posted August 11, 2016 06:27 PM            

In fact, I tend to wander into people's lives right before they go through a major event...deaths in families, relationships ending, friendships dissolving, moving, changing jobs, etc. Most the time it does not involve me. It's like I'm just there to witness it. It happens a LOT though.

posted August 11, 2016 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Yes. A few times.

In fact, I tend to wander into people's lives right before they go through a major event...deaths in families, relationships ending, friendships dissolving, moving, changing jobs, etc. Most the time it does not involve me. It's like I'm just there to witness it. It happens a LOT though.

But yes a couple friends of mine said they were transformed by me..by my encouragement, support, or advice.

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posted August 11, 2016 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Yes. A few times.

In fact, I tend to wander into people's lives right before they go through a major event...deaths in families, relationships ending, friendships dissolving, moving, changing jobs, etc. Most the time it does not involve me. It's like I'm just there to witness it. It happens a LOT though.

But yes a couple friends of mine said they were transformed by me..by my encouragement, support, or advice.

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posted August 11, 2016 07:57 PM            

When I work, I also work in facilities that are inherently transforming in nature for the people who need those services.

posted August 12, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
Or did that person pop up into your life during a time where they desperately needed a change in their life and kinda searched for that through you?

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yeah. probably every relationship I ever get into.. I'm told that I came into their lives at a crazy time, or when they were going through a lot of change, or atleast the start..
Honestly.. I feel like EVERY relationship I get into theres some sort of intense change.. especially when we "break up" or I cant handle the person anymore and I end up just telling them everything they did that made me upset.. its a combination of my own actions that inspires them to be better, along with my "critism".. which is hard. but every person I end up breaking apart with.. ends up transforming to be better! I feel like they find parts of themselves that are truer to themselves and become better.. usually I am made out to be the azz cause when it gets to the point where I leave a relationship, I will psychologically tear them apart.. which I'm not necessarily proud of, but I'm usually spot on, and that's whats so hard for people to hear.. because no one else will tell them what the heck is wrong with them, I will, then ill tell them how to fix themselves, I know everything takes time and patience.. then pat them on the back later and think to myself "i knew you could". we all have shadows, and I guess presenting them is a huge factor in my relationships.. how can we grow if we don't accept those parts of ourselves? it just hard on my part because a lot of the times people aren't ready for that yet, and its not my place to change them.. but I certainly will speak my mind about their behavior and how its not healthy.. or whatever, sometimes its not even like that and I'm just a healing presence for those going through a lot of turmoil in their lives.. ive noticed that people only learn things when they are ready .. and that kind of pressure doesn't usually happen in a relationship until people start acting out on me so much that I finally lash back and give them a dose of perspective, maybe its that forced change and facing the self that makes transformation inevitable..

My Venus is conjunct pluto in scorpio on the DC so that's why its such a huge theme for me.

every boyfriend ive dumped, ended up becoming more successful than they were before, ended up getting married!? or in a serious relationship!? which is interesting to me.. haha.. my longest relationship.. after I virtually begged him to grow and change with me and he stubbornly refused.. ended up completely doing a 180 degree flip when I left him, almost like he had to prove to me that he could be what I said he wasn't trying to be.. he ended up starting his own business, finding a girl hes been with for a long time and now is moving around the country doing his business. crazy to me.. and he still tries to keep tabs on me and continuously thanks for me all that ive done for him, he expresses his gratitude for me.. which feels good, last I saw him he told me if it wasn't for me and kicking him in the azz he wouldn't be the person he is today..

when it comes to friendships ive had people rip off my artwork or in a sense "grow" artistically from my work.. which ****** me off. but its happened. ive had my artwork stolen all throughout my life.. *rawr*!!!!! (that's my inner dragon roaring with rage as my creations are stolen from me!!!)

posted August 12, 2016 01:52 PM            

Mercury rules my 8th and 11th house and falls in my 10th. Sun in the 11th semisextiles pluto..

I am a mental health counselor with an eclectic approach and use a lot of energy psychology techniques in combination with integrative psychotherapy, cognitive behavioral therapy techniques and dialectic behavioral therapy techniques to transform people's subcobscious maladaptive beliefs and correct disruptions in the energy field that are halting the process of healing.

I love what I do although is stressful and painful.

posted August 12, 2016 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Lol well that is what I do for a living. Chart ruler is pluto conjunct Saturn in the 12th sextile Venus conjunct Mars; Venus rules my 12th and Mars rules my 6th, Venus conjunct Mars fall in the 10th.

Mercury rules my 8th and 11th house and falls in my 10th. Sun in the 11th semisextiles pluto..

I am a mental health counselor with an eclectic approach and use a lot of energy psychology techniques in combination with integrative psychotherapy, cognitive behavioral therapy techniques and dialectic behavioral therapy techniques to transform people's subcobscious maladaptive beliefs and correct disruptions in the energy field that are halting the process of healing.

I love what I do although is stressful and painful.

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ooOoooo that sounds really awesome, what a cool job! healing can def be stressful at times but so rewarding. so neat so neat so neat!

posted August 12, 2016 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
ooOoooo that sounds really awesome, what a cool job! healing can def be stressful at times but so rewarding. so neat so neat so neat!

I use to pursue psychology academically, I love depth psychology.. it was really hard for me to adjust and be patient.. art/creative outlets ultimately won, but I still love psychology and all the methods to heal the mind are so interesting. so crazy!!

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posted August 12, 2016 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
yeah. probably every relationship I ever get into.. I'm told that I came into their lives at a crazy time, or when they were going through a lot of change, or atleast the start..
Honestly.. I feel like EVERY relationship I get into theres some sort of intense change.. especially when we "break up" or I cant handle the person anymore and I end up just telling them everything they did that made me upset.. its a combination of my own actions that inspires them to be better, along with my "critism".. which is hard. but every person I end up breaking apart with.. ends up transforming to be better! I feel like they find parts of themselves that are truer to themselves and become better.. usually I am made out to be the azz cause when it gets to the point where I leave a relationship, I will psychologically tear them apart.. which I'm not necessarily proud of, but I'm usually spot on, and that's whats so hard for people to hear.. because no one else will tell them what the heck is wrong with them, I will, then ill tell them how to fix themselves, I know everything takes time and patience.. then pat them on the back later and think to myself "i knew you could". we all have shadows, and I guess presenting them is a huge factor in my relationships.. how can we grow if we don't accept those parts of ourselves? it just hard on my part because a lot of the times people aren't ready for that yet, and its not my place to change them.. but I certainly will speak my mind about their behavior and how its not healthy.. or whatever, sometimes its not even like that and I'm just a healing presence for those going through a lot of turmoil in their lives.. ive noticed that people only learn things when they are ready .. and that kind of pressure doesn't usually happen in a relationship until people start acting out on me so much that I finally lash back and give them a dose of perspective, maybe its that forced change and facing the self that makes transformation inevitable..

My Venus is conjunct pluto in scorpio on the DC so that's why its such a huge theme for me.

every boyfriend ive dumped, ended up becoming more successful than they were before, ended up getting married!? or in a serious relationship!? which is interesting to me.. haha.. my longest relationship.. after I virtually begged him to grow and change with me and he stubbornly refused.. ended up completely doing a 180 degree flip when I left him, almost like he had to prove to me that he could be what I said he wasn't trying to be.. he ended up starting his own business, finding a girl hes been with for a long time and now is moving around the country doing his business. crazy to me.. and he still tries to keep tabs on me and continuously thanks for me all that ive done for him, he expresses his gratitude for me.. which feels good, last I saw him he told me if it wasn't for me and kicking him in the azz he wouldn't be the person he is today..

when it comes to friendships ive had people rip off my artwork or in a sense "grow" artistically from my work.. which ****** me off. but its happened. ive had my artwork stolen all throughout my life.. *rawr*!!!!! (that's my inner dragon roaring with rage as my creations are stolen from me!!!)

either way, the theme is huge! no one is left unchanged when they spend time with me =

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This resonates with me so much.

"Transformation" seems to be a theme in all my major relationships (at least intimate ones - maybe a couple friendships). I ALWAYS end up calling them out on the things that have driven me insane up to the breaking point, not to hurt them, but to help them become better. It may seem cruel and harsh at the time but it always comes from a good place. Even in my current relationship when we've argued, he always ends up mentioning later on how much he appreciates how I call him out on his nonsense and make him "think" more. I think I'm only woman that has taken the time to really recognize his weaknesses (and strengths) and bring them to his attention with the genuine interest in helping him be better. He has Pluto in the 7th so I think he almost thrives on the "transformation."

To have this placement means not fearing the depths of the human psyche and being willing to "go there" should you be faced with reality. It's extremely difficult in the moment but very cleansing at the same time. I think this is what Pluto means in general.

posted August 12, 2016 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
This resonates with me so much.

"Transformation" seems to be a theme in all my major relationships (at least intimate ones - maybe a couple friendships). I ALWAYS end up calling them out on the things that have driven me insane up to the breaking point, not to hurt them, but to help them become better. It may seem cruel and harsh at the time but it always comes from a good place. Even in my current relationship when we've argued, he always ends up mentioning later on how much he appreciates how I call him out on his nonsense and make him "think" more. I think I'm only woman that has taken the time to really recognize his weaknesses (and strengths) and bring them to his attention with the genuine interest in helping him be better. He has Pluto in the 7th so I think he almost thrives on the "transformation."

To have this placement means not fearing the depths of the human psyche and being willing to "go there" should you be faced with reality. It's extremely difficult in the moment but very cleansing at the same time. I think this is what Pluto means in general.

I have Venus/Pluto square almost exact.

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I can relate to this!

Just recently, I called out a goat on his BS. This wasn't the first time but definitely the most heated and crazy that I don't want him in my life anymore. He drives me up a wall. What's going to happen next? I'm not sure. But what usually happens is that they come back a better person. In my case, it's been exes.

This goat has transiting Pluto almost out of his 1st house. He needed me to give him a good slap of reality in true Pluto style. It got me thinking that this is probably why we were meant to meet.

I have Venus square Pluto too.