posted August 16, 2021 08:09 PM            

I have no idea what is in store, but I think I'll stock up on some bags of popcorn and look out the window. LOL

I can't believe Pluto is going into Aquarius in 2023! Especially with the retrograde right now.

posted August 16, 2021 10:23 PM            

I honestly opened this thread thinking I'd see Leo or Sagittarius mentioned. Kudos Pluto to jumping that shark.

posted August 17, 2021 08:42 PM            

It doesn't mean that during the transit rules will be carved in stone that guide politics for that long. It just means it's on the agenda now and varying interests are competing for more territory (med. establishment, bio-tech, etc). In the sign of Capricorn, it also indicates innate tendencies of control mechanisms, paternalism, authoritarianism pop up and have to be addressed.

The transit does not form the basis of a prediction for the next few years or the next 240+. It's simply an appointment of US society to deal in what power means, how it functions, how we are empowered as individuals, individual rights, etc. All of it has to be dealt with, no matter what we thought the agenda was before the Pluto return began.

posted August 17, 2021 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
One person's conspiracy theory is another person's truth bomb. There is often at least a hint of truth in a percentage of the former, but one needs to apply discernment, holistic logic, and developed intuition to sort out the truth from the distortion.

Somewhat surprisingly, I'm finding Russel Brand a fairly good, and consistently so, source of deeper looks into these deeper societal issues relating to corruption, power grabbing, etc.

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posted August 17, 2021 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
And I do that. I don't like the assumption that I don't. Qanon is the worst, and very dangerous. Just one example. Russell Brand... he's become a guru. I'm iffy on him.

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Often people with a very strong emphasis on personal Signs and/or related planets, think that everything is personally about and/or directed to them, and often people with very strong emphasis on universal Signs and/or related planets are speaking more generally and impersonally about and to the collective.

Thus one of the differences between us.

But if you would like me to more specifically address you and be direct and blunt, I can.

I don't think you lack for either intelligence nor intuition Teasel, but as I've told you a couple times over a long period of time, I get the very strong sense that there is a part of you that really doesn't want to see how truly bad and corrupt things are, and on both sides of the political aisle, not just the right. That, essentially, this world is controlled by psychopathic plutocrats at the highest levels.

That fear/discomfort block along with your self identification with the political left, does tend to distort your deeper perception of things. You won't even allow yourself to seriously consider or be open minded to most so called "conspiracy theories" especially if they have any semblance of connection to the so called right.

Since I neither identify with the right nor left (because I know that is a sham/con game), I can be more objective and impartial about separating the wheat from the chaff. I don't know much about QAnon, but I suspect, even in there, there probably are some hints and kernels of truth, but also A LOT of distortion. When the distortion so outweighs the truth though, best to leave that source alone. Hence why I've never seriously delved into it. My spidy senses are strong, and tell me it's way too off to even consider in any seriousness.

Also, continuing on a personal note theme, it seems you have become so habituated to arguing and fighting with people via GU2, that it seems like it's an addictive drug for you, and now that you are avoiding that area, it's spilling over into other sections, and with someone that is NOT your enemy, and even though he often disagrees with you, he sometimes does agree and even has personally defended you.

"Guru" btw is related to the Planet Jupiter in Vedic/Hindu teachings, and also related to the concept of spiritual teacher/awakener. It is not automatically negative, just because there are a lot of false/corrupt/abusive gurus out there. I don't always completely agree with Brand, but I appreciate that he tries to be objective, balanced, fair, and has a wicked sense of humor and wit meanwhile. Also, he comes from and still identifies to some extent, with the left/progressive side of things, which I don't understand why you would have prejudice towards him?

Curious, do you think that you are more intelligent and witty than Brand, I wonder? Maybe the common Arian-Taurean arrogance, stubbornness, self centeredness, pride, and hubris also sometimes gets in the way of clearer and more objective perception of things? Maybe Uranian-Scorpionic extremism also doesn't tend to help?

In any case, I would like to go back to speaking more impersonally and generally. You can continue on the personal and argumentative vein if you would like, but I'm not much interested in it. Not a single planet in a personal Sign. Just not my jam.

posted August 18, 2021 05:35 PM            

First, a story.

Imagine with me for a moment ...

Imagine you are the parent of a teen son. He wants to serve his country and enters the Navy at 17. You have that first picture of him in his military uniform, looking young, fit, and willing. Imagine how proud you feel looking at that picture. And you aren’t worried because he’s serving stateside.

Now imagine getting a call telling you he’d been burned over most of his body. You can’t believe what you’re hearing. Imagine seeing him in pain and disfigured that way for the first time. He’d been here, supposedly safe from all the risks of battle. What happened? You could never seem to get a satisfactory explanation.

Now imagine waking up decades later to the news that your son and thousands of his fellow soldiers had been guinea pigs in an experiment with chemical and/or biological weapons.

I’ll never forget Peter Jennings on ABC Nightly News delivering the horrifying story (24 May 2002) of the Pentagon’s admission to those chemical/biological weapons experiments on our own soldiers.

The sailor in the picture above was then 17-year-old Glenn Jennings when he joined the Navy in 1943. In 1991, upon hearing of soldiers suffering from Gulf War Syndrome, he broke his decades long silence to testify to Congress. As a young sailor he had been locked in a gas chamber at the Naval Research Laboratory within sight of the US Capitol for mustard gas experiments. He never regained his good health; he suffered from ongoing medical problems from the poison gas. The Navy’s threat to him was, “Tell no one or face life in prison” —because they knew what they’d done was wrong.

Whatever mistakes of judgment caused it, whoever was responsible, it still took a multi-agency conspiracy of many complicit individuals to cover it up for decades. And you know that those responsible were all dead by the time the Pentagon made its confession.

The astrology of Pluto and its return transit
In astrology Pluto is the planet of power and its unconscious (concealed) use. It represents any concentration of wealth or power, any amassing of resources (banks, etc).

The US Pluto return (which began in 2019) triggers all these aspects and their issues that involve power, abuses of it, domination, war-making, ends-justifies-the-means, and other issues of ethical boundaries and restraint of force.

I write this article to address both the socio-psychologic intricacies of the Pluto return and some related issues given the pejorative “conspiracy thinking.” People who crave power and control conspire to get it and to cover up their misdeeds. The US is no exception. Conspiracies are not the exclusive territory of dictators and attempts at coup de’tat.

Read the full article complete with chart at my blog:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2021/08/18/usa-pluto-return/

posted August 19, 2021 03:24 AM            

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posted August 19, 2021 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I know people are against conspiracy theories and I will not get too much into the politics of it all but man, this government overreaching is really getting out of hand for sure. Like the vaccine proof, a lot of people are against it and it is certain blue states pushing them hard.

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When has controlling the masses through force and fear led to good things?

posted August 19, 2021 11:53 AM            

It's like whatever the powers that be had planned, they planned it for decades and slowly but surely took small bites until going in for their victory.

Past populations were more patriotic and even more proactive about protecting their lands. The modern population of the US has been so spoiled with an overall easy life due to social media and other things that it has become almost numbed to everything, drained in smartphones to the point where they are chasing dopamine highs.

posted August 23, 2021 02:03 PM            

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I am with you Hypatia. I think that the masses are too drained by social media and have just enough to keep themselves occupied that it is not going to be much of a revolution. In a way, it is like people are going to just see the nonsense for what it is but I'd say really like 30 to 40% will see it for that. The rest will be easily brainwashed by social media or be forced to comply to where it doesn't really mean anything.

It's like whatever the powers that be had planned, they planned it for decades and slowly but surely took small bites until going in for their victory.

Past populations were more patriotic and even more proactive about protecting their lands. The modern population of the US has been so spoiled with an overall easy life due to social media and other things that it has become almost numbed to everything, drained in smartphones to the point where they are chasing dopamine highs.

If anything, I think that it will be out there for all to see and people won't do a thing about it.

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That is definitely part of the problem you are right, I think technology may be the new opium of the masses but I suppose as long as a large part of the population has arms we won't end up like North Korea at least which is definitely something everyone should be scared off, the day we are stripped of the 2nd amendment rights its game over and we lose as they will truly have all the power and power corrupts absolutely.

posted August 31, 2021 06:47 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Pfizer vaccine approved

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hooray... 😑 another brand of mystery liquid to choose from. Keep em comin..

I had the radio on while driving last week & on one of the stations the host starts saying **** that was something like this:

God came to me in a dream last night & he told me I needed to let the people know that God, he wants you to take this vaccine. He told me there is nothing to worry about. This isn't me telling you this, this is God's words. I am only the messenger.

posted August 31, 2021 07:28 AM            

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Pfizer vaccine approved

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This is the vaccine I have been vaccinated with twice. I had no issues. Just a sore muscle a couple of hours afterwards because thats where they inject the vaccine. Most of my co-workers received this vaccine as well.

posted August 31, 2021 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Australia seems to be the new North Korea.

Citizen rights? What rights, we're in a pla..I mean a pandemic, you aint got no stinking rights Aussies.

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posted August 31, 2021 01:46 PM            

When they see through the faux 'compassion' put forth by those who are making a lot of money off of fear, then their minds will change.