posted February 13, 2017 03:31 AM            

We have a nasty relationship at first.

After 4 years I've known him, he starts changing his behavior. He starts listening genuinely, cares/worries a lot to my health (I was hospitalized at the beginning of this year and still in medication to the next six months), less defensive, starts showing how much he loves, cares, and randomly talk about the future more often. He also starts assured me that no other woman anymore.

The strange thing is, I feel anxious about this whole changing behavior since at first he looked like faking it (not genuine) which I called him out about it when he pushed me then he came back again after a month and look more genuine than before entering this year.

posted February 13, 2017 04:46 AM            

The only way I would tell if hes genuine is to see if he's made any changes which don't include you.

Has his work and home environment changed or improved?

The reason why I say that gemini is somewhat sensitive to the environment there in.

So if there is positive change in his environment it might be genuine.

posted February 13, 2017 08:35 AM            

Has his work and home environment changed or improved?

To be honest, I do not really know about it because he still hides our relationship from his family and his friends. Although the first two months of the relationship he introduced me to his parents and some of his friends. Last new year he asked me to meet his family but I was out of the city to spend time with my family - he still lives with his parents.

Everytime I asked about his family and his friends, he always said nothing special. If I asked more, he started being so offensive. This year he is not so offensive anymore but still seems keeping some story with him.

He is very secretive (also not the most honest person) and it is strange for what my expectation from a sag moon - his draconic is a scorp moon though.

The only thing I know about him is about his work (because he's always grumpy about it). He is so fickle with job and still changes his mind frequently. Recently he left his newly job again because he wanted to join a company where more women worked with him. He asked my permission and made me promise to let him be him. I didn't have any choice because the last time he asked my permission and I told him my concern, he sulked by guilt trip me when his job was not doing well.

The only thing I notice he starts thinking how to make more money to the future. Because he always talks about it although it's not very clear - mercury in cancer?

posted February 13, 2017 08:50 AM            

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posted February 13, 2017 08:58 AM            

Moon in Sagittarius.

Moon opposite Venus in Taurus.

I don't know his birth time, so these aspect could or couldn't be applied:

- Moon conjunct saturn, wide orb
- Moon semisextile pluto
- Moon semisextile neptune
- Moon sesquiquadrate jupiter
- Moon bi-Quintile mars
- Moon bi-Quintile mercury

posted February 13, 2017 09:22 AM            

He has mercury/mars opposite neptune.

Sometimes I feel like he lives in his head back and forth. Seems like lost too, I mean, his mind is floating.

I see the other one of his dual sign is being a scorpio, or cancer?, because he always gives me silent treatment for a month or two months then come back. The first two years the reason he came back because he saw me started doing well without him, after I accepted him, he tortured me again emotionally. I feel like it was a punishment but he refused to leave me alone.

posted February 13, 2017 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Is it possible? Will it be only temporary?

We have a nasty relationship at first.

After 4 years I've known him, he starts changing his behavior. He starts listening genuinely, cares/worries a lot to my health (I was hospitalized at the beginning of this year and still in medication to the next six months), less defensive, starts showing how much he loves, cares, and randomly talk about the future more often. He also starts assured me that no other woman anymore.

The strange thing is, I feel anxious about this whole changing behavior since at first he looked like faking it (not genuine) which I called him out about it when he pushed me then he came back again after a month and look more genuine than before entering this year.

This year, his solar return has moon conjunct saturn exact, I am the same but have wide orb in 12th house. Does this indicate his changing behavior from the Evil one to the realization of his past behavior and thinking to be more serious?

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posted February 13, 2017 10:10 AM            

Oh well, thank you Hemilia, yes, I am worried, since I feel like I have already waste my 4 years dealing with mind games and I do not want waste another year with crazy stuff anymore.

The question is, how long a Gemini can set his mind? I've known him for 4 years and his mind is always changing. He also has a hard time to make up his mind. One day he seems stubborn about one thing, the next day he changes his mind.

I'm worried this is only his way to make me stay longer because I have told him I don't care anymore about the relationship and ready to leave any time I want to.

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posted February 13, 2017 10:34 AM            

The Moon is the deepest heart of the person, H.

Yes, it is. But doesn't it only show when those people are alone which means only he and God know what the feelings are?

posted February 13, 2017 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:

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The question is, how long a Gemini can set his mind? I've known him for 4 years and his mind is always changing. He also has a hard time to make up his mind. One day he seems stubborn about one thing, the next day he changes his mind.

I'm worried this is only his way to make me stay longer because I have told him I don't care anymore about the relationship and ready to leave any time I want to.

I've read somewhere moon/venus people are people pleaser (so most of the time they fake their reactions) and can use it to get what they want? So, yeah, I don't know what he wants from me but I am worried with his changing behavior if it is genuine or not.

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Funny, thats one of the reasons why I like Aquarians and I am really close friends to one.

I will draw up all possible scenarios and outcomes and then struggle to stick to one, its the Aquarian that makes me stick to one.

Helps me from changing my mind a bit...

I pretty much say everything and anything to my Aquarius female friend both good and bad.

I know it sounds obvious, If he's not open in the first place or you can't trust him.....things will never work out to begin with.

I would just leave him until he really does prove it. If he does you will know.

posted February 13, 2017 11:56 AM            

At first he didn't like to talk a lot. He only listened and giggled. Most of the time I was the one who talked a lot and opened up first because I got bored. It turned out he used those information to turn it against me and tortured me emotionally. I felt most betrayed on how he was emotionally manipulative and stabbed me with my personal story.

He started to talk a lot this past year. From the unimportant thing to the important but his. He once told me he liked spending time with me because he could tell me about anything and I could keep up with him and also because I talked a lot too about anything that interested him and made him to think.

Yes, I have trust issue with him. I left him several times and chose to take alone time instead looking for new person/relationship like him, but he always came back when I almost had my peace.

Actually my sister has been called and asked him to leave me alone and he should find another girl while telling him my world went upside down after I met him - I think he got touched by my sister story about me who he wrongfully judged for all this time - when I was hospitalized. I am outpatient, he comes back and I've seen his behavior changing into more serious (not like a Capricorn seriousness) about where he wants the relationship go and he told me he wanted a better job and money for the future and I should not worry about it and about him BUT I secretly feel anxious about the changing since he is changeable by nature.

posted February 13, 2017 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
@DualGemV2:

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Yes, I have trust issue with him. I left him several times and chose to take alone time instead looking for new person/relationship like him, but he always came back when I almost had my peace.

Actually my sister has been called and asked him to leave me alone and he should find another girl while telling him my world went upside down after I met him - I think he got touched by my sister story about me who he wrongfully judged for all this time - when I was hospitalized. I am outpatient, he comes back and I've seen his behavior changing into more serious (not like a Capricorn seriousness) about where he wants the relationship go and he told me he wanted a better job and money for the future and I should not worry about it and about him BUT I secretly feel anxious about the changing since he is changeable by nature.

Trust or should not trust?

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He sounds obsessive.

posted February 13, 2017 02:30 PM            

He sounds obsessive.

Sounds like it is strange for a Gemini sun act like this.

I'm like he either mimic someone's action in relationship or he just has extreme dual personality.

posted February 13, 2017 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
@AmiAnne:

[b]The Moon is the deepest heart of the person, H.

Yes, it is. But doesn't it only show when those people are alone which means only he and God know what the feelings are?

Since mercury is the way how we think, I thought we should not miss how mercury play along on how we take our decision to say something or take the actions. (correct me if I am wrong)[/B]

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YES. Mercury is very important, too, Heart!

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posted February 14, 2017 12:11 AM            

... trust your intuition.

My intuition comes on and off. When he's not around I feel like I should leave him completely and stop wasting my time. When he's around, I mean, when we're together and it is good, it is sooooo good.

posted February 18, 2017 06:35 PM            

I really love Gemini's good side but unfortunately the bad side is tearing me apart.

He's still who he is, I have found out he's still lying about what, where, and when he is about. I blew up and he said, "who is the stupid one? Who is the idiot?"

He seems shocked (because it was a rare moment he let me finish my word in a heat) when he heard I said, "ME. For all these years, it is ME who is stupid and the idiot, who still stay when you treats me like a garbage, who still stay even though I know you are cheating several times, who still stay without looking at from where you are (because we are completely from different world). You know what idiot is? It is ME." He quickly responded, "Then why are you still want to continue the relationship if you already knew all?"

Geez, I feel like I waste a lot of tears already. 😢 When I said it was him who always came back, he laughed and said he didn't. The fact is, he came back only wanted to test the water, he saw me still friendly to him and he thought I wanted him, so in his mind I was the one who wanted the relationship and he submitted. I felt really hurt.

posted February 18, 2017 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
An update...

I really love Gemini's good side but unfortunately the bad side is tearing me apart.

He's still who he is, I have found out he's still lying about what, where, and when he is about. I blew up and he said, "who is the stupid one? Who is the idiot?"

He seems shocked (because it was a rare moment he let me finish my word in a heat) when he heard I said, "ME. For all these years, it is ME who is stupid and the idiot, who still stay when you treats me like a garbage, who still stay even though I know you are cheating several times, who still stay without looking at from where you are (because we are completely from different world). You know what idiot is? It is ME." He quickly responded, "Then why are you still want to continue the relationship if you already knew all?"

Geez, I feel like I waste a lot of tears already. 😢 When I said it was him who always came back, he laughed and said he didn't. The fact is, he came back only wanted to test the water, he saw me still friendly to him and he thought I wanted him, so in his mind I was the one who wanted the relationship and he submitted. I felt really hurt.

Please, sending me a good energy to heal.. I feel like a failure right now..

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Frankly, I don't think you did anything wrong. Hearttreasure you sound like a sweet and gentle person you didn't need him to give you more problems.

posted February 20, 2017 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Frankly, I don't think you did anything wrong. Hearttreasure you sound like a sweet and gentle person you didn't need him to give you more problems.

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Thank you but, no, I'm definitely wrong. I should completely cut ties and not so forgiving (I was always friendly after the break up).

Since the last two years I'm at the bottom of life. I should not care too much that I let the problem I have in relationship eats my soul - spiritually, physically, and emotionally. This is the first time I try to be vulnerable in relationship because I think I could safe it. It ends up the stupid decision I've ever made.

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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I'm all for personal growth, but this guy's behaviour is abusive. He is playing mind games. And he pushed you? I would cut this guy loose so fast.

You deserve so much more. Don't waste your time with someone who doesn't offer you their best. Don't waste your time with someone who would hurt you like this.

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He always pushes me everytime we're in argument mostly about his lying/his words doesn't match with his actions/the factual info I've got. He will never admit that he was wrong so he will push me. I feel like he forces me to only have fun in relationship and avoid the responsibility/the hard time in relationship.

I know what his doing is abusive, because sometimes he is like a narcissistic and selfish person I've known. Insensitive and take the fun in relationship for granted. But the changeable nature of him sometimes makes him also the sweetest person.

It's definitely not the easiest to move on because I have isolated my world because his jealousy and insecurity of my social life and the constant on-off.

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I was with a Gemini man like this for 3 years, he eventually ran off and married another woman he had known from childhood. He lost me when he married her, my pride and ego just couldn't take no more. I will always love him and wish the best for him. We managed to remain fairly good friends and still laugh and joke to this day.

I am a Cancer sun, libra moon, gemini venus and mars. He is a Gemini sun and moon with a cancer mars and venus.

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This Gemini sun also has mars in cancer, and, yes, I've seen he is keeping his childhood/old friend close to him and he was caught hitting hard one of them while we're in relationship. He denied all but my instinct telling me he will keep her for the future. He then started to protect all his friend.