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CrabbyFish unregistered
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posted January 09, 2009 12:51 AM
What the heck is this thing? And is it powerful like I hear some of u guys say?IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Newflake Posts: 0 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 01:10 AM
Yup. It's as powerful as the square with an element of obsession to it, but more like extremely strong determination and grit. It is a 165 degree measurement between two planets or a planet and point. I use it everyday in my practice and it WORKS!It gets easier to see when looking at charts. Just imagine you're looking at an opposition then count 15 degrees away on either side and there you have it. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 03:28 AM
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Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 03:44 AM
The quindecile, with rulership routings to be respected as well, suggests a burning point of focus, often a place of extreme concern and effort in the life, even to the point of upheaval, disruption, and obsessive mania. http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/990801.html IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Newflake Posts: 0 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 07:02 AM
Quindecile's are not bad, just like squares aren't bad. It all depends on what planets or points you are talking about.I'm quite happy when I see transiting Jupiter quindecile Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Uranus or Pluto. Of course I start with Jupiter but there are many others. It's the squares, oppositions, quindeciles that are active and cause growth, they make the world go around. Trines and sextiles do nothing, there are lazy aspects, but it's definitely a matter of opinion. I can't say that I always love tense aspects, it's just reality. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1926 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 10:10 AM
Check this page too; Aspect graph included in link. http://www.donmc.com/minoraspects.htm Minor Aspects -- a Major Misnomer? Most every astrologer and serious student uses the Ptolemaic aspects (the conjunction, opposition, trine, square, and sextile). But as we reach beyond the staples of analysis, we quickly get into murky territory. Are the "minor" aspects really less important? Can we just ignore them?
First, let's consider the inconjunct or quincunx. This 150-degree aspect is probably the most used of the "minor" aspects. Just 30 degrees (+ or -) from an opposition, it generally is interpreted as a difficult aspect requiring some sort of adjustment in order for the planetary energies to be well integrated. Probably the single one of the lesser aspects to be routinely used, it deserves consideration in the overall chart interpretation. The quindecile [pronounced quin-deh-chee'-ley] (165 degrees) is just 15 degrees short of an opposition. This aspect, rediscovered by Noel Tyl and further researched and expounded upon by Ricki Reeves in her recently-published book, The Quindecile (see the recommended books section of this Web site) is certainly not to be ignored. It is an indicator of obsession, compulsion, disruption, separation, and upheaval. The quintile (72 degrees) is thought to contribute an element of creativity based on the involved planets. Especially useful when evaluating career potential or artistic abilities/talents. The semisquare (45 degrees) is recognized as a tense or challenging aspect. Certainly not as challenging as the square, this aspect can sometimes provide very useful information, especially in a chart comprised of very few Ptolemaic aspects. The sesquiquadrate (135 degrees) — equal to a square plus a semisquare — is another hard aspect that proves useful in charts where there aren't enough Ptolemaic aspects to give us a solid analytical feel for the chart. The semisextile (30 degrees) seems to be an even further dilution of probably the least exciting of the Ptolemaic aspects, the sextile. Perhaps mildly benefic, this one can probably be ignored without losing anything significant in interpretation. I'd also have to group the novile (40 degrees), the decile (36 degrees), the septile (51 degrees, 25 minutes, and 43 seconds), and the vigintile (18 degrees) and others in this category of "safe to ignore". There are many theories—but little agreement—as to the effect of these most minor of the "minor" aspects. So in summary, I use some of these aspects routinely — namely the Quincunx, Quindecile, and Quintile. Others of these "minor" aspects—especially the semisquare and sesquiquadrate—can at times be of immense help. This certainly applies to unaspected or Peregrine Planets (meaning no Ptolemaic planet-to-planet contact) where the impact of these lesser aspects can contribute information that otherwise might elude us." I own the Reeves book and recommend it.
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leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 04:08 PM
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 09, 2009 04:19 PM
Totally agree Geo So, if l have jupiter at 25' Leo and my bf has sun at 10' Aquarius then this is a quindecile? Does that mean l bring him good fortune? IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Newflake Posts: 0 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 06:01 PM
Yes indeed, Lara. You probably make him super happy, he might find you to be very funny since Jupiter rules humor, you might find yourselves laughing alot and being the happiest funny laughing couple in the room at a party, stuff like that.Heck, I had a boyfriend who's Jupiter opposed my Sun and we were like little rambunctious kids in a school room that the teacher couldn't make behave. I would often feel like I was floating off the ground as if in a hot air balloon when he was around. We have remained incredibly great friends. The relationship didn't work out for other reasons such as we really weren't available to each other, but then that's a 12th House Venus story, if you catch my drift. Hi LeapingLemur14, I totally agree with you about hard aspects feeling like a pain in the a$$ much of the time, I'm not immune to the pain either, but that's life. I used to worry so much about the difficutl aspects in transits and Solar Arcs when I saw them coming up and I realized sometimes that the worrying about it was the worst part. The expectation of the worst catastrophic events happening was worse than when the actual event happened. Sometimes when you are years behind a certain difficult event or transit or Arc, you sometimes feel glad that it happened because you have new muscles as a result. Hard aspects keep you in shape and make muscles, too. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Newflake Posts: 0 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 06:01 PM
Oh, and Lara, his Sun activates your good luck as well.IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 09, 2009 06:22 PM
WOW Geo, thats an amazing aspect, thanks! It's true. He says he feels so happy when he's with me His venus at 5' capricorn quindeciles my IC at 20' cancer too. My vertex quindecile his NN. My juno quindecile his NN. My karma quindecile his NN. My valentine quindecile his venus his NN quindecile my eros His NN quindecile my vertex His psyche quindecile my sun IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted January 09, 2009 06:32 PM
what about if his Jup quindeciles my Venus?IP: Logged |
CrabbyFish unregistered
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posted January 09, 2009 10:00 PM
What is the symbol for this aspect (quindecile) is it the letter Q or some other symbol? Will it show up on my horoscope chart from Astro.com?IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1926 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 08:20 AM
The Quindecile glyph appears in the link I posted above, but it is really tiny and hard to see. Most glyphs and fonts are stylized, but the representation on the cover of the Reeves book shows it as this-> Astro.com does not use it. It is easy to do with a calculator tho. Halloran or other freeware might carry it.
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 10, 2009 08:22 AM
Yes Crabby,It's Q IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1926 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 08:30 AM
The traditional "Q", unstylized is for the Quintile - 72°IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 10, 2009 08:35 AM
true... i'm half asleep today! sorry IP: Logged |
Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 08:38 AM
I echo what Node just said. The "Q" and bQ" you see as aspects on astro.com stand for Quintile and BiQuintile.IP: Logged |
lovegoblin Knowflake Posts: 27 From: neverland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 09:48 AM
"Just imagine you're looking at an opposition then count 15 degrees away on either side and there you have it." Could you clarify "either side"? Does this mean you can count 15 degrees past 180?
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 10, 2009 09:51 AM
Let`s say you have a planet on 15° Aquarius.Opposition would be at 15° Leo. Now the quindecile would be either 15° Leo +15 or 15° Leo - 15 so 135° (15 Leo) + 15 = 150° /00 Virgo
135° - 15 = 120° /00° Leo So every planet at 15° Aquarius has quindeciles on 00° Leo and 00° Virgo.
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lovegoblin Knowflake Posts: 27 From: neverland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 01:02 PM
thank you DD!i think i get it now. IP: Logged |
lovegoblin Knowflake Posts: 27 From: neverland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 10, 2009 02:04 PM
one more question: can you allow a degree or two either way or must it be exact?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 10, 2009 04:49 PM
I think an orb of 1° or 1,5° may be okay. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 10, 2009 05:01 PM
here are my orbsMy jupiter QD his sun (0') His venus QD my IC (0') My vertex QD his NN (0') My juno QD his NN (1') My karma QD his NN (0') my eros QD his NN (2) My valentine QD his venus (1) His psyche QD my sun (3)
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scorpy_oh Knowflake Posts: 176 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 27, 2012 11:52 AM
my sun, moon, mars are in the 6th house and in quindecile to my asc. they are all within 2 degrees and less. the tightest of which is my scorpio moon. i definitely identify with the descriptions. i find it really difficult to balance relationships and work.IP: Logged |