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Topic: Horny but wanting to abstain: Is that a saturn in Scorpio thing? or....
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 06, 2016 10:44 PM
Can transit Saturn on your AC squaring both you 7th house ruler and 8th ruler forming a tsquare with Saturn at the apex as the release point do that?? All while transit Uranus is at the beginning of your 5th making working out at the gym my new hobby, transit Saturn keeping Uranus transit in check so it's energy gets channeled constructively while serving the purpose of transit Saturn on the AC. I guess since Saturn is at an angle squaring my skipped step it's influence is dominating and stronger than transit Uranus on my 5th.. Can you relate and if so what natal placements or transits you think explained this for you? Did it involve Saturn and 8th house ruler?
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7916 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 06, 2016 11:31 PM
Horny but abstaining (at least wishing one had the strength to) is what I'd call the default human condition, though the frequency and cause of horniness varies, as do the reasons for why one abstains.Btw, I COULD share of a time I desired to have sex with two people at the gym (not right then and there), but I refrained as I was in a monogamous relationship. Had I not been in that relationship then I'd have gone with them. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:34 AM
Pixie I am talking about abstaining from sex while been single or with your partner while in a relationship even though you are not asexual.I feel Saturn in aspect to the 8th house ruler can give the desire to abstain. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 5999 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 07, 2016 03:31 AM
I don't understand how you can say that out loud. I feel its TMI.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7916 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 07, 2016 03:44 AM
I just don't know what you're asking about. LOTS of single people abstain from sex. Even many in a relationship, or married, can abstain from sex for a variety of reasons. Singles worry about their rep, have religious or spiritual beliefs that inspire abstinence, do so for health reasons, which are the most common (and there are still more reasons). Those in a relationship may choose to wait for similar reasons, and may want to be sure that what they have is "real" and "not just about sex." Even married couples can abstain when horny for various reasons, such as not enough privacy, anger, shame they can't quite overcome that make indulging their lusts not worth it, they fear the distraction (that it would affect the performance of some task or project to give in, or alternately that it would cloud their judgment about each other so they abstain awhile), feel they need to reconnect on another level, one is recovering from something or is grieving, trauma (can still be horny, but face many other emotions as well that make sex a bad idea), pregnancy, perhaps their religious beliefs mean they can only have sex for procreation and they don't want to procreate...and, of course, they can be horny, just not for each other, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll act on their feelings or break their vows, especially if there are kids involved (yeah, I know, you don't mean cheating, but it's still a form of abstaining despite being horny). Known infidelity (such as a husband who travels a lot and one day exposed as having hired a prostitute) can also inspire abstinence out of fear of catching a STD (though I know of one woman who made her husband wear condoms all the time because of this). On top of that, one or both spouses may not actually indulge (or even admit to) desires they have, sticking to fairly vanilla or at least "acceptable" sexual practices for fears of being rejected and divorced should they admit to them (and there have been men and women both who filed a divorce, or at least considered it, over learning of a kink of a partner, and of course broke up if not yet married), which while not true abstinence is still refusing to act on their true sexual desires. And there are other reasons besides (I'm really curious about the truth of Gandhi's strange experiments of trying to overcome lust that seemed to mix the embracing of lust with tests of willpower to not give in to it.) I think it's common, but it sounds as if you think it's very rare. 'Course lots of sex (including by those who are not horny, at least not for the sex they're getting) is also common. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 01:55 PM
Ok pixie thanks for your input, I suppose I think abstaining even though you are horny and you don't have to OR have a reason to its rare in my eyes. I am just trying to figure something out but am just in the surface of it so my post perhaps seems weird and doesn't make sense.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: I don't understand how you can say that out loud. I feel its TMI.
Talking about desire and abstinence is too much information?? Or mentioning how Saturn transit on the AC and Uranus Transiting on my 5th is making gym and working out my new hobby too much information?. Well I don't know what to say, my Sag rising and mercury parallel Pluto think is good and healthy to talk about such things openly. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:11 PM
Can this thread be closed? it was intended to lead to discussion about astrological placements and transits.Thanks Randall. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8555 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 02:19 PM
Pluto/Venus/AC makes me abstain, i want intensity and depth...i see a cute a guy, i talk a few minutes to the cute guy, i can tell hes a moron, im turned off i walk away. I start seeing someone, i ask certain questions, they dont answer the way id hope....im forever turned off and never answer another call from them. I start on a dating site, too many ppl reply i get freaked out and overwhelmed and quit the whole site 2 days later....(probably a 12th house moon issue) but still it prevents sex! LolI like that i dont let very many ppl get near me, only very rare special ppl...typically when i do let someone close they stay close. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8555 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 02:20 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2962 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 02:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Can transit Saturn on your AC squaring both you 7th house ruler and 8th ruler forming a tsquare with Saturn at the apex as the release point do that?? All while transit Uranus is at the beginning of your 5th making working out at the gym my new hobby, transit Saturn keeping Uranus transit in check so it's energy gets channeled constructively while serving the purpose of transit Saturn on the AC. I guess since Saturn is at an angle squaring my skipped step it's influence is dominating and stronger than transit Uranus on my 5th.. Can you relate and if so what natal placements or transits you think explained this for you? Did it involve Saturn and 8th house ruler?
Saturn IME seems to cool things down-especially when in aspect with a planet. Is Saturn in aspect with Venus/Mars in your chart? I recall Saturn in aspect with Venus. And I didn't have much of a drive to do anything-let alone have sex. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Pluto/Venus/AC makes me abstain, i want intensity and depth...i see a cute a guy, i talk a few minutes to the cute guy, i can tell hes a moron, im turned off i walk away. I start seeing someone, i ask certain questions, they dont answer the way id hope....im forever turned off and never answer another call from them. I start on a dating site, to many ppl reply i get freaked out and overwhelmed and quit the whole site 2 days later....(probably a 12th house moon issue) but still it prevents sex! LolI like that i dont let very many ppl get near me, only very rare special ppl...typically when i do let someone close they stay close.
Thanks Gabby!!! You were a huge help you have no idea. Can I ask you something related to AC Pluto. Do find you feel things in general more intensely and maybe it has a build up effect and occasionally you might end up crying not exactly understanding why but you need the emotional release ?? I remember Little black cat is really good at abstaining like really good and she's has AC Pluto!! I think AC Pluto has very high standards with sex, I love it though, it's a great beautiful thing. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Pluto/Venus/AC makes me abstain, i want intensity and depth...i see a cute a guy, i talk a few minutes to the cute guy, i can tell hes a moron, im turned off i walk away.
Love it. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4106 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2016 02:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Saturn IME seems to cool things down-especially when in aspect with a planet.Is Saturn in aspect with Venus/Mars in your chart? I recall Saturn in aspect with Venus. And I didn't have much of a drive to do anything-let alone have sex.
I think that is accurate that it cools things off, gives you more restraint and really wants to take things slow and maybe the rest of the chart or transits going on provide you with the motivation or reason behind it.
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Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 631 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 07, 2016 04:22 PM
I've been abstinent for a couple of years now since my ex and I split up. It is not for a lack of options because I get hit on constantly. I just cannot have casual sex, it's not for me. My ex is the only man I've even kissed in over 17 years. I wasn't like that before him, but once I experienced a spiritual sexual connection with someone that I love unconditionally, anything less doesn't interest me at all. I don't consider sex just a physical act, and I'm very in tune with the energetic exchange that takes place during sex. This is why casual sex has such a negative energy to me. I am very sexual and completely uninhibited, but only with the right person. As far as abstaining while with someone, I've never done that. Although I think it's normal for couples that are together for many years to sometimes go through periods where they don't have sex as often. Especially if they're in a rough patch or they're under a lot of stress. It's pretty apparent in my chart why I take sex so seriously. I'm a Scorpio Sun and Mercury, which rules my 4th, 5th, and 8th houses. I have a Moon/Pluto and Venus/Saturn conjunction. Those all fall in the 8th house, and Jupiter is in the 8th as well. I also have Mars conjunct Neptune which is sextile my Moon/Pluto conjunction. I have to feel very deeply connected to a person to even want to have sex with them, and I wouldn't act on that attraction unless I felt that there was potential for a committed relationship. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8555 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2016 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Thanks Gabby!!! You were a huge help you have no idea. Can I ask you something related to AC Pluto. Do find you feel things in general more intensely and maybe it has a build up effect and occasionally you might end up crying not exactly understanding why but you need the emotional release ?? I remember Little black cat is really good at abstaining like really good and she's has AC Pluto!! I think AC Pluto has very high standards with sex, I love it though, it's a great beautiful thing.
Yes i could see a build up and then a need to cry, or scream into a pillow then cry...that happens to, just because of the intensity. I agree, AC/Pluto has high standards with sex. Sometimes its just not worth the energy it takes to do it...lol IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2229 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 08, 2016 10:13 AM
Wow, I'm a lot like you, Gabby. I always thought it was my Virgo. Which we both have that too. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 64883 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 08, 2016 11:08 AM
Close Sesame.IP: Logged |