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Topic: What astrological placements/aspects would explain someone wanting to do this?
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8487 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 04:59 AM
In my 23 years on this earth i have met a few people who wanted to just pack up and move to a new country/state and "start fresh". Personally this has never made sense to me, probably because im super fixed. Lol i mean i guess i could understand it if you were a fugitive from the law or your reputation was shot to hell. But what would cause someone to do this when their life is fairly normal? One of my friends informed me the other day that he is thinking about "moving to another state for a new start". I personally would hate to just randomly move on the spur of the moment. I like the familiarity of going into a gas station and the clerk knowing what smokes im going to buy without me opening my mouth or going into a restaurant and the waitress already knows what drink im getting. Not to mention the familiarity of your family and friends. Im all for travel and new experiences and meeting new people but i dont understand someone basically throwing everything that they know down the tubes and moving to a foreign place where they are a nobody. What astrological placements or aspects would encourage this type of behavior? IP: Logged |
pocaloca Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:08 AM
in my opinion Jupiter in the 9th house usually indicates a person who would live abroad, in the foreign country...I saw many examples and it shows always to be true..I have jupiter in 9th as well and yes, I was moving all my life.IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3548 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 05:25 AM
I've done this!My bets are on - Mercury square Uranus.. or Mercury conj Jupiter or Jupiter square Saturn... or my Gemini AC.. I don't like familiarity at all. It bores the crap out of me.I just want change for the sake of change. I don't have much fixed energy. IP: Logged |
Jo B Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 11, 2014 05:26 AM
I'm British but have spent the past two years in California, essentially uprooted I guess (although going home in two weeks). I think it's definitely some placement of planets in the 9th house. I have my North node in the 9th house (in Gemini) and I think this explains my need to get away from my place of birth to experience a change of setting, attitude and get a fresh perspective. I also spent a lot of time in Egypt (was once married to an Egyptian there) and would also like to spend some time in the Far East if possible in the future. I think I've got the travel bug out of my system now and desperately want to put down roots. Sometimes people need to break loose a bit to find out what they REALLY want. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8487 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 05:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: I've done this!My bets are on - Mercury square Uranus.. or Mercury conj Jupiter or Jupiter square Saturn... or my Gemini AC.. I don't like familiarity at all. It bores the crap out of me.I just want change for the sake of change. I don't have much fixed energy.
But you can still experience new things and have familiarity at the same time. I love to travel and meet new people, but i have no desire to up and move. Im accustomed to my surroundings, the climate, the local people, and i know where everything is. If i get bored i can try a new restaurant or something or go on vacation to another place for a week or so. But ditching your life completely? Seems a little drastic to me. First of all, you dont know anybody when you move to a new place and chances are it will be hard to make new friends even if you try. Because chances are the people in your new location already have their social circles and routine established. As a general rule people are set in their ways. It just seems like it would make things awful difficult, alot more difficult than it has to be. IP: Logged |
Jo B Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 11, 2014 05:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: First of all, you dont know anybody when you move to a new place and chances are it will be hard to make new friends even if you try. Because chances are the people in your new location already have their social circles and routine established. As a general rule people are set in their ways.
Absolutely disagree. People are NOT set in their ways, often you find they are welcoming to a person who has had the guts to move to a new place - ALONE - with a positive outlook. I made new friends easily away from home (and I wouldn't even class myself as a social 'butterfly'), mostly because we had joint interests (ie music in my case). My sister did the same too when she was 29, just suddenly upped and moved to Australia (travelled a bit in Thailand first though), and ended up getting a job there which looked good on her CV. Showed she had spirit and drive. Travel can be an enriching experience if you approach it in a positive way. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8487 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 06:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jo B: Absolutely disagree. People are NOT set in their ways, often you find they are welcoming to a person who has had the guts to move to a new place - ALONE - with a positive outlook. I made new friends easily away from home (and I wouldn't even class myself as a social 'butterfly'), mostly because we had joint interests (ie music in my case). My sister did the same too when she was 29, just suddenly upped and moved to Australia (travelled a bit in Thailand first though), and ended up getting a job there which looked good on her CV. Showed she had spirit and drive. Travel can be an enriching experience if you approach it in a positive way.
You may make "friends" but close friends? In most cases, probably not. From what I have seen most people keep the same tight social circles from atleast middle school onwards. Personally i have kept the same close friends since elementary school and its not been because i wanted it to be that way. I have met a multitude of people since then who i get along with at school and all the places i have worked, but i haven't really picked up any close friends along the way. I have met a lot of cool guys at work who i have shared tons of laughs with and get along great with but chances are at the end of the day they are going to hang out with their inner circle of close friends they have known forever and im going to do the same. Which is fine and dandy... But when you move to a completely new location you dont have that option.
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 1485 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 06:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by pocaloca: in my opinion Jupiter in the 9th house usually indicates a person who would live abroad, in the foreign country...I saw many examples and it shows always to be true..I have jupiter in 9th as well and yes, I was moving all my life.
Yep! I also have Jupiter in 9H and moved to US from Europe when I was 20. Now I'm 37 and moving back to Europe. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1485 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 06:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by pocaloca: in my opinion Jupiter in the 9th house usually indicates a person who would live abroad, in the foreign country...I saw many examples and it shows always to be true..I have jupiter in 9th as well and yes, I was moving all my life.
Yep! I also have Jupiter in 9H and moved to US from Europe when I was 20. Now I'm 37 and moving back to Europe. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8487 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 06:21 AM
IDk.. I guess it all depends on how you define friendship.. Personally i define friendship as having trust, looking out for one another, and actually hanging out on a regular basis. I remember when i moved to my current town in 6th grade everyone liked me and thought i was a funny guy but i didnt really develop any close friendships. I would walk down the hall and everyone would see me and say "sup (insert name)" . A few people would even remark "wow, you are becoming more and more popular". And i was thinking "hmmm so because people know my first name and speak to me in the hall or at lunch im popular?" I dont see that as friendship. Sure you can meet "cool" people but you dont meet true friends everyday, thats rare. IP: Logged |
yesterdayagain Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 11, 2014 06:24 AM
I have lived in 4 countries in my life, and currently deciding whether to move to another. My sun and pluto sits in the 9th house. The things you said you like about the familiarity doesn't have an ounce of appeal for me. IP: Logged |
Jo B Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 11, 2014 06:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: You may make "friends" but close friends? In most cases, probably not.
I think you're really narrowing your options when you think like that. How on earth are you going to grow as an individual and expand your mind if you don't embrace new friendships, from all over, and maybe lose a little of the suspicious attitude towards strangers? IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1377 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 06:40 AM
merc/uranus ? Heh I have the conjunction I've lived in a few different countries n quite like (liked?) moving to different cities, suburbs n such... Sometimes I moved out of necessity, sometimes just on the "spur of moment". When I lived with my parents, they moved a lot too, so there's that...What appeals to me is exactly the idea of going to a new place where I'm a "nobody". I think this is also why I liked to jump from job to job. I guess I do all of that just simply because I don't "feel strongly" about those things. The lack of attachment makes it easy to "move on". I kinda need a reason to stay. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8487 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 06:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jo B: [QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91: [B] You may make "friends" but close friends? In most cases, probably not. I think you're really narrowing your options when you think like that. How on earth are you going to grow as an individual and expand your mind if you don't embrace new friendships, from all over, and maybe lose a little of the suspicious attitude towards strangers?
Its not me being narrow minded, i am always open to meeting new friends. Its just i define friendship a little differently than most people. To me a friend is someone who would let you crash on their couch if you didnt have another place to go. Not the guy you eat lunch with at work and might ocassionaly go to the club or bar with on a friday night. You can find the second guy anywhere but not the true blue loyal friend you can trust. IP: Logged |
Jo B Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted February 11, 2014 06:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy:
What appeals to me is exactly the idea of going to a new place where I'm a "nobody" - it's really exciting.
Ha, same here. It can also be character-building. quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Its not me being narrow minded, i am always open to meeting new friends. Its just i define friendship a little differently than most people.
I didn't say you were being narrow minded, I said you were narrowing your options. Yes one would think you could trust your pals you've known for years, but people do change, friendships you thought were solid can fall by the wayside unexpectedly, that good buddy you thought you trusted implicitly could betray you. I'm still in touch with friends from my youth, and I'm sure I will be for the rest of my life it's come this far, but I've had just as meaningful friendships with people I've met later in life in a completely different location. Sometimes people just feel compelled to leave their comfort zone, perhaps through boredom, or they feel suffocated, or there are people or situations they just want to get away from. It's all about discovering who you really are, even if you do eventually return to what you're used to. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:08 PM
I have none of what has been listed here already. I've known since I was a child I wanted to move away and I did the first time when I was 17. I've lived in numerous different cities in 5 different countries in three continents and I'm planning my next move right now, which will happen in the next 2/3 years. Or less if something comes up. But I don't particularly like to "travel". I like to set up my home in new places. Sure, I'll visit places for a couple days/long weekend. Then I want to get back home wherever that happens to be. As for friends, I don't really need friends to hang out with all the time. I certainly don't need to hang out with the same friends all the time. Never have. Even in school I had different friends from different cities/schools. If I had to hang out with the same people as I did in elementary school/high school/uni/whatever or the same people all the time, I'd kill myself. Why would I want that? Contrary to what you say, I DO have very close friend who would fly anywhere I am if I need them and they would not only let me crash on their couch, they would let me move in with them. They come from all different stages in my life. I have 4 Sag planets. Nothing in the 9th.
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8805 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 05:11 PM
After highschool...When my friends went away for college and my s.o left me. I moved away to nyc for a year and came back just for just for school because I got a full scholarship. I was planning on staying in ny. My parents left their home countries and met each other and eventually came to the states. Idk it's a beautiful thing...
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dadoo Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: I have none of what has been listed here already. I've known since I was a child I wanted to move away and I did the first time when I was 17. I've lived in numerous different cities in 5 different countries in three continents and I'm planning my next move right now, which will happen in the next 2/3 years. Or less if something comes up. But I don't particularly like to "travel". I like to set up my home in new places. Sure, I'll visit places for a couple days/long weekend. Then I want to get back home wherever that happens to be. As for friends, I don't really need friends to hang out with all the time. I certainly don't need to hang out with the same friends all the time. Never have. Even in school I had different friends from different cities/schools. If I had to hang out with the same people as I did in elementary school/high school/uni/whatever or the same people all the time, I'd kill myself. Why would I want that? Contrary to what you say, I DO have very close friend who would fly anywhere I am if I need them and they would not only let me crash on their couch, they would let me move in with them. They come from all different stages in my life. I have 4 Sag planets. Nothing in the 9th.
^this. I'm very similar to you in the friends thing and the live abroad-not-travel thing. My chart ruler (Mercury) is in the 9th sextile Neptune in Sag. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 2814 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:16 PM
I moved 650 miles away to be with DeepFreeze and it's the greatest decision I've made in my entire life. The next being when he's finally my husband. My Jupiter is in the 4th and I have Mercury square Uranus and my Uranus squares my Ascendant. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 4534 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 05:20 PM
This is something I'd like to do. But once I would find a place that feels right, I'd stay. I have Uranus in the 4th house and Mars in the 9th.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: I moved 650 miles away to be with DeepFreeze and it's the greatest decision I've made in my entire life. The next being when he's finally my husband. My Jupiter is in the 4th and I have Mercury square Uranus and my Uranus squares my Ascendant.
Omg this is amazing!!! I didn't know you guys moved together. Congrats! I've moved across Atlantic ocean to be with my Libra man, and I as well have: Jupiter (Sag) in 4th house Uranus square Asc IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl Knowflake Posts: 614 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:32 PM
I've done this as well. I packed up and moved to another city that I really didn't know well. I did have a secure place to stay but didn't have work there. The reason I did it? Mostly for more opportunities. If another opportunity came up where I had to move to another city for an advancement in my career I would happily move. I become bored of living in a small city after awhile. Besides, even if someone does move to a different state and it doesn't work out they could always move back again.For me, the move/living in another part of the country was a great experience. I have merc trine uranus but nothing in 9th house IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 2814 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 05:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liliya: Omg this is amazing!!! I didn't know you guys moved together. Congrats!I've moved across Atlantic ocean to be with my Libra man, and I as well have: Jupiter (Sag) in 4th house Uranus square Asc
We did lol thank you so much. It's amazing! My family didn't take it very well but they're getting used to it. Maybe it's our jupiter's being in the 4th!
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 7430 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 05:38 PM
Probably a Uranian type. Also, Sagittarian. A lot of it has to do with lack of opportunity or just not meshing with the culture. Uranians can experience this. Sagittarius are curious and want to see new places, they live for the experience. Some people move to find opportunity or a career. Some find love. Some go just to be with people they relate to better or someplace that has a specific thing they need, like Olympic training gym, mountains with snow, beaches with waves, or gorgeous weather. It's kinda nice seeing new places.Besides, Aqua, what about professional truck driving? Did you scrap that idea? You would be living a very Sagittarian lifestyle, always wandering about. Some truckers don't even live in a house and save rent. My mom's coworker's husband didn't like renting houses. He just lived in his truck. So you could save money. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Probably a Uranian type. Also, Sagittarian. A lot of it has to do with lack of opportunity or just not meshing with the culture. Uranians can experience this. Sagittarius are curious and want to see new places, they live for the experience. Some people move to find opportunity or a career. Some find love. Some go just to be with people they relate to better or someplace that has a specific thing they need, like Olympic training gym, mountains with snow, beaches with waves, or gorgeous weather. It's kinda nice seeing new places.Besides, Aqua, what about professional truck driving? Did you scrap that idea? You would be living a very Sagittarian lifestyle, always wandering about. Some truckers don't even live in a house and save rent. My mom's coworker's husband didn't like renting houses. He just lived in his truck. So you could save money.
That seems like a great job for a Sag, that or living on a boat. You take your home with you as you. I'm attached to my physical home where my "stuff" is. But no necessarily the country/city/etc. Maybe I should think about getting an RV/Caravan thing! ) IP: Logged |