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Topic: Vedic Charts..
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5371 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 02:13 AM
I was reading how to see your vedic chart on astro.. Here is the directions. While generating chart, in extended chart, select: ~ House system: Whole Sign ~ Zodic: Hindu/Lahiri Geocentric (sidereal) So I had to look at mine... IQ posted this link on Vedic on another thread. http://martinrai.com/english/index_en.htm So I have a Gem Venus ====================================== VENUS IN GEMINI They are characterized by a great amount of curiosity, which is the main reason for which they begin a relationship. Their feelings can be compared with the images from a kaleidoscope, which can captivate us by their beauty but are not twice the same. They have an inborn taste for love-plays, for flirtation, for short relationships, sometimes with totally unknown people. They manifest the tendency to have very many relationships at the same time, to which they don't pay much attention but which can make them feel good because they don't have the time to get annoyed. They are not especially preoccupied by the physical interaction in itself but by the novelty. Their sentimental life may be compared with the image of a butterfly, flying from flower to flower, never stopping in one place. The faithfulness is not their forte, and they don't like the possessive lovers. They don't bother to fight for a relationship if they are confronted with some troubles, and they tend to fly away from a serious relationship. They generally posses a very good sense of dissimulation, which help them solve their conflicts in a friendly way. They are also endowed with a lot of spontaneity, they like the surprises and they are very communicative and you don't risk to get bored as long as you are in their company. OK so I have to admit this fits.. Except for the unfaithful parts. ================================== Mars in Seventh House The native will be fond of sex and too demanding in sex and may indulge in indiscreet sex life. The native will be romantic also. OK no comment here ====================================== Does anyone know if the lords are the same in Vedic as they are in Western???
Ie Leo= Sun Can = Moon etc... Plus would Saturn be for aqua? and Jupiter for Pisces?
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ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 471 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 02:46 AM
EEK. I looked mine up and I'm scared now!I have Taurus Merc conj Venus in 9th with Vedic: quote: Venus in 9th HouseVenus in this house does not offer good results. The native may have riches, but he will get his bread only after hard labour. His efforts are not properly rewarded. There will be dearth of male members, money, wealth and property. If Venus is accompanied by Mercury or any malefic planet the native will be a victim of intoxication and disease from seventeen years of age.
Oh, this is not good... I'm so psychosomatic. I KNEW there was something wrong with me... now I need to figure it out lol IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 03:03 AM
Venus Leo. – Money through women, pretty wife, wayward, conceited, passionate, fair complexion, emotional, zealous, licentious, attracted by the fair sex, premature in conclusions, superior airs, unvanquished by enemies.Eighth house. – Danger to mother, happy, given to bad habits, short-lived, famous, celebrated, unexpected legacies, trouble in mind, disappointment in love affairs, pious later in life. Mars Gemini. – Loving family and children, taste in refinement, scientific, middle stature, well built, earned, ambitious, quick, rash, ingenious, skilled in music fearless, tactless, peevish, unhappy, subservient, diplomat, humiliating, detective. Mars in the Sixth House Will have a sound physique and good health. Will be the vanquisher of enemies in the battle field. Wont have much fear in the mind. Will have tremendous lust, fame & regal status. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4086 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2011 04:31 AM
Dear Friends, Take Vedic predictions with a pinch of salt They were written for a Feudal populace in an age where Personality Development did not exist, where psychological empathy did not exist, where no man stood up for another's human rights. There was a rigid caste system based on profession. Only the local King or a couple of generals and soldiers had heroic/chivalrous values. Misogyny was quite dominant. The King could sentence anyone to death. Hence the predictions and assessment were harsh or judgmental, to explain the cause of suffering. The Insights of how the planetary energy plays, that is what is powerful. Friendly versus Malefic PLanets and combinations, House Lord combinations, Vedic Directions etc.
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Mermaid Knowflake Posts: 125 From: From the deep blue seas Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 10:58 AM
Lioness,In Vedic astrology,the outer planets Uranus,Neptune and pluto do not have rulership over signs.So Scorpio is ruled by Mars, Aqua by saturn and Pisces by Jupiter.The rest of the rulers are same as in Western. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2423 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 12:44 PM
I don't look up vedic interpretations when I review my vedic chart. The language is very dark and agree with IQ that vedic interpretation is outdated and doesn't take into account growth and personality development the impact of how interacting with our environment and others shapes us.I look at vedic to compliment tropical and for both I base off western interpretation. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2423 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 12:47 PM
I use Fagan, not hindu, and use the default system not whole sign. I found it to be more accurate.IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5371 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 12:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Dear Friends, Take Vedic predictions with a pinch of salt They were written for a Feudal populace in an age where Personality Development did not exist, where psychological empathy did not exist, where no man stood up for another's human rights. There was a rigid caste system based on profession. Only the local King or a couple of generals and soldiers had heroic/chivalrous values. Misogyny was quite dominant. The King could sentence anyone to death. Hence the predictions and assessment were harsh or judgmental, to explain the cause of suffering. The Insights of how the planetary energy plays, that is what is powerful. Friendly versus Malefic PLanets and combinations, House Lord combinations, Vedic Directions etc.
I agree with IQ here.. Some of the interpretations seem very ancient.. On one net reading I did.. It said I have Serpent sight, and my neighbors should line their yards with bamboo to protect them self from me... Not sure what aspect that is!! lol IQ do you think looking at the vedic chart, but using western definitions would be more accurate
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5371 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 04, 2011 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mermaid: Lioness,In Vedic astrology,the outer planets Uranus,Neptune and pluto do not have rulership over signs.So Scorpio is ruled by Mars, Aqua by saturn and Pisces by Jupiter.The rest of the rulers are same as in Western.
Thanks thats what I figured
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mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2393 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 04, 2011 01:09 PM
In the verdic I have a virgo moon. LOL uh how bout no. I'm a libra moon straight up. I don't fit my sidereel descriptions either. I'm definitely a virgo sun, libra moon, venus and mercury. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2423 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: In the verdic I have a virgo moon. LOL uh how bout no. I'm a libra moon straight up. I don't fit my sidereel descriptions either. I'm definitely a virgo sun, libra moon, venus and mercury.
when I use fagan and the default system it has made sense describing myself and loved ones using western interpretation. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 01:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Dear Friends, Take Vedic predictions with a pinch of salt They were written for a Feudal populace in an age where Personality Development did not exist, where psychological empathy did not exist, where no man stood up for another's human rights. There was a rigid caste system based on profession. Only the local King or a couple of generals and soldiers had heroic/chivalrous values. Misogyny was quite dominant. The King could sentence anyone to death. Hence the predictions and assessment were harsh or judgmental, to explain the cause of suffering. The Insights of how the planetary energy plays, that is what is powerful. Friendly versus Malefic PLanets and combinations, House Lord combinations, Vedic Directions etc.
Thanks for this! The way the vedic interpretations are written have kept me from studying the issue further. I just can't take seriously such discriminatory, hateful, menacing and extremely biased interpretations. The problem is that there are no updates (or are there) that would make Vedic interpretations more "modern". This just complicates the matter for a beginner in vedic astrology. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4046 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 02:00 PM
Its so different. I don't know how to interpret the differences. This is hilarious! Sun in 10th House Benefic : (1) Benefits and favours from government, good health and financially stronger. [YA I GET A TARP BAILOUTS!] (2) The native will get a government job and comforts of vehicles and servants. [WHAT SERVANTS?] (3) The native will always be suspicious about others. Remedial Measures : (1) Never wear blue or black clothes. [THAT'S ALL I WEAR!] (2) Throwing a copper coin in a river or canal for 43 years will be highly beneficial. [AND BE ARRESTED BY THE NYPD] (3) Abstain from liquor and meat. [THAT'S ALL I EAT AND DRINK] IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Sun in 10th House Benefic : (1) Benefits and favours from government, good health and financially stronger. [YA I GET A TARP BAILOUTS!] (2) The native will get a government job and comforts of vehicles and servants. [WHAT SERVANTS?] (3) The native will always be suspicious about others.Remedial Measures : (1) Never wear blue or black clothes. [THAT'S ALL I WEAR!] (2) Throwing a copper coin in a river or canal for 43 years will be highly beneficial. [AND BE ARRESTED BY THE NYPD] (3) Abstain from liquor and meat. [THAT'S ALL I EAT AND DRINK]
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lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 1108 From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 03:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: I don't look up vedic interpretations when I review my vedic chart. The language is very dark and agree with IQ that vedic interpretation is outdated and doesn't take into account growth and personality development the impact of how interacting with our environment and others shapes us.I look at vedic to compliment tropical and for both I base off western interpretation.
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AquaLad Newflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 07:13 PM
I've gotta say, my Vedic chart resonated more with me when I looked at the Western interpretations. With the Vedic interpretations there were way too many contradictions, which are to be expected in any form of astrology, but damn, in Vedic it was like 'You will have many sons, you won't have any sons, you will have one son and he will hate you, you will have many daughters and one son'.But still, what I found interesting about it all was that I identify with both of the charts. In a Western chart, I'm supposed to be Libra Asc, but in a Vedic one I'm Virgo Asc. Virgos are supposed to be very detail oriented, which I am, as well as picky eaters. But I'm only picky in that I always eat healthy food, because I want to look good for a long time, which ties back into my Libra Asc, I spend entirely too much time on my hair and my morning routine is almost exactly like Christian Bale's from American Psycho. So I guess my truest chart would just be melding certain aspects together, rather than to hew to one or the other. Christian Bale in the link for a quick laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46-WNPlCYsg&ob=av3e IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4366 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 07:48 PM
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4046 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 07:50 PM
If Vedic came first, then what gave rise to Western and why is it different? Aren't the position of planets scientifically the same? IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4366 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 04, 2011 07:53 PM
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iQ Moderator Posts: 4086 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 05, 2011 01:09 AM
As Amelia, Aqualad and others have discovered, Western Astrology interpretations CAN explain the Sidereal Nature much better than archaic interpretations.I have mentioned in another thread [Rishi Parashara thread] that Sidereal explains that part of our personality that is still static in this lifeline. Once we develop that side, the Tropical Chart comes into play. The greatest power of Vedic Charts is the 120 Year Vimshottari Dasha Cycle. This is invaluable for transit analysis and explains why some good transits fail, why some harsh transits stop with pin pricks and so on. The Vimshottari Cycle is so powerful, it can be frightening. There is hardly any escape from a Saturn sub-direction in this cycle and this is where forewarned = forearmed becomes valid. ------------------ http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html Readings IP: Logged | |