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T
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posted December 02, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if any other heavy 8th housers find that people feel comfortable sharing secrets or personal info with them. .....like they open right up, very quickly...

Was thinking about this tonight and have noticed a trend. Maybe because they sense I'm trustworthy and if I swear I won't repeat it, the person knows that I wont. But it's been going on my whole life. I know WAY more than I need to about people and their personal relationships.

The last person I encountered was at my place for a couple of hours and told me way too much personal info about her previous relationship. Not sure if it was just her (or if she feels she can do that with anyone), or if she felt she could open up to me about it.

In any case, I realize that I often know too much personal info about people - more than I'd care to.

I often take on the counselor or therapist role in relationships without wanting or meaning to. Is this common with other heavy 8th house people?

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posted December 02, 2012 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the opposite actually. My sag mercury 9H likes open communication, I rather someone be upfront and tell me what I did wrong than hold it inside, or pretend like they never knew me. which I get a lot. Never have deep conservations unless I happen to be amongst a group of people that person feels comfortable around, but I don't think I'll ever get that one on one.

Sun, Mars, Pluto in Scorp 8H

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posted December 02, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
I'm wondering if any other heavy 8th housers find that people feel comfortable sharing secrets or personal info with them. .....like they open right up, very quickly...

Was thinking about this tonight and have noticed a trend. Maybe because they sense I'm trustworthy and if I swear I won't repeat it, the person knows that I wont. But it's been going on my whole life. I know WAY more than I need to about people and their personal relationships.

The last person I encountered was at my place for a couple of hours and told me way too much personal info about her previous relationship. Not sure if it was just her (or if she feels she can do that with anyone), or if she felt she could open up to me about it.

In any case, I realize that I often know too much personal info about people - more than I'd care to.

I often take on the counselor or therapist role in relationships without wanting or meaning to. Is this common with other heavy 8th house people?


I DEFINITELY connect with everything you're saying, I've always been the counselor to everybody, and people always seem to share their secrets with me. I only have Pluto in Scorpio in 8th though.

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Babysmackle
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posted December 02, 2012 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Babysmackle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup...emotionally...they open right up. I get all the secrets and the juicy dirt on all the fly babies.

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StacyLewis
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posted December 02, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had some people do that - not many, and they were the type that typically tend to tell people things that are too private in general. So it wasn't about me, because they do that with everybody.

But usually for me the opposite is true and no one tells me anything. People, in general, usually go out of their way to only tell me the absolute bare minimum about themselves - even if we're friends, they'll tell everyone else *but* me their secrets.

It's also pretty common for people to withhold things from me that they should be telling me because it's about me or involves me. This extends beyond friendship and romantic situations, too - even with family, I usually find out a lot of stuff by accidentally overhearing it, or piecing things together.

I always blamed my eighth house, ascendant, and Neptune aspects for that, that people either think I'm too standoffish and not the kind of person they can warm up to and tell things...or, that they think that emotionally I can't handle what they have to say or might tell me.

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posted December 02, 2012 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope not very free about giving personal info out to people. uranus and neptune in my eighth house

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posted December 02, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have my Cancer Mars in the 8th house, it trines my 12th house Scorpio Pluto, squares 11th house Scorp Mercury, opposes 2nd house Cap Neptune-Uranus.

I find that people easily reveal their secrets to me, especially things that are taboo or out of the ordinary.

2 friends came out to me first among an entire group of friends, and in their families.

Many people with secret addictions, disorders, and mental issues/anxiety problems have confided in me, sometimes only me, because I 'made them feel safe' or they 'really trusted' me.

When I first meet people more than half the time if we have a natural connection, or whatever... they will really open up a piece of their heart to me without discretion, they'll tell me things I consider more private - like illness/mental disorders in themselves or their families, personal problems, childhood memories, their deepest dreams, etc. This can happen with just acquaintances, or with people sitting next to me at the hairdresser's, etc. I'm often surprised by these happenings.

I also am very Chironic/of Chiron so I feel this has something to do with it too. Sometimes I wonder if the 8th house combo with the healing energies of Chiron play into it.

BUT I agree that 8th house people always dig deep and sometimes come up with more than they can handle.

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posted December 02, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Babysmackle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me put it this way...bare in mind I'm an eighth houseroo!

I go to the parties...the first thing that people put on the table are all the drugs...if you want the drugs, ask me, I'll find the drugs simply by standing still and being me...they will fall out of the people's hands into mine..

I don't do drugs though...

I get the people who tell me the secrets on all the other people too...I know the dirt on people six degrees away from me.

It's my eighth house power and I never abuse it. It's my gift..

PEACERS!

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birdy
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posted December 02, 2012 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate to a lot of things you wrote. People are usually comfortable telling me personal things. I like personal interaction and not a fan of superficial conversations.

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posted December 02, 2012 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

I can't trust people in this time of my life right now but I've always been everyone's counselor and psychologist too, I speak truth whether it hurts or not

Pluto and Saturn in 8th house

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StacyLewis
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posted December 02, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Babysmackle:
Yup...emotionally...they open right up. I get all the secrets and the juicy dirt on all the fly babies.

Both times I read your posts I felt like I'd just swam through a sewer and needed to take a two-hour shower.

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posted December 02, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No one tells me anything...
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AscTaurus
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posted December 03, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually think “confide in me” natal positions are more Virgo/Pisces placements than Scorpio.

Virgo energy is impartial and not invested. They’ll tear away at the details and “fixability” of the issue then trying to find the “moral” or “right” way of solving it, and for many people, this energy comes across as quite comforting.

Pisces energy is really non-judgmental too and is a “let loose and let be” energy that may not offer much solutions, but a very good ear.

I would look at Virgo/Pisces placements (Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars) and also Virgo/Pisces in 6th/7th house.

The above placements make a person feel like they are being heard without the individual concerned “filtering” out their views in order to project their “right” way of dealing with the issue.

These placements absolve personal involvement and thus, the ability to “keep” secrets. The individual is not “keeping” secrets at all, merely being a sounding board. The “secrets” are projected back to the individual confiding without judgment.

I know someone who has Pisces Ascending, Moon in Virgo and he often jokes about how he attracts “basket cases”.

He also, however, has his Mercury conjunct his Jupiter in Sagittarius; this makes him seem very passionate, very invested and too “moralistic” and judgmental.

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posted December 03, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an 8th house Sun and Jupiter. People have revealed plenty to me over the years, and some people have found me a worthy counselor, but I don't get the impression overall that I have special powers in this area. I am attentive to my surroundings, and I do tend to look for what's not being directly communicated. I'm also a pretty good listener. A quiet(ish), yet confident demeanor seems to inspire confidence from some people.

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posted December 03, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
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I don't know him but he sounds great.

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T
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posted December 03, 2012 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great feedback. Thanks guys.

& yeah, i was talking about people opening up to you really quickly, not whether you open up to people quickly or not.

AG, twin moon brother, same here.

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posted December 04, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Babysmackle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I actually think “confide in me” natal positions are more Virgo/Pisces placements than Scorpio.

Virgo energy is impartial and not invested. They’ll tear away at the details and “fixability” of the issue then trying to find the “moral” or “right” way of solving it, and for many people, this energy comes across as quite comforting.

Pisces energy is really non-judgmental too and is a “let loose and let be” energy that may not offer much solutions, but a very good ear.

I would look at Virgo/Pisces placements (Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars) and also Virgo/Pisces in 6th/7th house.

The above placements make a person feel like they are being heard without the individual concerned “filtering” out their views in order to project their “right” way of dealing with the issue.

These placements absolve personal involvement and thus, the ability to “keep” secrets. The individual is not “keeping” secrets at all, merely being a sounding board. The “secrets” are projected back to the individual confiding without judgment.

I know someone who has Pisces Ascending, Moon in Virgo and he often jokes about how he attracts “basket cases”.

He also, however, has his Mercury conjunct his Jupiter in Sagittarius; this makes him seem very passionate, very invested and too “moralistic” and judgmental.



I would have to disagree with this...

My experience is people tend not to trust Pisces because they have trouble figuring out how not to even sabotage themselves...they frequently randomly reveal things in conversation on a whim...some Pisces are different and most are not.

And virgos are so critical...first thing that comes out of a virgo is "your problem is.." or some sort of fix for your secret.

On the neigh...my experience is capricorn - strong reserved silent, and scorpio - intense silent brooding...are more of the secret getters and keepsers.


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posted December 04, 2012 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
I'm wondering if any other heavy 8th housers find that people feel comfortable sharing secrets or personal info with them. .....like they open right up, very quickly...

Was thinking about this tonight and have noticed a trend. Maybe because they sense I'm trustworthy and if I swear I won't repeat it, the person knows that I wont. But it's been going on my whole life. I know WAY more than I need to about people and their personal relationships.

The last person I encountered was at my place for a couple of hours and told me way too much personal info about her previous relationship. Not sure if it was just her (or if she feels she can do that with anyone), or if she felt she could open up to me about it.

In any case, I realize that I often know too much personal info about people - more than I'd care to.

I often take on the counselor or therapist role in relationships without wanting or meaning to. Is this common with other heavy 8th house people?


8th house Scorpio and do really agree with this, sometimes you'll just meet someone and next thing you know you are pretty much in their wheelhouse about things that happened ages ago..for no apparent reason.

Odd thing is, normally never have to say "I'll never repeat it" as for whatever reason it is just assumed I shall not repeat whatever is said to me.

What is scary about that is one also attracts the crazies to speak.

If I can ask, do you have a steady gaze and calm manner? Do you smile often and have insights?


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posted December 04, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 8th house in Uranus and Neptune.

Oh yeah I get my share of people to open up to me, not always immediately but at least eventually. Oh yeah I've had a few people tell me some really messed up stuff. Where I am thinking "WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY TELL ME THAT!?"

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posted December 04, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have got an 8th house moon and people tell me their secrets.I find it very easy to dig infos from them.Some talk abut their sexual life with me.Sometimes it really drains me.

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posted December 05, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suntiger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter and Moon/Gemini in the 8th house. I can certainly relate. I always have to remind people that sometimes it's TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!

It's not just the gossip though. People often confide in me with their personal issues and genuinely ask for help. Before getting into Astrology, I always thought it was because I have a degree in Psychology, but this has been happening since my pre-teens.

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posted December 06, 2012 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Babysmackle

I would have to disagree with this...
My experience is people tend not to trust Pisces because they have trouble figuring out how not to even sabotage themselves...they frequently randomly reveal things in conversation on a whim...some Pisces are different and most are not.

And virgos are so critical...first thing that comes out of a virgo is "your problem is.." or some sort of fix for your secret.

On the neigh...my experience is capricorn - strong reserved silent, and scorpio - intense silent brooding...are more of the secret getters and keepsers.

I know what you mean and some Virgo moons/Sun can seem , paradoxically, very cold and judgemental.

The experinece I've had with the Virgo moons I've met is deep sympathy. But then again, most had Neptune aspects to Moon, Sun or Mars.

To each his own, I guess....

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posted December 06, 2012 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 8th house is empty, and no one confides in me except for my best friends, oops.

But I don't mind it cause other people's problems drain the life outta me. I have my fair share of issues to deal with, already.


ETA: Usually people come to me for advice, though. It's like I have a vibe that says "I can fix your problem" (prob the Virgo/Chiron conj in Virgo). And.. that's when it gets tricky cause depending on my mood, I can be very compassionate and patient, or cold and too rational. I think that's what puts people off most of the time. Idk maybe some of them enjoy my honesty. I know my best friend, who's a Taurus, always appreciates my bluntness. So I'm not afraid to tell her frankly what I think about a certain subject and suggest a practical way of fixing a problem.

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posted December 06, 2012 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I actually think “confide in me” natal positions are more Virgo/Pisces placements than Scorpio.

Pisces energy is really non-judgmental too and is a “let loose and let be” energy that may not offer much solutions, but a very good ear.


I feel this is a very accurate statement, I have my Pisces sun conjunct Mars and mercury in the 8th house. I am your regular agony aunt!! I dont know how you feel but I find it can become tiresome at times. I have become so internalised and self reliant that I dont know how to ask for help even if i needed to. I feel that people are only really interested in me as long as I am listening to them. I have attempted to discuss something that was personal to me but am normally met with "oh you're strong, you'll be fine" End of conversation.

Nothing, but nothing shocks me. Sometimes it almost concerns me how unshockable I am.

On the back of that, I recently began training to become a Psychiatric Nurse, I'm on a break period at the moment and am debating whether to continue in that field of nursing or change braches to a more practical field (which in all honesty, i prefer)

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posted December 06, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maelstrom
I feel this is a very accurate statement, I have my Pisces sun conjunct Mars and mercury in the 8th house. I am your regular agony aunt!! I dont know how you feel but I find it can become tiresome at times. I have become so internalised and self reliant that I dont know how to ask for help even if i needed to. I feel that people are only really interested in me as long as I am listening to them. I have attempted to discuss something that was personal to me but am normally met with "oh you're strong, you'll be fine" End of conversation.

Nothing, but nothing shocks me. Sometimes it almost concerns me how unshockable I am.

On the back of that, I recently began training to become a Psychiatric Nurse, I'm on a break period at the moment and am debating whether to continue in that field of nursing or change braches to a more practical field (which in all honesty, i prefer)

With Mars supporting the Sun in Pisces, there is usually an innate “calling” to help others; often in the “behind the scenes” sense (unless both are found in the 1st or 10th house).
As I said earlier, Pisces energy is often non-judgmental and receptive. But as been earlier stated by another Lindaland Knowflake, it is not always the case(I get that).

I can imagine how exhausting it must be to absorb everyone else’s problems.

But I think a more pertinent question would be; do you gain some satisfaction from being able to be the “receptor” of other people’s stuff? And how do you rid yourself of so much negative energy? Meditation? Prayer?

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