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Topic: Why are women more likley to be stalked than men?
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lovehate122 Knowflake Posts: 392 From: Ireland Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 30, 2012 04:57 PM
Im looking for an astrological reason to this ? I don't know if there is one . is their more scoprios in the world or something? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2012 05:26 PM
I don't see this as having much to do with astrology. Things to consider:One, many men are encouraged to go after what they want and are prepared for (sometimes even excited by) conflict, competition, and risk so that men would be more likely to act as a stalker and feel less ashamed to do so (one stalker I knew was surprised how threatening women found it, he thought the women he stalked would be flattered). I wonder how much the "hunter instinct" many men are supposed to have also play a part. And I don't even want to think about how "rape culture" encourages this. Women are much more likely to report it because we tend to be a lot more afraid by it and also have less inhibition than men to seek help. (Men being much more likely to resort to violence as well as being larger only encourages this.) Men are less likely to report it because they tend to find it more of a nuisance than a menace (even when a female stalker becomes violent she's more inclined to attack other women who come around her obsession than the man himself), and even when they do become frightened many men are expected to "suck it up" and admitting to being afraid for his safety from a woman can make asking for help especially humiliating. So all in all I'd say that it's not so much astrology as it is society encouraging certain behaviors in respective genders that encourage men to go after what they want (while women are supposed to attract rather than go after) and men are more likely to be reported when they do, and men are also more likely to resort to ultimate frustration with a gun or other violence (and thus getting on the news where a stalking woman who leaves a thousand messages, shadows, FB stalks, and the like isn't newsworthy enough, and even when it does make the news it's usually her doing something like breaking into his home and ironing his clothes), all of which would give the illusion that men stalking women is rampant but not the reverse. IP: Logged |
Curious Bull Knowflake Posts: 190 From: Down Under Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 30, 2012 10:43 PM
There is recent genetic research predicting people like that.I watched a research documentary on the MAO gene which has been discovered in most violent criminals, who were all murderers but included stalkers and rapists. In a blind trial, the brain researcher discovered that certain brain patterns identify certain disorders, like schizophrenia and also homicidal people. He then ran genetic tests on people on death row with that same homicidal brain same, and found that all without fail had the MAO Warrior gene. Digging deeper, and researching people not on death-row and with no criminal record he found that 'upstanding' members of society had the gene too - including himself! They then dug further to find out what differentiated the expression of that gene and found a direct link to childhood trauma made it highly likely a MAO warrior gene carrier would stalk, rape or murder - i.e. offend. Those with lovely childhoods (safe, loving, nurturing) lived following social norms that preserved life. It would interesting to see if there was any similarity in the horoscopes of all carriers of the MAO gene. Any predictors... like there are for sports super stars. -C.B.
quote: Originally posted by lovehate122: Im looking for an astrological reason to this ? I don't know if there is one . is their more scoprios in the world or something?
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Blanky Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 12:54 AM
Men greatly outnumber women regarding violent crime. So i imagine that fact alone has much to do with the higher probability of a man stalking a women versus a woman stalking a man.Men tend to turn their energy 'outwardly' while women tend to turn their energy 'inwardly.' Hence the higher numbers of women versus men in mental illness. IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms Knowflake Posts: 677 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 31, 2012 01:28 AM
sorry but i just laughed at that title, ummm because patriarchy exists.....?IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3998 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 31, 2012 02:35 AM
Sexist societyyyy, not astrology. quote: is their more scoprios in the world or something?
Acually, September is the most common birth month, August being second - so there's more Virgos than anything, IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 31, 2012 02:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Blanky: Men tend to turn their energy 'outwardly' while women tend to turn their energy 'inwardly.' Hence the higher numbers of women versus men in mental illness.
Reminds me of what Carlin said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Akwy4pxF0 IP: Logged |
DunorDius Newflake Posts: 9 From: England Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 08:32 AM
girls stalk in the open. Their celebritiesIP: Logged |
lovehate122 Knowflake Posts: 392 From: Ireland Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
and libras don't forget libras ! and what makes september the most common birth month?IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 3998 From: GMT-5 Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 31, 2012 11:23 AM
^I dunno just...statistics, I guess, lmao! Nine months previous would be December, so that's most common month for conception, IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 1932 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 11:27 AM
Both genders stalk just in different ways, men may physically stalk, women may use facebook, mutual friends and other databases to stalk men.IP: Logged |
7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 12:56 PM
Pluto conjunct Sun in House 7 Libra, maybe? Most stalkers are jealous boyfriends and girlfriends. PS.lovehate122 i know what you did last summer. ))))) IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 1056 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted October 31, 2012 07:17 PM
Im a female with pluto conjunct sun 0* and I have never stalked anyone...though I have thought about it. I am very obsessive person. Its in libra in h 6, but I dont think libra or virgo have anything to do with stalking or sometimes even scorpio. You have to have a very strong pluto specifically and sometimes not even a scorpio sun is cut out for that.IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 1700 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 31, 2012 07:33 PM
I only stalk my crushes if its on conveniance xDVirgo/Scorpio/Gemini -veda Libra/Sagittarius/Gemini-westurr IP: Logged |
Choc Knowflake Posts: 274 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2012 08:13 AM
It has nothing to do with astrology. We live in patriarchal societies where men are brought up with the logic that they can't control their urges and women are mere objects readily available for use.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37956 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2012 08:26 AM
Stalking would be Nessus, Dejanira( asteroid wise) imo. Planet wise, it would be Pluto in aspect to a person's personal planets such as Venus and the Moon imo------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Mandy pie Newflake Posts: 12 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2012 09:23 PM
I don't think there's an astrological reason for that. Astrology is gender neutral. Sure you can predict how certain planets in a man's chart might express themselves differently than a planet in a woman's chart, but that just has to do with nuture/nature not astrology which takes a more broad stroke.For example, mars opposite saturn might make someone more angry or violent. If it's a woman she might poison him because women are more likely to use poisons... if it's a man he's more likely to use his hands or a violent weapon. Testosterone gives more energy so men are often more violent in their methods. Astrology only says anger/violence... it doesn't get into more detail than that. A man might stalk to usher control while a woman might use manipulation. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4505 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 05, 2012 01:26 AM
it is kind of a sexist issue because society doesn't take it seriously when women do it, but if its a man people are up in arms. I've got a married friend who is in an awkward situation at work, there's a girl who stalks and sexually harasses him at work. he has told her that he is married and faithful and she still wont leave him alone, he even told his supervisor and they still haven't done anything about it and its been going on for months. If it was a guy doing that stuff he would've been fire by now and possibly had a lawsuit on his handsIP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 05, 2012 02:55 AM
Of course society doesn't take it as seriously as when a woman does it, a woman is much less likely to go postal and kill someone than a man is. Nevertheless, men also sue for sexual harassment and get support from groups that fight such harassment (usually on behalf of women), such as this example: http://www.sexualharassmentguide.com/female-constable-sued-for-sexual-harassment/ Meanwhile there are also women who get ignored and worse for reporting it. And on Halloween I volunteered to help redecorate an office for the Halloween Party that night and spent about 40 minutes being harassed (for example, the curtain rods come apart and so he tells me to hold mine while he inserts his rod back into it while moaning, "Oh, it feels so good!") I tolerated it off and on that long before I said calmly, "That's enough, thank you," and he pretty much instantly walked out and then one of the people who worked there--a woman (but also the guy's sister I found out later)--bawled me out for it and kicked me out for popping an "attitude" and driving him away. And plenty of people heard him harassing me and did nothing (though my friend said they were confused as we were both volunteers and not employees). I think he watches way too many porn movies for him to think I'd respond well to that (I later heard that when he left he said he wasn't going to "work with that stuck up ***** anymore" which apparently was my not being charmed by his crude flirting like some blonde ditz in a porn flick). But then I'm used to that crap. I'm just glad I found him pathetic rather than dangerous as some of the other guys I've had the misfortune to experience before. Even Rush Limbaugh understands why people take sexual harassment by men more serious and said so in one of his book (something about an ad for I think jeans featuring a woman grabbing a guy's butt, I'd say what I recall but my memory is so fuzzy that I know I'd get something wrong and someone who has the book would probably accuse me of somehow twisting his words, but I do recall he said a woman grabbing a guy's butt didn't bother men because most men wanted to be the guy in the ad). And then there's the old joke (considered "funny because it's true"): “When a man talks dirty to a woman it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man it's $3.95 a minute.” IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1052 From: maya Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2012 07:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Stalking would be Nessus, Dejanira( asteroid wise) imo. Planet wise, it would be Pluto in aspect to a person's personal planets such as Venus and the Moon imo
and who would stalk who ami? the pluto person or the personal planet person? IP: Logged |
JLyn ~ Knowflake Posts: 254 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 06, 2012 12:56 AM
Because women have the greatest stuff J/K!But no really because astrology can only give you a reflection of someone's personality, or a couples relationship; not give answers to such a question. Your question is resolved by something deeper like DNA and genetics of the human and aminals species. Male are designed to chase, females are designed to flower themselves. But, we humans are evolving and the roles are changing and becoming unpredictable IP: Logged |
LoVeLy Knowflake Posts: 200 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 06, 2012 05:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by lovehate122: Im looking for an astrological reason to this ? I don't know if there is one . is their more scoprios in the world or something?
I don't think there is an astrological reason ------------------ Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House ) Moon in Libra Rising sign Libra Honesty is Confidence - Hoodie Allen ❤ IP: Logged |
ksushil970 Newflake Posts: 13 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 07, 2012 05:11 AM
I don't think there is an astrological reason, it differs from person to person and his nature. so, kindly don't consider it as a zodiac sign. _____________________ Vashikaran Mantra For Love
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starfairy Knowflake Posts: 117 From: los angeles, california, USA Registered: Jul 2010
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posted November 07, 2012 10:53 PM
A good friend of mine has Venus square Pluto in her natal chart. Men around her age have their Pluto in square aspect to her Venus. She attracts stalkers like white on rice. IP: Logged |
StacyLewis Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted November 07, 2012 11:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by lovehate122: Im looking for an astrological reason to this ? I don't know if there is one . is their more scoprios in the world or something?
I don't even think the answer is astrological. Guys just hit harder. IP: Logged |