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ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 21, 2012 10:40 PM
  
Can anyone tell me what it means to have sun conjunct saturn and NN in synastry AND in composite? I have read opposing things about it. Lil confused here lol IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 21, 2012 11:17 PM
i have saturn cj NN in virgo (born 79 too) and it is supposedly about a life of relative solitude and discipline and soforth. don't know much beyond that (other than descripts of each in themselves). most likely you would identify strongly with this having it as your sun and i assume it would help you develop your NN more easily than others. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 21, 2012 11:19 PM
what opposing things have you heard?IP: Logged |
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posted January 21, 2012 11:57 PM
In synastry, it is probably a strong possibility that the relationship never blossomed despite feelings or other factors.IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 22, 2012 12:02 AM
well for ppl born in 79 that would mean we couldn't have any long lasting relationships with any one our age and that seems a little fatalistic, and unlikely to me. maybe moreso in general but i'd think we could handle that energy better since it's in the natal. i also think that saturn on NN in synastry can be really steadying and supportive, especially in the sign of virgo. IP: Logged |
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posted January 22, 2012 02:08 AM
I would understand that logic, if the NN weren't a part of an axis, and a feature that we "grow into" as a function of time. By the way, I was reiterating what I read on another board... I'm also a '79er and actually have been in a long-term relationship with another '79er. However, our NN-Saturn contacts weren't conjunct. I was briefly involved with another '79er whose Saturn was somewhat close to my NN and what I read about a relationship never developing applied. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted January 22, 2012 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Can anyone tell me what it means to have sun conjunct saturn and NN in synastry AND in composite? I have read opposing things about it. Lil confused here lol
there are massive differences in natal to/from synastry charts.North node http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodesouthnode.html http://www.astrologycom.com/nodes.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Authentic%20Self http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes Saturn conj Node in natal are modified by signs, houses and aspects.... but generically (without seeing a chart) suggests much hard work, discipline, karma, men, authority figures will be instrumental in your *Life Lessons* In synastry this suggests delays, caution, frustration, slowness in learning joint Life Lessons.... ------------------
I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted January 22, 2012 05:36 AM
Over the last couple of years I've come into contact with two people who had their saturns conjunct my north node (but they are born 29 years apart).I have to say that the whole "doesn't get off the ground" thing applies here too. My north node is in Capricorn so Saturn rules here and my own Saturn is con my south node so there is a mutual reception in play. I have wondered about the reasons for things not developing and I think it could have something to do with the Saturn person not wanting the responsibility for the north node persons long term goals. The most recent case (the older of the two) ~ has his moon con my south node and Saturn, and my moon is con his south node. There are other aspects too both good and bad (as always). But things just don't seem to move despite feeling comfortable and having an attraction. My Uranus con his north node but it's not tight @ 8 deg. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 22, 2012 11:12 AM
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In synastry, it is probably a strong possibility that the relationship never blossomed despite feelings or other factors.
^^This. I was instantly attracted, besotted, overjoyed... We had Venus conjunct Mars in Taurus. pAsc conjunct nVenus in Taurus & nAsc conjunct pVenus in Virgo. It was magnetic and romantic, we loved being around each other. Despite these aspects things didn't blossom. We were separated by circumstance. We also shared Saturn conjunct Sun - exact & Saturn conjunct NN by 5 degrees. Plus Mercury conjunct NN exact. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 22, 2012 01:33 PM
okay but how many relationships ever really move forward? if you're currently single, you could reasonably look back and say 100% of them didn't, if you're not, then 100% minus this one person.i'm not saying there isn't something to it. i dunno, i've known a lot of 79ers and we're all a tad loner-y but warmhearted and a bit weird. very hardworking/focused , for the most part. we have a vibe and i think it has to do with this conjunction. i can see that being a problem in synastry. the only person i dated from my year was my first bf that i'm still in love with or something and we dated over a year, so it 'got off the ground'. i know that synastry and natal aspects play out differently but i was referring to the original poster who was referring to two ppl with saturn/NN natally conjunct (i'm assuming), so my thinking is that because they have the same shared energy of the conjunction it wouldn't necessarily play out difficultly as it would for those without the natal aspect. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 22, 2012 07:30 PM
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okay but how many relationships ever really move forward? if you're currently single, you could reasonably look back and say 100% of them didn't, if you're not, then 100% minus this one person.
With two people who dated or were in a committed relationship for a year then ended things amicably, I think that can be considered a successful relationship which moved forward. My understanding of the OQ is whether the presence of Saturn/Sun/NN aspects would prevent those two people from bonding at all. IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 22, 2012 11:56 PM
Wow I need to check back in more often lol sorry for the delay. I've read that saturn contacts r usually binding esp with more than one but I've also read its too heavy for some ppl and I believe I read somewhere (googled it, don't rem which message board) that its indicative of unrequited love ?? Ok then. On another note whoever just said 79ers r loner-y and warm hearted but weird...that so describes me!  I thought that cute when I read that lol thank u for all the replies...IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 23, 2012 12:16 AM
Wow I need to check back in more often lol sorry for the delay. I've read that saturn contacts r usually binding esp with more than one but I've also read its too heavy for some ppl and I believe I read somewhere (googled it, don't rem which message board) that its indicative of unrequited love ?? Ok then. On another note whoever just said 79ers r loner-y and warm hearted but weird...that so describes me! I thought that cute when I read that lol thank u for all the replies...IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 23, 2012 02:13 AM
aww sweet! heheh, i'm sure there are exceptions but i have found this to be the case with most of us  quite sensitive and artistically inclined too but that could be a year of the sheep thing cuz i know other sheep from other years who carry this trait as well. is the person you're wondering about also a 79er? IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 23, 2012 02:20 AM
nine, i see what you mean. it's funny cuz i've never had relationships or been into ppl born the same year as me except for the one guy i can't shake (sigh). and i don't know if our relationship was very successful; we sure brought out a ton of stuff for one another and changed eachothers' lives for the better (more than anyone else had done, and it was mutual), but that was an eventual thing and the relationship itself was pretty crazy.i would think it depends on various factors (obviously) but i really do feel that saturn's persistence and relationship with karma COULD play out beautifully with the NN. i dated someone who's nodes were flipped from mine and my SN was on his moon and his SN was on my saturn and it felt HIGHLY karmic indeed, but more like we'd been together before and just needed to learn to part on good terms (weren't meant to be this time around, though we were extremely comfortable and attracted to eachother), so i feel like saturn/NN can have a similar effect except that it might be much easier to reject since the NN path is never really natural/easy and saturn can be very inhibited and fearful. still it seems like a very purposeful bond, potentially, to me. IP: Logged |
Taineberry
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posted January 23, 2012 02:43 AM
Well, I can comment a little bit on saturn conjunct SOUTH node if that is any help, as I have this in a double whammy with my husband, and we will be married 27 years this year. We also have saturn conjunct south node in composite. I "knew" I would marry him almost as soon as I met him. Even though our marriage has had its share of challenges, we both feel a huge sense of responsibility to each other - there is a strange sense of obligation ; like we owe each other something which is impossible to escape.I can only imagine that with saturn on the north node, the NN person might develop this sense of indebtedness to the saturn person or vice versa over time. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 23, 2012 03:27 AM
wow taineberry that is so interesting. the guy whose SN my saturn was on and i shared that feeling as well, like an owing feeling. for us we had an on and off again thing for about a year and a half, like we kept getting drawn back together out of this sense of needing to help eachother, and we felt so familiar to one another too. he actually talked about marrying me within a few days as well. eerie! i'm VERY certain we were married in a past life if there are past lives and that we had to settle our small debts and stuff like that. there is still an attraction and he is SO COMFY but i think since we had mutual SN conjunctions it was too much stagnance. well, namely his moon on my SN drove me the most crazy i think. pisces. wishy washy city.IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted January 23, 2012 03:30 AM
but then again my biggest celeb crush ever/humanly possible is on a guy with whom i share a moon/SN double whammy in very tight orb. i feel like our bond would be so massively comfortable (and not stagnant, but then again we also have a star of david in composite) and he is incredibly familiar and i dream about him often and he's always confessing his love for me! IP: Logged |
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posted January 23, 2012 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Well, I can comment a little bit on saturn conjunct SOUTH node if that is any help, as I have this in a double whammy with my husband, and we will be married 27 years this year. We also have saturn conjunct south node in composite. I "knew" I would marry him almost as soon as I met him. Even though our marriage has had its share of challenges, we both feel a huge sense of responsibility to each other - there is a strange sense of obligation ; like we owe each other something which is impossible to escape.I can only imagine that with saturn on the north node, the NN person might develop this sense of indebtedness to the saturn person or vice versa over time.
Again, this is the problem when not seeing charts and discussing just *one aspect* when out of context like this. I am assuming you have some good basic synastry aspects going on for it to last so long. In general terms...... Saturn is the Lord of Karma and master teacher, but really he's trying to teach us. It wants us to be responsible, hard working, dutiful and learn our Lessons properly, so they won't have to keep being repeated. Therefore, is usually suggests things slowing down, delays, limitations and restrictions so we can learn these Lessons.
What Saturn does is 'test' what is of value to you and what is working in your life. It wants structure and hard work. If something isn't working--- it may well end--- so something better can be put in it's place. Now in Synastry for good OR bad saturn acts a cement, where sometimes people simply cannot break away ------------------
I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 23, 2012 05:08 PM
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I can only imagine that with saturn on the north node, the NN person might develop this sense of indebtedness to the saturn person or vice versa over time.
Hmmm...I don't know. My original understanding of NN/SN is that NN is challenging & SN is easy. However, I've come across new information which turns this upside down: 1. The NN is a benefic Jupiter point. 2. The SN is a malefic Saturn point. 3. NN contacts are enriching & SN contacts are draining. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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posted January 23, 2012 05:12 PM
I have saturn conjunct my south node....feel free to ask my any questions - in scorpio in teh sixth house...trine moon in pisces and sextile jupiter in capricorn...pretty sweet deal if you ask me....malone.IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 23, 2012 09:11 PM
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I have saturn conjunct my south node....feel free to ask my any questions
me? What were the dominant themes & events in your life around the age of 9 and/or 27?? Where is Pluto in your chart - sign & house? IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 23, 2012 11:04 PM
No he's not a 79er lol his bdate is sept 10, 1978, 6:50am. Mine is sept 12, 1979, 8:14pm. I've been reading about NN/SN for a few months now and I seem to get the jist of it...(is that even a word? Lol) I'm just an astrology freak and I've been comparing charts for friends too. Altho I've read too many saturn contacts makes it seem too heavy ?? IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 23, 2012 11:07 PM
But I do agree with saggi about having to look at more than just one aspect IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979
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posted January 24, 2012 07:59 AM
I was rereading everyone's replies and let me clarify here. Each person in question has sun/saturn/NN all conjunct in virgo natally and then in comparison would make it also conjunct in synastry with each other and and in composite as well. Jus sayin IP: Logged |
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