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Topic: Stiffness and overthinking
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peregrine
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posted October 31, 2012 08:21 PM
  
What placements cause this? transits? I have a first house saturn and a 6th house mercury. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted October 31, 2012 08:45 PM
Hard Mercury to Saturn aspects. Like a Saturn square Mars transit. A tough Saturn transit to the ruler of the 3rd or 9th, which both deal with lower/higher thinking. Another possibility: Saturn progressing through the 9th and the 3rd. 9th it would probably be worse since this house deals with faith and a higher, celestial thinking. 3rd could make one have some rigidity too though. A 6th house Mercury might cause one to be a bit more inclined to Virgoan thinking which can be rigid, neurotic and perfectionism oriented at its worst. IP: Logged |
StacyLewis
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posted October 31, 2012 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Hard Mercury to Saturn aspects. Like a Saturn square Mars transit. A tough Saturn transit to the ruler of the 3rd or 9th, which both deal with lower/higher thinking. Another possibility: Saturn progressing through the 9th and the 3rd. 9th it would probably be worse since this house deals with faith and a higher, celestial thinking. 3rd could make one have some rigidity too though. A 6th house Mercury might cause one to be a bit more inclined to Virgoan thinking which can be rigid, neurotic and perfectionism oriented at its worst.
Not necessarily. Saturn in the 9th could indicate something like a person who was unsure of where they stood philosophy or religiously, coming to a decision about those issues and deciding what it is they believe in. It doesn't have to necessarily play out as rigidity or limiting. Right now I'm at the beginning of a 9th house Saturn transit and that's how it's played out for me - I've finally drawn my line in the sand and decided, "Okay, this is what I believe in, and this is what I don't." IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted October 31, 2012 11:32 PM
Weird thing is I don't see myself doing this but a couple of people have said exactly the same thing for me not to notice. 1 was a tarot reader. The other my superior.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 01, 2012 05:02 AM
Saturn in 1st house here. Yes.
I have a Mercury-Saturn TRINE and I'm overthinking worse than people with hard aspects.IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted November 01, 2012 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Hard Mercury to Saturn aspects. Like a Saturn square Mars transit. A tough Saturn transit to the ruler of the 3rd or 9th, which both deal with lower/higher thinking. Another possibility: Saturn progressing through the 9th and the 3rd. 9th it would probably be worse since this house deals with faith and a higher, celestial thinking. 3rd could make one have some rigidity too though. A 6th house Mercury might cause one to be a bit more inclined to Virgoan thinking which can be rigid, neurotic and perfectionism oriented at its worst.
The ruler of my third is saturn and t saturn is going to conjunct it soon. Will check progressions. IP: Logged |
quinnlycanastro
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posted November 01, 2012 11:38 AM
Over thinking?Jupiter in the 3rd ~ havinh lots of thoughts Aspects from Mercury to Pluto ~ obsessive with thoughts Virgo ~ sign of analysis
But stiffness? Can be fixed signs, Saturn, but I've seen rigidity of thinking across all signs and aspects.
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quinnlycanastro
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posted November 01, 2012 11:38 AM
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Hanneli
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posted November 01, 2012 12:23 PM
i've got scorpio moon semi-squaring saturn which is sitting right on my asc. my mind never gives up on anything and my face shows it  IP: Logged |
CRCRINCON
Knowflake Posts: 263
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Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 01, 2012 12:40 PM
Stiffness could be related to stuborness...And I've found Taurus qualities to be stubborn. So maybe some aspects related to that...IP: Logged |
waxlobster
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posted November 01, 2012 01:57 PM
In my opinion humans as a species over-think. It is the secret to unhappiness ;-)Peregrine this sounds like a verbatim description of you from people who barely know you. Perchance the issue is more that you take too seriously what you are told? For this I give you Mercury contact to Neptune, Neptune contact to the Ascendant. Have to agree with the other responses ~worry usually correlates to Virgo (Chiron) and Saturn (Capricorn) affecting Mercury and or 3rd House contacts. We all DO worry but these are the 'thinking worrier' types ;-) IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted November 01, 2012 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
Over thinking?Jupiter in the 3rd ~ havinh lots of thoughts Aspects from Mercury to Pluto ~ obsessive with thoughts Virgo ~ sign of analysis
But stiffness? Can be fixed signs, Saturn, but I've seen rigidity of thinking across all signs and aspects.
I have a third house jupiter. Merc opposite pluto. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted November 01, 2012 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by CRCRINCON:
Stiffness could be related to stuborness...And I've found Taurus qualities to be stubborn. So maybe some aspects related to that...
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peregrine
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posted November 01, 2012 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
In my opinion humans as a species over-think. It is the secret to unhappiness ;-)Peregrine this sounds like a verbatim description of you from people who barely know you. Perchance the issue is more that you take too seriously what you are told? For this I give you Mercury contact to Neptune, Neptune contact to the Ascendant. Have to agree with the other responses ~worry usually correlates to Virgo (Chiron) and Saturn (Capricorn) affecting Mercury and or 3rd House contacts. We all DO worry but these are the 'thinking worrier' types ;-)
Yup merc trines neptune. Nep sections asc. IP: Logged |
Blackbird
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posted November 08, 2012 05:01 PM
I see those things in my own personality... let me see if I can spot them in my chart.Mercury conjunct Saturn = self-censorship? This kind of meshes with the "stiffness" that the OP referred to. Mercury conjunct Pluto = skepticism, obsession; this could mesh with over-thinking.
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My natal chart: http://i46.tinypic.com/25kt0r8.png IP: Logged |
SolarSag
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Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 08, 2012 05:17 PM
Mercury in Capricorn conjunct Saturn (close minded, stiff)Gemini moon (over thinking) Grand air trine (over thinking) I'm only speaking from experience, these are my placements. IP: Logged |
StacyLewis
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posted November 09, 2012 09:32 AM
For rigid-thinking? Mercury-Saturn aspects. The harsh ones. For overthinking? Depends on what you mean by that exactly - I'm thinking Virgo Mercury placements, for dissecting and picking things apart excessively. Mercury-Pluto would make a person obsess in a more general sense, just constant thought on the same thing over and over or all the time. IP: Logged |
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