing in particular to stick out for. That's why I'm TRYING to .. lol.

But wow, congrats.
That was spot on.


chiron doesn't SHOW what your are good at, it shows where you are wounded and can heal yourself and others....

When looking for strengths in a natal chart, look at sun, this is modified by sign it's in, where it functions = house and how it functions are aspects.

Perhaps learn the basics properly would be my advice...

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

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Chiron retrogade in natal is better than direct. You magnetize healing, you magnetize healers or situations will make you heal. But also you can have create more problems as you draw chiron to yourself. Also since energies reserved you cant express chiron easily. You may not recognize what your wounds are exactly

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Chiron retrogade in natal is better than direct. You magnetize healing, you magnetize healers or situations will make you heal. But also you can have create more problems as you draw chiron to yourself. Also since energies reserved you cant express chiron easily. You may not recognize what your wounds are exactly


You are describing Retro planet perfectly. I would not like a Retro Chiron though Mert if I could choose lol

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posted March 07, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure DS
I will get my chart from PR. I want to see how close my Venus is to Jupiter anyway.I have been meaning to do it

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posted March 07, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus is almost 8 degrees away--a few seconds short so it would be unaspected by most astrologers I have spoken to about unaspected planets.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

You are describing Retro planet perfectly. I would not like a Retro Chiron though Mert if I could choose lol



I got mine retro in 5th house. Maybe this retro explains why my 5th house matters are not that bad.

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You know Mert. You are my dear friend so I know you well.I think Chiron Retro in the 5th makes you have a deep conscience about 5th House matters.I don't think you can just do things for fun and not consider the consequences so to speak lol

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Ami Anne -- you've gained my respect for past posts, so I want to ask a question about this one. I've read that while Chiron shows our sorrows/wounds in life, the house it's in may also be indicative of a relentless drive to attain what we feel so deprived of. Do you concur with this?

I tend to find this is true. I have Chiron in Leo in the 10th House and have always been motivated to succeed before all others, lead the pack, be known far and wide as a success story. As a kid, I was a prototypical overachiever and was known for my impeccable grades and singing/performing talents. Always lead in the school plays and somewhat of a classical music prodigy locally. I am described by those in the know of astrology as being very Leo. I know Beyonce also has this placement, so I can't help but disagree with the notion that a Chiron in 10th would necessarily watch as someone they assist shines brighter than they ever could.

Let me know your thoughts!

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