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Lonake
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posted January 03, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I was thinking in the Aqua ASC thread that the people I know w.that rising aren't v.eccentric at all, and I was thinking of the term in general,

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ec·cen·tric
   [ik-sen-trik, ek-] Show IPA
adjective
1.
deviating from the recognized or customary character, practice, etc.; irregular; erratic; peculiar; odd: eccentric conduct; an eccentric person.

Musing on eccentrics that I've seen, either in look or in how they live their life, I first thought of a fashion designer, who had an interesting look to her,


Vivienne Westwood, chart: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Westwood,_Vivienne no TOB
-she has a loose GT involving Uranus/Neptune/Aqua Mars, Uranus conj Jup & sext Merc
also Neptune out of sign conj NN


Another is director Tim Burton, chart: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Burton,_Tim TOB
-NN Aqua, Aqua MC, MC ruler Uranus conj Venus, sq Mars, trine Saturn
also Neptune out of sign conj NN


his partner Helena Bonham Carter, chart: http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/ZS24wMrjk46Y.htm no TOB
-Uranus conj Pluto, sext Jupiter & Neptune, nothing in Aqua
Neptune is opp NN


the actress Tilda Swinton, http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/GDjJ5qT74ApN.htm no TOB
-Uranus trine Venus, sq Merc, tr Jupiter, only Chiron in Aqua
Neptune sext NN, also conj to the Sun. She has an outer conj NN, Pluto.

Neptune just stuck out for some reason, eccentric said to be Uranus/Aqua, but there it is. Just a coincidence. Neptune could be aligned w.creativity.

I'll add more people when I think of em.
Or if you know v.eccentric people, add em too.

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posted January 03, 2012 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:

"ec·cen·tric
   [ik-sen-trik, ek-] Show IPA
adjective
1.
deviating from the recognized or customary character, practice, etc.; irregular; erratic; peculiar; odd: eccentric conduct; an eccentric person."


my english teachers always said that the word that is being defined shouldnt be in the definition...this fails, LOL

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted January 03, 2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lady Gaga, http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/A4xbfw7yH84s.htm TOB debatable, prob wrong.
-Uranus conj Mars, v. loosely, trine Venus, sq Merc, nothing in Aqua
Neptune trine NN

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posted January 03, 2012 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:

my english teachers always said that the word that is being defined shouldnt be in the definition...this fails, LOL



They use eccentric as example, like eccentric person, as opposed to eccentric flower, etc.

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posted January 03, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
arg....posts are dissapearing again....

i see...did you quote exact? just curious because it didnt say "ex:..."

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted January 03, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw the Gem in Depp too, those 3 are a good team. Good on Neptune.


Salinger, http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Salinger,_J.D. no TOB
-Aqua Mars opp Neptune, inconj Jup, Aqua Uranus opp Saturn
Neptune trine NN

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posted January 03, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NickiG, colon after odd, for examples.

O I know what it is they're being deleted

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posted January 03, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also known for eccentricities


H12 Neptune trining Sun,Venus.H1 Uranus unaspected,except for generational sextile to Nep.

As a very general guidance-outer planets.

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posted January 03, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Outer planet emp makes sense.
I was thinking hard aspects, but maybe not.

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posted January 03, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Damien Hirst http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/h9KP5V3AzhHx.htm no TOB
-nothing in Aqua, Uranus conj Pluto, loose conj to Mars, opp Saturn, sq Jupiter/Merc/Sun
Neptune inconj NN


Oscar Wilde http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Wilde,_Oscar TOB
-ASC ruler Merc opp Uranus, Uranus sq Moon, trine Jup, sext Nep
Neptune NN no aspect. Uranus conj NN

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posted January 03, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not with Pluto,though. Pluto is very efficient when in hard aspects.
Hard aspects are more productive/bearable when between closer planets perhaps because their energy is more this worldly,it is more attainable,it could be that Nep/Ura need some easy flow...

Bit random,but I have always wondered how Mars/Ura square ppl get anything done

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posted January 03, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ When they want to lol. When the mood strikes, then they work like mad.

So you think Pluto not good for eccentric cos it's too reality-based, or am I misreading?

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posted January 03, 2012 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Pluto is main indicator for eccentric ppl...! Pluto is grit absolute.
As for the aspects,I noticed how much better Pluto is in hard aspect in comparison to Ura/Nep. And maybe we need easy aspects to tune in into Nep/Ura gifts.

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posted January 03, 2012 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea that makes sense.

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posted January 03, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should we call Wilde eccentric? He was just fabulous Victorian gay

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posted January 03, 2012 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I'm just reading odd bits and pieces of him online. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/01/eccentricity-einstein-prince-socie ty
I'm open to the contrary.


Prince, http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Prince TOB
-Aqua IC, but barely, Uranus sq Nep, trine Mars, sq Venus, sext Merc
Neptune conj NN out of sign

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posted January 03, 2012 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tolstoy was a bit of an odd ball. Sexually peculiar,too
www.astro.com/astro-databank/Tolstoy,_Leo


non-comfortism and curiosity-Uranus(in addition to Merc fir curiosity)
creativity and idealism- Neptune (in addition to Jup)
Obsession- Pluto

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posted January 03, 2012 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ You see in his how those with the hard aspects have flowing aspects as well? So it's not all bundled up together w. no room for expression, is that what you were referring to? Cos I've been thinking this for natals in general lately.

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posted January 03, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah,it is great when you have trine/sextile vent. You still need energy which you have to push/direct to that trine/sextile output. And you can get epically stuck if you can't handle the square in the first place. Moon sq Neptune is freakin hard.. and this is coming from Moon/Nep conj.
My Mars has two squares,to Nep and Ven,and since it is in domicile no help from dispositor.And I can tell you,it isn't that bad. I am good with squares. And not just that,I am managing to get to Venus(that has sextile to Merc and trine to Pluto). With Neptune I have to go through its dispositor,Saturn that trines Sun. You see how much work I am doin? Hadn't I been comfortable with square energy (which could be upside to strong Mars) I would have been very unproductive and unhealthy,no trine to Venus would have helped.(and the squaring line from Mars to trined Venus is pretty strong,just as it would have been the sextile/trine from Mars)

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posted January 03, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Does your Mars have easy aspects?
Mine doesn't it's conj Saturn/Pluto & sq Venus. The conj to Saturn/Pluto is like all systems go or not at all.

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posted January 04, 2012 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope,bless him,Mars is easyaspect-less

Oh,you are a different league,when Mars teamed with Saturn and Pluto.
These '91. yr kids with Cappy Mars/Saturn are fierce,and pretty much an industry in itself,one nail is off and entire being is outta work

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posted January 04, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Aries is prob happiest running the show, calling the shots anyway

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posted January 04, 2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The great failing of Aries Mars is that along with calling the shots they want to execute them as well.
That's where an easy aspect would be needed,for my kind of Mars is always on the front lines,and you need bit of luck when in that position With squares it is always party and bit of killing..

On topic,I can see how a Sun trine Uranus,square Mars would have been better than Moon squaring Neptune and Uranus. The latter first has to get a hold on squares,and then go out and be an eccentric (because eccentric are active,they go on their way) and with Moon sq Nep that may never happen..on this plane or lifetime,anyway Neptune devours Moon.

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posted January 04, 2012 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The latter first has to get a hold on squares,and then go out and be an eccentric (because eccentric are active,they go on their way)

I like this.

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posted January 04, 2012 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bjork http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bjork

--Neptune conjunct ascendant
--Pluto, Uranus conjunct MC
--Mercury square Uranus, square Pluto, semisextile Neptune
--Neptune sextile Pluto, Uranus
--Venus trine Uranus, Pluto; sextile Neptune
--Pisces IC
--Mars opposition Jupiter; Mars semisquare Neptune

Her Saturn is also heavily aspected. Her NN has a quincunx with Mars.

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