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Freesia
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posted April 13, 2014 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this belongs to Asteroids, but I think here are more people aswering and I just need to have some advice from aside...

There is a man.
His BML and KARMA conjuncts my ASC&SUN (in Scorpio) - am I his destinned woman? for good or bad...

My Karma conjuncts his Saturn in my 8th house

My Dejanira conjuncts his Sun

All conjunctions are exact (less than 1 degree).
We have some other interesting aspects like exact Moon&Psyche, Neptune&Psyche, also Sun&Saturn DW. His Venus conjuncts my Desc (6degrees orb).

What else should I look for to make a decision to run or stay? Now I feel attracted and magnetised at the same time...

What do you think? Is it for good or bad?

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manderin
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posted April 13, 2014 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe in astroid astrology so I have no idea.

If you like, I can run your chart synastry through my program and see what comes up. If so please leave yours and his birth info.

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Freesia
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posted April 13, 2014 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by manderin:
I don't believe in astroid astrology so I have no idea.

If you like, I can run your chart synastry through my program and see what comes up. If so please leave yours and his birth info.


I don't know his time of birth If your programm gives smtg out without BOT, can I send data to a mail (not to do it in public)?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 13, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does seem like a karmic encounter,Karma on Saturn in 8th is very strong, Sun, ASC on Karma, planets on angles. But these aspects alone don't say if it's going to be a love relationship or just an important relationships with lessons to be learned.

For a good love synastry, you need: love house rulers aspected; several love aspects (romantic and erotic) between luminaries, Venus, Mars, Mercury, outers too, and at least 2 DW. Sun/Saturn points to longevity or karmic lessons to be learned.

But it all depends on the needs each person has, which is shown in the natal chart.

In the composite, you need Sun or Moon or at least Venus to Saturn (any aspect) for a consolidated relationship.

Look for major aspects between love planets in synastry to see if it's love or something else. Only after you see that, you can proceed to asteroids.

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posted April 13, 2014 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Freesia
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posted April 13, 2014 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@manderin
Thank you so much

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posted April 13, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo2014
Thank you!
I looked to our composite.
Saturn aspects Mercury (opposition), Mars (inconjunct) and Jupiter (square). All up to 0-2 degrees orb.

Composite Sun makes semisextile to Venus and Neptune and square to Pluto. Mars trine Jupiter.

Synastry - Venus & Sun DW (his Venus opposite my Sun, my Venus trines his Sun)
My Moon opposite his Sun
My Venus opposite his Mars
My Mars inconjunct his Venus
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posted April 13, 2014 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the report. You are A and your boyfriend is P. Since you don't have his birthtime any aspects to his ascendant should be ignored. Aspects to his moon shouldn't be ignored entirely, but know that they may not be as valid as the report suggests. (Edited to add the following)- It looks like his Venus is right on your descendant which is a sign that you could fall deeply in love with him.

REPORT

A's Moon is Trine P's Mars (Orb 5°57')
This combination of planets denotes a relationship that is exciting and animated. A and P's discussions are lively and impassioned and their shared pastimes are also likely to be energetic and fun. A and P enjoy spontaneity and both tend to be impulsive when together. Both of them feel that their lives have become more effervescent with the advent of this relationship. A is most likely to feel that P brings excitement into her life. A is aware that P's drive and energy contributes positively to her life. Whereas P feels inspired by the relationship to achieve his goals. P acknowledges that A's support and understanding is helping him to advance in life. There is also likely to be a strong sexual attraction that helps to add a little spice to life. However, this sexual attraction is most powerful when both A and P are feeling comfortable within the association. The attraction can lose its spark when there is emotional tension. Fortunately, this does not happen often. A and P are mostly able to resolve their differences and enjoy an enlivened and satisfying union.

A's Moon is Sextile P's Ascendant (Orb 6°29')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case A's Moon is combining with P's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. A and P feel strongly drawn to each other, enjoying a strong and loving bond. This relationship satisfies the emotional needs of A, who feels comforted by relating to P. A gains new insights about herself and relating through her association with P. In turn P is attracted to A's willingness to be vulnerable and loving, and feels supported by this union. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

A's Moon is Opposite P's Sun (Orb 4°28')
'Opposites attract' could the theme for this combination of personal planets. There is an instant spark when A and P meet, whether they choose to enjoy a friendship or a more intimate relationship. The world seems more exciting when they are together. When together A and P are able to broaden their horizons in ways they had not thought possible. Each one seems to fill a void deep inside the other. In astrology it is considered important to have a combination of personal planets in order to enjoy a deep relationship, but this can be a difficult combination once the initial excitement has worn off. Friction easily arises and what was once attractive becomes irritating. The success of this relationship largely depends on each person's ability to accept the other person's differences. P may eventually have difficulty understanding A's emotional nature. P may feel impatient and frustrated by the limitations placed on him by A. A may feel overwhelmed by P's personality. The initial excitement of the association with someone so opposing in nature may be replaced by feelings of insecurity. It's important for both A and P to continue to appreciate each other's differences at all times and to realise that this relationship is potentially very rewarding if the difficulties can be faced and resolutions found.

P's Sun is Trine A's Mercury (Orb 6°53')
The importance of communication in relationships cannot be emphasised enough. Without understanding of another person's point of view and the ability to communicate one's own thoughts and feelings a relationship can easily break down. This is an ideal combination for harmonious communications in a relationship. P and A are able to communicate with ease, understanding how the other person thinks and sharing many of the same opinions. On the occasions when P and A do disagree, they do so with a respect for each other's point of view. P and A enjoy learning from each other and may take part in a shared activity or pastime from which they both learn about themselves and life. Both P and A enjoy listening to each other, as well as talking. They may also enjoy writing notes to each other. Together they learn a greater understanding of each other and themselves. P has a great respect for A's intellectual prowess and may even help her to develop her mental skills. P knows that A helps him to shine more in his own life through the intellectual stimulation that comes from this relationship. In response A knows that P's sunny personality stimulates her and that she is appreciated. P helps her to grow in her awareness of the world.

A's Sun is Trine P's Ascendant (Orb 1°25')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case A's Sun is combining with P's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. A and P feel strongly drawn to each other, experiencing a sense of completeness in each other's company. A can really shine through her association with P. She appreciates the benefits that this union brings into her life and the way in which P helps her achieve her personal goals. In turn P has a greater sense of well-being through his association with A. He welcomes the sunnier aspects of A's personality and appreciates their mutual respect and affection. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

A's Sun is Opposite P's Venus (Orb 7°38')
This combination of the Sun and the personal planet Venus in relationship astrology is a difficult one. It indicates that the two people have conflicting values when it comes to personal relationships, which creates problems for any long-term association. A and P feel a strong attraction to each other, but they cannot seem to communicate in a harmonious manner. Joint decisions about relationships are difficult. A and P argue about subjects such as the future of their relationship, family associations, money matters and creative pastimes. They just can't seem to agree. A feels frustrated. On the one hand A is drawn to P. On the other hand A knows that she is losing her identity in this relationship, and is often floundering to express herself. P is also frustrated. He feels overwhelmed by A's powerful personality and is unable to get on with his creative pursuits. Neither A nor P really feels that they are benefiting from this union, and yet they feel drawn to try to resolve the problems. Depending on other connections in this relationship A and P may finally decide to end their association or they could resolve their differences. They may need to seek counsel on how to resolve their differences.

P's Mercury is Trine A's Venus (Orb 4°46')
The combination of the personal planets of Mercury and Venus is a desirable one for an intimate union, and certainly advantageous to any association which requires harmony and collaboration. P and A enjoy each other's company, finding it easy to co-operate and share their experiences. They are compatible. Conversation has an easy flow and pastimes are fun, free of the restraints that sometimes hamper clear communication. P and A share an appreciation of the arts, perhaps even partaking in a joint creative or artistic activity. Discussions are harmonious because P and A are so often in agreement, including money. They concur on how money is saved and spent and enjoyed. P and A value the intellectual stimulation provided by each other. P, in particular, experiences mental inspiration from his association with A. Perhaps A is P's muse in some form of the arts. P gains confidence in his opinions and ideas as a result of his relationship with A. In return A appreciates P's intellect. A feels able to relax within this relationship knowing that P encourages rather than criticises her.

P's Mercury is Trine A's Mars (Orb 0°07')
There is an instant spark of attraction when P and A first meet, and this continues during the course of the relationship. The spark is likely to be an intellectual one, which may or may not result in a sexual attraction. P and A are stimulated by each other's company, enjoying lively conversations and energetic activities. Both P and A learn much from each other and enjoy facing challenges together which in turn help them to move forward in their own lives. This combination of the planets Mercury and Mars is ideal for any working association, which requires co-operation and drive in order to complete a challenging project. However, it can also be beneficial for personal relationships involving individuals who enjoy change and challenge. P is challenged to use his wits in this relationship. A's drive and determination force P to clarify his thoughts and opinions. P is likely to find this aspect of the relationship exciting. In turn A enjoys P's intellectual input which helps her achieve her personal goals. Together P and A may dare to take risks in their lives which lead to adventures that might otherwise have been missed.

A's Mercury is Opposite P's Mars (Orb 5°24')
A feisty relationship is the result of this combination of the planets Mercury and Mars. When A and P are together the sparks fly. The nature of these sparks depends on other aspects of the relationship. On the one hand A and P may be positively stimulated by each other's company, enjoying lively conversations and energetic activities. Both A and P learn much from each other and may enjoy facing challenges together which in turn help them to move forward in their own lives. However, it is more likely that this combination indicates a combustive reaction when A and P are together. The relationship is likely to be fraught with misunderstandings and angry reactions. In particular P is aggressive, perhaps even trying to bully A to do things his way. P honestly believes that he knows what is right for A and energetically sets about trying to achieve his goals. However, A resents these tactics and becomes critical of everything that P does. There seems to be no middle ground and tempers are frayed. A is usually able to have the last word, but P knows how to act in a way that is guaranteed to escalate any argument. Of course there is always the possibility that both A and P enjoy the drama of this relationship. However, if this is not the case then the lesson is to learn to respect each other's differences and to channel all of the energy created by this partnership into positive activities and lively discussions.

A's Venus is Opposite P's Mars (Orb 6°42')
This is a strong combination for a love union because it creates an intense sexual attraction. The durability and nature of the relationship depends on other connections between A and P. Desire is strong, perhaps too strong at times in this relationship. A and P are likely to fall in love at first sight enjoying a passionate union, the type of love affair featured in romance novels. At first both A and P enjoy the intense physical nature of the union, but as time goes on the flames seem to burn too strongly. P begins to feel possessive and perhaps somewhat obsessive, eager to maintain the force of passion. A feels overwhelmed by the passion of the romance and the force of P's nature, and is in danger of becoming repulsed rather than attracted to P. As a result the relationship becomes a combat zone. A and P start to compete rather than co-operate. The positive side of the relationship is the strong attraction felt by both A and P. However, it is important for both A and P to learn to temper their desires in this union. They need to remain focused on co-operation and communication in order to keep an appropriate balance in the partnership. While this combination is often found between marriage or sexual partners, it can also be encountered in friendships or work associations which involve working on an artistic project. However, it is important that both individuals remain focused on the creative project at hand because a sexual flirtation could easily get out of control.

Primary Forces

In addition to the intimate aspect of a relationship, there are usually a number of fundamental driving forces, which can be either major challenges or inspirations to the individuals involved. This section looks at how A and P stimulate and provoke each other.

A's Moon is Trine P's Jupiter (Orb 4°08')
This is a positive combination for any relationship enabling A and P to overcome any obstacles in life and embrace the happiness of the present moment. A and P enjoy each other's company and feel a certain zest for life when together. They share a need for fun-filled adventures and the capability of achieving their goals. A and P feel that the world is their oyster that is ready to explore together. This can include holidays in far-away places, adventure travel and also encompasses any activity that expands their minds and views of life. This is a meeting of higher-minds. A feels that P expands her horizons. A feels safe and appreciated in this relationship. P knows that A is a comrade in arms when it comes to fun and adventure. P feels that he is truly appreciated for his generosity and optimism. Together A and P can conquer the world. Nothing seems too far-fetched. This combination augurs well for a long lasting and happy relationship.

P's Moon is Sextile A's Neptune (Orb 2°40')
Romance is a major theme in a union which involves the Moon and the planet Neptune. With this combination of planets P and A both feel that they are meant to be together. Perhaps they believe that it is a union of their souls. This is the height of romantic love. P and A intuitively understand each other and as a result their relationship proceeds from the start in a gentle and loving manner. They may simply enjoy relaxing in each other's company or together P and A may enjoy creative and harmonious pastimes which enhance their union bringing joy and fulfilment. They could work jointly on an artistic, musical or spiritual project, or simply share an inspirational hobby. Either way, they are drawn to each other in a way that is not logical. At times they may even feel as though they have a psychic connection. P feels inspired by A to the point of longing to be in A's company. A intuitively understands P's emotional needs and relates to P in a caring manner. This is a harmonious relationship. Problems can occur if P becomes overly dependent on A. However, on the whole it augurs well for a personal relationship which thrives on mutual love and understanding.

P's Moon is Conjunct A's Pluto (Orb 1°53')
This is an intense and powerful relationship. P and A feel a strong attraction to each other, one that seems to constantly draw them together. Sexual attraction may be powerful. P's and A's deep feelings for each other need to be nurtured in a loving manner in order for the union to be long lasting. This relationship can be a positive or a negative experience, depending on how P and A handle intense feelings. Some individuals thrive on intensity, while others feel threatened and powerless. P is likely to feel that A has transformed his life in some way. It's possible that A has changed the way that P feels about the world, making him conscious of things that have been bubbling under the surface for a long time. Life is not the same for P once he encounters A. P is able to see through the explosive behaviour to the true heart of A and to nurture A's goodness in ways that she has not previously encountered. As a result A deeply appreciates the emotional support offered by P. This is indeed a passionate union.

A's Moon is Square P's Saturn (Orb 7°53')
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Moon is important, enabling the relationship to be long lasting. However, this can also be a difficult connection. A and P can both suffer from feelings of discontent and insecurity within this union. They work hard to cover up their sense that some emotional warmth is lacking, but there are times when they despair of getting their needs met. A feels this lack of emotional warmth keenly. It is difficult for her to relax and feel truly appreciated in this relationship. P brings a certain coldness to the union, finding it difficult to generate emotional warmth. P may feel that his attempts at intimacy are misunderstood and met with an overly-emotional reaction from A. Much work needs to be done in order to understand each other. On a positive note this combination of planets can indicate a committed to resolve difficulties. Therefore A and P have the strong possibility of being able to stay in this relationship on a long-term basis and reap the rewards of a stable and secure union. A satisfying relationship can result from A's and P's patience and persistence.

A's Moon is Square P's Neptune (Orb 3°10')
Romance is a major theme in a union that involves the Moon and the planet Neptune. With this combination of planets A and P both feel that they are meant to be together. Perhaps they believe that it is a union of their souls. This is the height of romantic love. However, with romantic love there is always the possibility of disillusionment. A and P are likely to stumble across obstacles in this relationship because of unrealistic and overly idealistic expectations of each other. It is difficult for them to maintain the heights of love first attained at the beginning of the relationship. Misunderstandings can easily arise. After the first flush of love A feels that her emotional needs are being ignored, that P does not understand her. It is even possible that A feels that P is being deceptive in some manner. There is a danger that P does feel the need to hide behind a facade, failing to be his true self. Perhaps P feels that he cannot live up to A's expectations. Despair within this relationship needs to be avoided by both A and P facing their feelings of loss in previous relationships. They need to face the problems honestly in order to avoid the breakdown of trust and ultimately the relationship. As a result A and P may be able to recapture their sense of belonging together which was so strong in the initial stages of their union.

A's Sun is Sextile P's Jupiter (Orb 0°55')
The Sun and the favourable planet Jupiter are combining suggesting that this relationship is blessed with good fortune and happiness. It is an ideal combination for an intimate relationship such as marriage because it indicates shared philosophies on life and the ability to grow together. Together A and P land on their feet no matter how difficult a situation. They seem destined to be in the right place at the right time. A and P enjoy each other's company, feeling all of the benefits that come with this union. Their optimism and enthusiasm are infectious, and as a couple they are popular. In particular A shines as a result of her association with P. A feels able to embrace life and all it has to offer. She is aware that her union with P is truly blessed and that it helps her to achieve her full potential. P knows that his horizons are continually expanding through his association with A. P feels able to conquer the world. In fact it is likely that both A and P enjoy travelling, studying or teaching together. They enjoy sharing anything that expands their minds and contributes positively to their lives.

P's Sun is Trine A's Uranus (Orb 2°54')
This is a relationship full of verve and romance. P and A are attracted to each other from the moment that they first meet and continue to experience excitement and joy in each other's company. The relationship brings something new and original into P's and A's lives and they both feel enlivened as a result. Life becomes more of an adventure when P and A are together. Their relationship may run a somewhat erratic or unorthodox course, but P and A are both happy in the knowledge that theirs is a unique union. P is excited by A's creativity, which somehow enhances his personal goals. A helps P to see life in a new and different manner, freeing P from past inhibitions. A knows that she has encountered someone who truly appreciates her as an individual. A can better express her original thoughts and ideas as a result of her relationship with P. Together P and A may explore an unusual hobby or pastime such as new technology, metaphysics, science, electronics, humanitarian or environmental concerns.

P's Sun is Sextile A's Chiron (Orb 5°24')
This is a life-changing relationship that results in both P and A being presented with opportunities to heal past wounds in order that they may live fuller and richer lives. Together they enjoy a sense of liberation that comes from truly loving another person. A is more likely to take the role of teacher or healer, having a significant effect on P's life choices. In this role A is also challenged to take a long, hard look at herself before imparting her wisdom. The adage "physician heal thyself" could be a theme for A. In return P learns much from A's experiences and insights, perhaps even discovering his true-life purpose. This is true for intimate relationships, and also for student-teacher and patient-healer liaisons. Either way this can be a gentle, loving union based on mutual respect and compassion.

P's Sun is Opposite A's Saturn (Orb 1°59')
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Sun is important, providing the cement for a long-lasting relationship. In other words, a serious planet is needed for a serious, meaningful union such as marriage. It is certainly true that the combination of the Sun and Saturn is found in many meaningful relationships. However, the planet Saturn can also cause problems. Certainly this combination indicates that P and A both view this as a serious association, whether it is a marriage, friendship or a working partnership. Both P and A are committed to their association. It is likely that they experienced a strong attraction in the initial stages of their relationship. When P and A first met they each knew they had discovered a potential serious relationship, one to which they could commit and build on over a lifetime. If they believe in reincarnation, then it is likely that they felt a karmic attraction when they first met. Perhaps this was a moment of recognition when they first looked into the other person's eyes. However, the very qualities, which they seriously considered as attractive in the initial stages of the relationship, can become the source of friction if they are not careful. In particular, A needs to be wary of becoming too critical and judgmental. Initially A found P's personality traits to be worthy of a committed union. She admired P's qualities as complementing her own. However, it is easy for A to forget this attraction. As the relationship develops she feels threatened by the force of P's personality and takes a superior attitude in defence. As a result P feels threatened, disliking the authoritarian side of A. If P is not careful his self-confidence is whittled away and the relationship becomes onerous. It is vital that both P and A work at developing a stable basis for communication and understanding in this relationship. If both P and A work at maintaining their own self-confidence as well as mutual respect then they have the makings for a very successful marriage or working relationship. Much of their success may depend on other supportive, positive connections between them.

P's Sun is Square A's Neptune (Orb 3°30')
Romance and love are central themes of this relationship between the Sun and the planet Neptune. This can suggest a romantic liaison in which both people are blessed with a sense of being with the right person at the right time, or it can mean a friendship that is based on a joint artistic project or spiritual interest. Perhaps they enjoy spending time in the natural surroundings of the beach or countryside. Either way P and A are likely to enjoy escaping from the harsher realities of life into a world of their own creation. However, problems can arise when P and A start to sacrifice their own personal needs for a misguided perception about what is good for the relationship. This behaviour can erode the creative component of the union and both P and A may lose their self-confidence and direction in life. It is possible that, together, they may turn to drugs, alcohol or even crime in their attempts to maintain the loosening threads of their union. In particular, P needs to be wary of losing his sense of self. It would be easy for P to be deceived by A either through his own need to believe in a dream or through A's behaviour. A needs to be wary of becoming secretive and dishonest within this association. As the relationship develops A may become confused about the true meaning of her bond with P leading to a need to hide her true feelings. On a more positive note, P and A may have other more positive connections in their relationship astrology that enables them to work through their problems in a loving and compassionate manner.

A's Sun is Square P's North Node (Orb 1°14')
Destiny plays a strong role in A and P's relationship. There is an instant attraction, a spark that ignites the feelings of both A and P. However, fate can be a cruel mistress. This relationship is fraught with problems that A and P find difficult to understand and solve. In particular P feels that her light is hidden under bushel. He struggles to express his true self. Perhaps P owes A a favour that seems never to be full repaid or may P has an inexplicable sense of responsibility for A. Whatever the scenario both A and P face certain challenges before reaching a full understanding of this union.

P's Mercury is Opposite A's North Node (Orb 0°20')
Good communication is the key to many successful relationships. This union between P and A is on the right track, despite a few disagreements along the way. There is a strong bond, which is likely to be intellectual rather than emotional. Perhaps P and A have a common interest or friend, something that links them. Both P and A believe that fate has played a hand in bringing them together, but there are obstacles strewn in their path. They may hold different opinions on a variety of matters. In the long run they are happy to disagree, understanding each other's rights to hold different opinions. P and A spend much of their time together trying to sort out misapprehensions.

P's Mars is Trine A's Saturn (Orb 3°28')
Commitment is a central theme to this relationship. P and A are striving to build something concrete whether it be a future together or work project. Together they have the strength and wisdom to achieve a shared ambition. This is not a flighty association. Both P and A are aiming for a long-term and stable partnership. For this reason the union is likely to involve a contract, perhaps a business or marriage contract. There may also be a strong sense of destiny linked with this union. P contributes the drive and initiative and A possesses the stability and practical aptitude. P wants to move forward, inspiring A to overcome obstacles that stand in their path. P is full of enthusiasm, whereas A is more cautious. At times P pushes A forward. At others A restrains P, proving that there is wisdom in a slow but sure path. Together they achieve success in their joint enterprises in the long term.

P's Mars is Conjunct A's Chiron (Orb 6°53')
A common goal is needed in order the make the best of this combination of the planet Mars and Chiron. If P and A share the same drive and ambition then they can successfully overcome past failures and progress in their lives together. Together they bring an element of play and laughter into areas of their lives that were previously weighed down with pain and angst. Together their activities take on a new glow. They may share an interest in the healing arts or in teaching. A sometimes feels hurt that P does not offer the energy and drive needed to support her ventures. As the relationship develops more support may be offered. P appreciates A's insights and wisdom, which enable him to better achieve his goals.

A's Mars is Opposite P's Saturn (Orb 4°46')
This combination of the planets Mars and Saturn suggests a strong commitment in which A and P initially struggle to understand each other. On the one hand both A and P are committed to making this partnership work. On the other hand they face almost insurmountable difficulties along the way. Ancient astrologers consider the planets Mars and Saturn to have a harmful effect on humanity. Therefore this relationship needs to be treated with respect, to avoid causing emotional or physical damage to either A or P. The trouble is that they are both determined to force their own egos on to each other, and can be quite brutal in their efforts to get the other person to do as they wish. They need to develop understanding and respect for each other, if it does not already exist. Sometimes P tries to force his methods on to A, only to meet A's stubborn refusal to budge on certain matters. The challenge is a big one in this union. Both A and P need to carefully consider the future of this relationship, knowing that only mutual respect and caring communication can shine a light on their difficulties.

P's Mars is Opposite A's Uranus (Orb 1°25')
Sexual attraction plays a key role in this relationship. P and A find each other's company exciting both in and out of the bedroom. When P and A first meet they experience a thrill. However, it is difficult for P and A to maintain the excitement beyond the initial stages of the relationship. An initially challenging union quickly becomes frustrating as both P and A try to balance intimacy and independence. P is irritated by A's constant need for autonomy and her apparent lack of commitment. At first P finds A's independent spirit thrilling and arousing, but he soon becomes threatened and annoyed. A grows to dislike P's drive and determination, which she perceives as aggressive and arrogant. The challenge for P and A is to allow each other the freedom to follow their individual interests. These moments of separation may help alleviate the growing tension and re-ignite the positive sparks.

P's Jupiter is Trine A's Saturn (Orb 6°37')
A strong bond is formed as a result of this combination of the planets Jupiter and Saturn, in which both P and A learn a great deal from each other. In many ways P and A take an opposing approach to their relationship. P is more adventurous, keen to explore new territories. He takes a somewhat philosophical approach to this relationship. On the other hand A is cautious, often taking a slower and more practical outlook. Fortunately they enjoy these opposing qualities, finding equilibrium in their relationship. A finds her day enlivened by P's personality. In turn P enjoys having a stable and patient companion to bounce his ideas off. A learns much from P's wisdom, gaining a greater understanding of her own nature. Together P and A can achieve much success in either their personal lives or a joint project.

A's Jupiter is Trine P's Neptune (Orb 2°19')
This is a union of empathy and understanding, particularly in the areas of spiritual and religious beliefs. Both A and P understand and share each other's aspirations and dreams. At times their intuitive understanding of each other is so keen that they almost seem telepathically linked. It is possible that both A and P share a spiritual or religious conviction and belong to the same group or church. This may be a central force in their association. It is also possible that they take part in a philanthropic pursuit such as mission work in a foreign country or working for the same charitable organisation. Whatever the outlet for their beliefs, both A and P appreciate and enjoy each other's values, thus enabling them to better pursue a more altruistic path in life. A and P brighten each other's lives through their shared beliefs.

A's Jupiter is Trine P's Chiron (Orb 3°57')
A beneficial and joyful relationship is the result of this combination of the planet Jupiter and Chiron. A and P are able to close the door on problems and hurts from previous relationship and enter into this liaison with a sense of joy. Together they heal each other's emotional pain, gaining understanding and insights into relating. A and P have common values and teach each other the joy and comfort that comes with a responsive and understanding union. Together A and P enjoy exploring new territory, perhaps in the healing, spiritual or teaching faculties. A is a positive influence on this union, bringing an optimism and enthusiasm that is attractive and bountiful.

P's Jupiter is Sextile A's Ascendant (Orb 1°57')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case P's Jupiter is combining with A's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant relationship. P and A feel strongly drawn to each other, experiencing a sense of completeness in each other's company. P is enthusiastic about his relationship with A. He enjoys exploring new territories with A, perhaps even teaching A new experiences. He appreciates the benefits that this union brings into his life. In turn A has a greater sense of well-being through her association with P. She appreciates P's love of adventure and his attitude to this union. Together they share a mutual respect and affection. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship, teacher-student and work associations.

A's Jupiter is Opposite P's North Node (Orb 2°59')
On the whole this is a joyful union. A and P enjoy each other's company, both benefiting from the joy that is destined to enter their lives through this liaison. It is possible that A and P meet while traveling, at a place of higher learning, in a sports arena or through a philosophical or religious organisation. Together they enjoy exploring any or all of these avenues of joint interests. However, both A and P need to set sensible limits on this union and any project undertaken together. Otherwise they may go overboard in their enthusiasm, egging each other on and taking unnecessary risks.

Generational Values

Underpinning the success of many relationships is a sense of shared values. Often this comes from simply being born into the same generation. However, sometimes it is more complex. In this section we explore whether or not A and P share the same societal values.

P's Saturn is Trine A's North Node (Orb 4°19')
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. This is particularly true of connections between one person's Saturn and another person's Sun, Moon, Ascendant or Nodes. In this case P's Saturn is combining with A's Node indicating that this is a significant relationship. P and A feel strongly drawn to each other, perhaps experiencing a sense that their relationship was written in the stars. In other words they may feel as though they were destined to meet and form a union. This is a significant relationship.

P's Uranus is Sextile A's Neptune (Orb 1°13')
This combination of the planets Uranus and Neptune does not necessarily indicate a personal relationship, but rather an impersonal type of association. Either way, it is likely that life can be approached in a new and imaginative fashion for P and A as a result of this union. Together they stimulate growth and change in each other. P is particularly interested in keeping this association fresh and alive. He finds A's ideas and opinions intellectually stimulating, prompting his own creative ideas and shared activities. A's imagination is more to the fore in this relationship. She is able to express a more intuitive side of herself. Together P and A share insights and this encourages their ingenuity.

P's Uranus is Conjunct A's Pluto (Orb 0°26')
The combination of the planets Uranus and Pluto indicates that P and A share common values. A drive for growth and change is at the basis of this relationship, whether it be a personal or impersonal association. P and A complement each other whenever they join forces. P is likely to be the one who seeks answers and innovative ways of approaching tasks while A provides the answers after delving into her own personal resources.

A's Neptune is Trine P's Chiron (Orb 4°51')
The healing powers of nature, music and the arts may play a significant role in this union. A and P have a romantic and empathetic relationship, in which they both place importance on gentle and loving communication. As a result they are able to forgive and forget loved ones who have hurt them in the past, and move slowly towards a better understanding of their innermost selves and each other. The artistic and spiritual side of A's nature proves particularly healing for P. Under A's gentle influence, P is able to heal past emotional wounds and better express himself. Together they may take part in a spiritual, healing or artistic project.

A's Pluto is Opposite P's Chiron (Orb 5°38')
Personal growth is one theme in this relationship, but the path to greater understanding is not smooth. Both A and P have difficulty coping with the intensity of this relationship, which challenges them at a deeply personal level. Memories of emotionally painful moments in previous relationships are brought to the surface and need to be resolved so that this relationship can succeed. At times A and P fear the demands of this union may be too much. The challenge is for them both to forgive and forget the past and embrace the present and the future. They need to be willing to live life to the fullest, breaking free of habits or anything that hinders their progress in life. There may be a strong sense of destiny attached to this union, and A and P may be at the centre of organisations involved with spiritual matters, personal growth, medicine and medical breakthroughs.

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LeeLoo2014
Thank you!
I looked to our composite.
Saturn aspects Mercury (opposition), Mars (inconjunct) and Jupiter (square). All up to 0-2 degrees orb.

Composite Sun makes semisextile to Venus and Neptune and square to Pluto. Mars trine Jupiter.

Synastry - Venus & Sun DW (his Venus opposite my Sun, my Venus trines his Sun)
My Moon opposite his Sun
My Venus opposite his Mars
My Mars inconjunct his Venus
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Well, yes, this looks like a basic love synastry to me

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manderin, could you run mine too?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
manderin, could you run mine too?

Sure, I'll be here for a few more minutes so I've got time.

If you don't want to put the birth info here just send it to (deleted)

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Thanks a lot I'm sending it now.

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Here's the one for you LeeLoo, By the way could you delete the email address from your post? I deleted it from mine already after I got your birth info.


B's Moon is Sextile A's Sun (Orb 3°53')
This is an ideal combination for a close, personal relationship whether it be a close friendship or love relationship. B and A enjoy each other's company and feel that the other person is giving something special to the relationship. They have a lot in common and the ability to share enjoyable times together. A is likely to be the more dominant person in the relationship believing her identity and individuality are likely to be enhanced by the association. Perhaps A receives emotional support from B which contributes to a greater sense of being alive and an ability to achieve her personal goals. A may appreciate B's emotional insights. On the other hand B feels comforted by the relationship, perhaps playing a supportive role and offering emotional insights and comfort. Alternatively B may simply feel secure within the relationship, experiencing a sense of well being. This relationship provides B with a supportive base from which to explore life. Both B and A understand each other and enjoy an easy rapport, which augurs well for their association.

B's Moon is Sextile A's Ascendant (Orb 2°46')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case B's Moon is combining with A's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. B and A feel strongly drawn to each other, enjoying a strong and loving bond. This relationship satisfies the emotional needs of B, who feels comforted by relating to A. B gains new insights about himself and relating through his association with A. In turn A is attracted to B's willingness to be vulnerable and loving, and feels supported by this union. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

A's Moon is Square B's Moon (Orb 1°46')
This is a difficult combination for close, personal relationships whether they be friendships or love relationships. However it is not unusual to see a connection between two lovers' Moons. Emotional tensions can arise easily through misunderstandings. In the long term unresolved tension can lead to breakdowns in the relationship. Therefore it is important to resolve emotional problems rather than leave them in the hope that everything will turn out all right in the end. The problem is not a lack of care or love. In fact A and B can be very much in love and are often baffled as to why they just can't seem to feel secure within a loving relationship. The problem is that both A and B seek comfort and emotional satisfaction in different ways. This is where the misunderstandings arise. Perhaps one of them likes action in times of stress while the other likes to withdraw and ponder on the best path forward. Possibly one person wants to seek comfort in the arms of their loved one when faced with life's stresses, while the other wants to create some alone time. Whatever the manner in which A and B seek comfort it is likely to differ from each other. There is a positive side. This combination enables A and B to develop a better understanding of the each other, particularly if they can maintain a compassionate and understanding approach. It is also possible that other aspects of their personal charts mean that they enjoy a little spice in life. Perhaps a little tension is better than a void? If both people are committed to working through emotional problems this can lead to a satisfying and rewarding relationship.

A's Moon is Opposite B's Venus (Orb 6°58')
When planets combine unfavourably in personal relationships it can produce either sparks, which excite both parties, or friction. Either way a challenge is presented which needs to be met in order to succeed in the long term. With this combination A and B have difficulty expressing their feelings and often feel misunderstood by each other. A and B have trouble relaxing and feeling at ease with each other. There is a lack of harmony that troubles them. A and B sometimes feel that they are battling to find shared activities that they can both enjoy. In extreme cases they may feel that they are fighting against the other person's involvement with an absorbing pastime. Or perhaps they feel that their partner stands in the way of them really enjoying their own pleasurable pursuits. No matter how much A and B want to enjoy themselves, their partner seems to be standing in opposition, or determined to do their own thing. Depending on other aspects of their relationship and the nature of the combination of these planets, this can be a real problem. It's also likely that they have difficulty deciding how to save and spend their money. A is likely to feel some insecurity in the relationship. B is likely to feel that the A's feelings and insecurities are holding him back from relating to other people and the world in the way that he wants. On a more positive note this combination can add a spark to life and keep A and B willing to resolve difficulties to a satisfactory conclusion.

A's Sun is Conjunct B's Ascendant (Orb 7°55')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case A's Sun is combining with B's Ascendant indicating that this is a significant personal relationship. A and B feel strongly drawn to each other, experiencing a sense of completeness in each other's company. A can really shine through her association with B. She appreciates the benefits that this union brings into her life and the way in which B helps her achieve her personal goals. In turn B has a greater sense of well-being through his association with A. He welcomes the sunnier aspects of A's personality and appreciates their mutual respect and affection. While this combination is most likely to indicate an intimate love union, it can also augur well for friendships, family relationship and work associations.

A's Sun is Opposite B's Sun (Orb 1°20')
Any connection between two personal planets is considered auspicious in relationship astrology; however, difficult aspects can present a challenge. In this case the couple's Suns are making a difficult connection. On the one hand it is a positive sign that their Suns are connected. On the other hand A and B are presented with the challenge of overcoming some problems before experiencing the full rewards of this union. This is true whether they are forming a love relationship, friendship, family connection or working association. The major problem is one of rivalry. A and B experienced the instant attraction that comes with meeting someone different. They are poles apart in the way that they view the world. At first this seemed exciting, enticing and romantic. As times moves on, and the initial excitement wears off, they are presented with the obstacle of communicating with someone who views the world in a different manner. They are at cross-purposes and may resort to competing with each other, rather than co-operating. This can be frustrating, causing both A and B to sometimes feel as though they are 'hitting their heads against a brick wall,' as the saying goes. As long as there are other positive aspects in this relationship, both A and B are likely to overcome the obstacles and create a harmonious and loving relationship. However, they will both have to learn to 'walk a mile in someone else's moccasins'.

B's Sun is Opposite A's Mars (Orb 8°45')
This is a relationship that begins with a fanfare and ends with a bang. This fiery combination of the Sun and the planet Mars is a difficult one. Any relationship with this combination is likely to be difficult to maintain unless there are other more positive connections. There is much excitement when B and A first get together; an electric sexual energy pulsates between both of them. Both B and A feel a rush of energy when in each other's company. However, this quickly becomes friction because B and A are trying to head in different directions. Conflict is likely. The problem is that B feels overpowered by the demands of A, and unable to positively express himself in this union. The frustration can build to the point where B's attitude aggravates A. B feels that his personality is squashed by A. A is frustrated by the demands of B, feeling unable to pursue her goals. In the end the sexual attraction may fail to be enough to maintain a long-term intimate union. Depending on other connections in this relationship B and A may finally decide to end their association. They may need to seek counsel on how to resolve conflict, which at times could be quite fiery.

A's Mercury is Trine B's Venus (Orb 3°29')
The combination of the personal planets of Mercury and Venus is a desirable one for an intimate union, and certainly advantageous to any association which requires harmony and collaboration. A and B enjoy each other's company, finding it easy to co-operate and share their experiences. They are compatible. Conversation has an easy flow and pastimes are fun, free of the restraints that sometimes hamper clear communication. A and B share an appreciation of the arts, perhaps even partaking in a joint creative or artistic activity. Discussions are harmonious because A and B are so often in agreement, including money. They concur on how money is saved and spent and enjoyed. A and B value the intellectual stimulation provided by each other. A, in particular, experiences mental inspiration from her association with B. Perhaps B is A's muse in some form of the arts. A gains confidence in her opinions and ideas as a result of her relationship with B. In return B appreciates A's intellect. B feels able to relax within this relationship knowing that A encourages rather than criticises him.

A's Mercury is Trine B's Mars (Orb 3°46')
There is an instant spark of attraction when A and B first meet, and this continues during the course of the relationship. The spark is likely to be an intellectual one, which may or may not result in a sexual attraction. A and B are stimulated by each other's company, enjoying lively conversations and energetic activities. Both A and B learn much from each other and enjoy facing challenges together which in turn help them to move forward in their own lives. This combination of the planets Mercury and Mars is ideal for any working association, which requires co-operation and drive in order to complete a challenging project. However, it can also be beneficial for personal relationships involving individuals who enjoy change and challenge. A is challenged to use her wits in this relationship. B's drive and determination force A to clarify her thoughts and opinions. A is likely to find this aspect of the relationship exciting. In turn B enjoys A's intellectual input which helps him achieve his personal goals. Together A and B may dare to take risks in their lives which lead to adventures that might otherwise have been missed.

A's Venus is Square B's Mars (Orb 1°05')
This is a strong combination for a love union because it creates an intense sexual attraction. The durability and nature of the relationship depends on other connections between A and B. Desire is strong, perhaps too strong at times in this relationship. A and B are likely to fall in love at first sight enjoying a passionate union, the type of love affair featured in romance novels. At first both A and B enjoy the intense physical nature of the union, but as time goes on the flames seem to burn too strongly. B begins to feel possessive and perhaps somewhat obsessive, eager to maintain the force of passion. A feels overwhelmed by the passion of the romance and the force of B's nature, and is in danger of becoming repulsed rather than attracted to B. As a result the relationship becomes a combat zone. A and B start to compete rather than co-operate. The positive side of the relationship is the strong attraction felt by both A and B. However, it is important for both A and B to learn to temper their desires in this union. They need to remain focused on co-operation and communication in order to keep an appropriate balance in the partnership. While this combination is often found between marriage or sexual partners, it can also be encountered in friendships or work associations which involve working on an artistic project. However, it is important that both individuals remain focused on the creative project at hand because a sexual flirtation could easily get out of control.

A's Mars is Trine B's Mars (Orb 6°56')
This is a feisty relationship full of healthy competition and possibly sexual frisson. In this association both A and B are challenged to produce their best efforts. They feel the sparks fly when they are together, bringing out an ambitious side to both their natures. As friends or work colleagues they enjoy the rivalry, and it is always possible that their shared drive and energy could become sexual, tipping their relationship into a love affair. A and B enjoy energetic activities such as sports and outdoor games. Together they feel able to conquer the world and overcome all obstacles in their path. Depending on other aspects of their relationship A and B may be lovers or friends, but this strong influence of the planet Mars can also indicate a work partnership that requires plenty of drive and initiative.

A's Mars is Conjunct B's Ascendant (Orb 2°11')
It is significant in relationship astrology when one person's planet makes contact with the Ascendant in another person's chart. In this case A's Mars is combining with B's Ascendant making for a lively and energetic union. While it is most likely that this relationship is an intimate one, it can also indicate a friendship, family or work association. In most cases this combination is a positive one, but it can also denote a union in which conflict is difficult to resolve and as a result battles abound. On a positive note A provides the initiative to help B achieve his goals. B appreciates the drive and direction provided by A. Problems may arise when A turns her attention away from the relationship disappointing B with her lack of support. The challenge is for both A and B to keep this relationship moving in a positive direction through understanding and patience.

Primary Forces

In addition to the intimate aspect of a relationship, there are usually a number of fundamental driving forces, which can be either major challenges or inspirations to the individuals involved. This section looks at how A and B stimulate and provoke each other.

B's Moon is Trine A's Jupiter (Orb 4°37')
This is a positive combination for any relationship enabling B and A to overcome any obstacles in life and embrace the happiness of the present moment. B and A enjoy each other's company and feel a certain zest for life when together. They share a need for fun-filled adventures and the capability of achieving their goals. B and A feel that the world is their oyster that is ready to explore together. This can include holidays in far-away places, adventure travel and also encompasses any activity that expands their minds and views of life. This is a meeting of higher-minds. B feels that A expands his horizons. B feels safe and appreciated in this relationship. A knows that B is a comrade in arms when it comes to fun and adventure. A feels that she is truly appreciated for her generosity and optimism. Together B and A can conquer the world. Nothing seems too far-fetched. This combination augurs well for a long lasting and happy relationship.

B's Moon is Trine A's Saturn (Orb 0°22')
A connection between the planet Saturn and the Moon is important. Saturn is the planet of commitment and stability and is often found in relationships that are long lasting. In other words a serious planet such as Saturn is needed for a serious, meaningful union. B and A are satisfied with the relationship and are willing to persist through troubled times realising that the rewards are great. A satisfying long-term relationship results from their patience and persistence. Together B and A are somewhat reserved, perhaps even withdrawing a little from society to enjoy the benefits of their relationship. They are aware that their relationship is one of the most important building blocks in their lives. There is maturity in this relationship. Perhaps B and A have formed this relationship later in life when they can truly appreciate each other and the life that they are building together. B feels that A is offering security and maturity, enabling him to mature in his emotional and home life. A grows in self-esteem through this relationship, believing that B respects her integrity. On the whole this is a positive combination for an enduring, long-term relationship such as marriage.

A's Moon is Trine B's Neptune (Orb 5°05')
Romance is a major theme in a union which involves the Moon and the planet Neptune. With this combination of planets A and B both feel that they are meant to be together. Perhaps they believe that it is a union of their souls. This is the height of romantic love. A and B intuitively understand each other and as a result their relationship proceeds from the start in a gentle and loving manner. They may simply enjoy relaxing in each other's company or together A and B may enjoy creative and harmonious pastimes which enhance their union bringing joy and fulfilment. They could work jointly on an artistic, musical or spiritual project, or simply share an inspirational hobby. Either way, they are drawn to each other in a way that is not logical. At times they may even feel as though they have a psychic connection. A feels inspired by B to the point of longing to be in B's company. B intuitively understands A's emotional needs and relates to A in a caring manner. This is a harmonious relationship. Problems can occur if A becomes overly dependent on B. However, on the whole it augurs well for a personal relationship which thrives on mutual love and understanding.

A's Moon is Trine B's Chiron (Orb 3°59')
A and B have a gentle and loving relationship, which plays a significant role in their lives. They have an intuitive understanding of each other's needs, an empathy that sometimes seems to go beyond the bounds of human understanding. A feels that destiny has played a role in attracting B into her life. It is true that B has the capability of sensitively changing A's life, helping her satisfy previously unmet emotional needs. B may play a nurturing, healing or teaching role in this relationship. It is likely that A feels safe in this relationship. In turn A provides B with opportunities to discover new talents, particularly in the fields of teaching, or orthodox or unconventional medicine. This is likely to be a close, intimate relationship that helps both A and B weather life's troubles and discover joy.

B's Sun is Conjunct A's Jupiter (Orb 9°52')
The Sun and the favourable planet Jupiter are combining suggesting that this relationship is blessed with good fortune and happiness. It is an ideal combination for an intimate relationship such as marriage because it indicates shared philosophies on life and the ability to grow together. Together B and A land on their feet no matter how difficult a situation. They seem destined to be in the right place at the right time. B and A enjoy each other's company, feeling all of the benefits that come with this union. Their optimism and enthusiasm are infectious, and as a couple they are popular. In particular B shines as a result of his association with A. B feels able to embrace life and all it has to offer. He is aware that his union with A is truly blessed and that it helps him to achieve his full potential. A knows that her horizons are continually expanding through her association with B. A feels able to conquer the world. In fact it is likely that both B and A enjoy travelling, studying or teaching together. They enjoy sharing anything that expands their minds and contributes positively to their lives.

B's Sun is Trine A's Saturn (Orb 4°52')
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Sun is important, providing the cement for a long-lasting relationship. In other words a serious planet is needed for a serious, meaningful union such as marriage. It is certainly true that the combination of the Sun and Saturn is found in many, meaningful relationships. However, the harmful planet Saturn can also cause problems. The extent of the problems varies according to the astrological aspect. Certainly this combination indicates that B and A both view this as a serious association, whether it is a marriage, friendship or a working partnership. Both B and A are committed to their association. It is likely that they experienced a strong attraction in the initial stages of their relationship, and it is likely to be long lasting. When B and A first meet they each know they have discovered a potential serious relationship, one to which they can commit and build on over a lifetime. If they believe in reincarnation, then it is likely that they feel a karmic attraction, a moment of recognition when they first look into the other person's eyes. However, the very qualities, which they seriously considered as attractive in the initial stages of the relationship, can become the source of friction if they are not careful. In particular, A needs to be wary of becoming too critical and judgmental. Initially A found B's personality traits to be worthy of a committed union. She admired B's qualities as complementing her own. However, it is easy for A to forget this attraction. As the relationship develops she feels threatened by the force of B's personality and takes a superior attitude in defence. As a result B feels threatened, disliking the authoritarian side of A. If B is not careful his self-confidence is whittled away and the relationship becomes onerous. It is vital that both B and A work at developing a stable basis for communication and understanding in this relationship. If both B and A work at maintaining their own self-confidence as well as mutual respect then they have the makings for a very successful marriage or working relationship. If this is the case they both benefit from the stability offered by this union, growing in integrity in their own lives.

A's Sun is Square B's Saturn (Orb 7°33')
Many astrologers believe that a connection between the serious planet Saturn and a personal planet such as the Sun is important, providing the cement for a long-lasting relationship. In other words, a serious planet is needed for a serious, meaningful union such as marriage. It is certainly true that the combination of the Sun and Saturn is found in many meaningful relationships. However, the planet Saturn can also cause problems. Certainly this combination indicates that A and B both view this as a serious association, whether it is a marriage, friendship or a working partnership. Both A and B are committed to their association. It is likely that they experienced a strong attraction in the initial stages of their relationship. When A and B first met they each knew they had discovered a potential serious relationship, one to which they could commit and build on over a lifetime. If they believe in reincarnation, then it is likely that they felt a karmic attraction when they first met. Perhaps this was a moment of recognition when they first looked into the other person's eyes. However, the very qualities, which they seriously considered as attractive in the initial stages of the relationship, can become the source of friction if they are not careful. In particular, B needs to be wary of becoming too critical and judgmental. Initially B found A's personality traits to be worthy of a committed union. He admired A's qualities as complementing his own. However, it is easy for B to forget this attraction. As the relationship develops he feels threatened by the force of A's personality and takes a superior attitude in defence. As a result A feels threatened, disliking the authoritarian side of B. If A is not careful her self-confidence is whittled away and the relationship becomes onerous. It is vital that both A and B work at developing a stable basis for communication and understanding in this relationship. If both A and B work at maintaining their own self-confidence as well as mutual respect then they have the makings for a very successful marriage or working relationship. Much of their success may depend on other supportive, positive connections between them.

A's Sun is Square B's North Node (Orb 3°37')
Destiny plays a strong role in A and B's relationship. There is an instant attraction, a spark that ignites the feelings of both A and B. However, fate can be a cruel mistress. This relationship is fraught with problems that A and B find difficult to understand and solve. In particular B feels that her light is hidden under bushel. He struggles to express his true self. Perhaps B owes A a favour that seems never to be full repaid or may B has an inexplicable sense of responsibility for A. Whatever the scenario both A and B face certain challenges before reaching a full understanding of this union.

B's Mercury is Trine A's Uranus (Orb 1°41')
This is an exciting and unpredictable relationship. B and A enjoy a lively union, whether it be a romance, friendship or work association. They take pleasure in topical conversations, sparking new ideas and ways of thinking. They may also enjoy taking part in an unusual activity or pursuing an environmental, humanitarian or political cause. This combination of planets indicates intellectual, rather than emotional, stimulation. Consequently this combination may indicate a friendship or work association, rather than a more personal union. However, an intimate relationship with other aspects is enhanced by this combination if both partners enjoy freedom. B and A are excited by each other's minds. In particular B realises that A sparks his creativity. Both B and A enjoy a new-found sense of freedom in each other's company.

A's Mercury is Sextile B's Neptune (Orb 1°35')
This is an inspirational relationship whether it be a romance, friendship or a creative working partnership. Both A and B feel excited by this union. Their imaginations are enlivened. In particular A's ideas are encouraged by B's creative input, enabling her to better express herself. It's possible that they work together on a creative project. Communication has an easy flow, more intuitive than concrete. A and B establish an empathetic bond which enables them both to exchange their thoughts and feelings with ease. If involved in a romantic liaison then A and B are likely to feel very much in love, viewing their union through rose-coloured glasses. Whatever the nature of the relationship, it is likely that A and B share an interest in the arts, a spiritual path or a philanthropic activity.

A's Mercury is Conjunct B's Pluto (Orb 5°21')
An intense relationship is the result of this combination of the planets Mercury and Pluto, with communication playing a key role. Consequently it is vital that both A and B communicate honestly, keeping all emotions and thoughts out in the open. This helps them to keep the relationship dynamic rather than volcanic. If A and B enjoy penetrating discussions and passionate pastimes then all is well. If they don't then their union could become overwhelming, particularly for A. Together they experience a change of perception which is ultimately rewarding, although initially could be disruptive. Notably B challenges A's way of viewing the world. This can be an excellent combination for personal and spiritual growth. Consequently it is an ideal combination for a therapist and client relationship. It can also be beneficial for an intimate relationship or friendship, if both partners enjoy intensity, and a demanding working association.

A's Mercury is Opposite B's Chiron (Orb 7°28')
This is a difficult combination of the planet Mercury and the asteroid Chiron. A and B have difficulty communicating in a manner that is rewarding. Instead they seem to hurt each other's feelings through saying the wrong thing. In particular B seems to upset A. The problem is that old hurtful memories surface in this relationship. A and B have subconsciously attracted each other in order to learn valuable life lessons, but the journey is not smooth. A is particularly sensitive to the words used by B, and has difficulty listening with emotional calm. A may accuse B of being insensitive and uncaring; however, B feels wrongfully accused. He genuinely struggles to find a better way of communicating what he means. These misunderstandings could lead to a breakdown in the relationship, or they could finally result in a better understanding of themselves and each other. Either way compassion is a key ingredient to successfully overcoming past hurts and developing loving communication.

B's Venus is Sextile A's Neptune (Orb 0°42')
Romance is the key theme of this combination of planets. B and A feel that they have met their one true love under the influence of the planets Venus and Neptune. They meet, fall in love and create a union brimming with romance, joy and idyllic love. Whether or not this idyll lasts depends on other aspects of the association. During the course of their union they are able to interact in a loving and creative manner. It's also possible that B and A participate in a joint creative and imaginative pursuit, inspiring each other to stretch their artistic talents. Perhaps B and A follow a spiritual path together. B is particularly attracted to A's artistic and altruistic nature. He appreciates all of the qualities that A brings to their relationship. In response A feels that B's support enables her talents to blossom. While this attraction is more likely to involve the love and devotion associated with a strong bond such as marriage, it can also depict a creative, artistic or spiritual working partnership.

B's Venus is Trine A's Pluto (Orb 1°40')
Intense emotions are central to this relationship. B and A feel a passionate attraction to each other, a compelling need to be together. Sexual magnetism plays an important role in the initial stages of the union and continues, even through times of emotional difficulties. It is also possible that B and A share an artistic or creative pursuit about which they are both ardent. Whatever the outlet for the emotions, the key is intensity. On the whole this combination of the planets Venus and Pluto has a positive influence on any association, but it can be overpowering in some instances. If both B and A enjoy intensity then this relationship positively transforms both their lives. Together they embrace the changes that challenge any relationship. If one of them dislikes emotional upheaval, then there are likely to be problems. In particular B may feel overwhelmed at times by the force of his own emotions or the power of A's personality. At other times B enjoys learning about how to be more influential in his life. A feels more powerful as a result of this union with B, more able to achieve her ambitions.

A's Venus is Opposite B's Jupiter (Orb 5°21')
Love and excitement are strong themes of this relationship. Both A and B feel a strong attraction and enjoy many pleasurable activities. Together A and B enjoy good fortune, exploring the realms of higher learning, culture, religion or metaphysics. They may delight in travelling to foreign lands, meeting new people and discovering different ways of life. Alternatively they may take delight in joining a study group closer to home. Initially this union expands their horizons and the attraction is strong. It is difficult for A and B to remain committed to each other, unless there are other indications of commitment in their association. The trouble is that B cannot seem to settle down, always looking for new horizons. He wants romance and excitement on a grand scale and expects A to join in. A also wants romance, but needs the security of commitment. B does not want to make a commitment. B enjoys his freedom and cannot understand why A is so insecure about their relationship. As the relationship progresses B becomes more impatient which in turn increases A's insecurities. Unless there are other aspects of the relationship, which indicate commitment and stability, this union, is likely to falter on rocky ground.

A's Venus is Square B's Neptune (Orb 3°16')
This association of the planets Venus and Neptune indicates idyllic love. A and B meet and fall deeply in love, fully appreciating each other's unique qualities. Romance abounds. Together A and B feel that they have found true love such as only Romeo and Juliet and Daphnis and Chloe experienced. However, there are problems associated with this combination of planets. A and B find that the initial idyllic love can start to prove illusory in the long term. As the relationship develops it becomes more difficult for them to escape from the demands of the mundane world into a world of romance. They become disillusioned. They would rather stay lost in a sea of blissful love than be reminded of the responsibilities of their separate lives. Both A and B are vulnerable in this state of pretence. They need to be wary of circumstances or people who prey on their impressionable state. In particular they need to avoid any spiritual groups, drugs and artistic enterprises that may be deceptive in their nature. Once A and B have learned to face their relationship honestly and with discrimination then they can enjoy a creative and loving partnership as well as artistic and spiritual pursuits.

A's Mars is Conjunct B's Pluto (Orb 5°21')
This combination of the stormy planets Mars and Pluto indicates a passionate and compelling union. The atmosphere is explosive when A and B get together. Sexual energy seems to simmer barely under control. Both A and B need to be wary of letting the force of their heated emotions build up. They need a positive outlet for all of their pent-up energy whether this be a challenging home renovation project or a regular work-out at the gym. Together A and B feel able to conquer the world and are certainly a power to be reckoned with. The initial stages of the relationship are fraught with sexual tension, but the union may not be an intimate one. Rather it may be a partnership committed to hard work and a challenging project. Either way as the relationship develops, the strong and creative force of both A and B takes over and can be directed into a mutually satisfying project. In other words A and B can be passionate about each other or they can direct their passion into an external activity. Either way this is a dynamic and explosive relationship.

B's Mars is Square A's Jupiter (Orb 4°24')
B and A have difficulty maintaining equilibrium in this relationship. They both eagerly approach joint tasks. There is no lack of enthusiasm, only a lack of harmony. Problems arise at the start of any joint project because B and A fail to agree on common goals. Once they have managed to agree on the goals, then they both have their own ideas about what is the best process of achieving those goals. They often seem to be heading in opposite directions. In fact they put their own independent desires first, rather than considering what is best for the bigger picture. B has a tendency to force A to do things his way. At times B can be quite aggressive in his communication. A believes that she knows best. The result is tension and arguments. The challenge is for both B and A to learn to co-operate, each using their own talents while respecting the skills of the other person.

A's Mars is Square B's Saturn (Orb 2°33')
This combination of the planets Mars and Saturn suggests a strong commitment in which A and B initially struggle to understand each other. On the one hand both A and B are committed to making this partnership work. On the other hand they face almost insurmountable difficulties along the way. Ancient astrologers consider the planets Mars and Saturn to have a harmful effect on humanity. Therefore this relationship needs to be treated with respect, to avoid causing emotional or physical damage to either A or B. The trouble is that they are both determined to force their own egos on to each other, and can be quite brutal in their efforts to get the other person to do as they wish. They need to develop understanding and respect for each other, if it does not already exist. Sometimes B tries to force his methods on to A, only to meet A's stubborn refusal to budge on certain matters. The challenge is a big one in this union. Both A and B need to carefully consider the future of this relationship, knowing that only mutual respect and caring communication can shine a light on their difficulties.

B's Mars is Opposite A's Neptune (Orb 0°25')
B and A have difficulty maintaining a long-term commitment because of the negative influence of the planets Mars and Neptune. There is a strong sense of loss associated with this influence. Perhaps B and A have formed a bond based on a shared sense of grief or loss, or maybe they fail to establish a loving bond and suffer as a result. In extreme cases they may be victims of each other's abuse. They find it very difficult to be honest with each other, because straight-talking often becomes confused and hurtful. There is a tendency for them to resort to deceit in order to escape the emotional pain associated with misunderstandings. Of course much of this depends on the influence of other aspects of their relationship. It is possible that B and A share a common bond by working together on an artistic, musical, dramatic, spiritual or philanthropic project thereby maintaining a positive focus in their association. However, it is more likely that they struggle to find common ground and therefore maintain a strong and loving bond.

B's Mars is Opposite A's North Node (Orb 6°56')
The fiery planet Mars and the fateful North Node provides a powerful combination of forces. B and A are dynamite together. This can be positive in that together they can achieve their goals. However this union can also be a threat to their life goals if they allow their desires to take over. In some cases this union could threaten either B or A's safety. Violence, and violent situations, need to be avoided at all times. Passion may be a driving force in this liaison. Both B and A feel a strong attraction. A personal relationship may be fraught with difficulties unless B and A find a joint project about which they are passionate, or a goal, which demands much energy. This combination may be beneficial in a partnership that works on an energetic, demanding or physically powerful project - one that involves plenty of hard work and challenges.

B's Jupiter is Trine A's Uranus (Orb 5°09')
Spiritual and philosophical interests could be at the centre of this relationship. B and A enjoy a meeting the meeting of two minds. They are excited by each other's innovative ideas, perhaps sharing a common creative project. Their relationship follows an erratic course, but they are both happy with the stimulation and excitement. They enjoy a non-orthodox association, spurning a more traditional one. A wide range of subjects crop up in conversations including philosophy, science, religion, metaphysics, technology, world cultures, environmental science and world politics, to name a few. B and A spend much of their time together pursuing their common interests and learning from each other. B experiences a broadening of his intellectual concepts through his association with A. He delights in the challenges that this ever-changing relationship provides. A is excited by B's keen interest in her ideas. She appreciates the freedom of expression and exchange of ideas. This is an intellectual connection and therefore is more likely to benefit a friendship rather than a lover's union.

A's Jupiter is Square B's Neptune (Orb 2°14')
When A and B first meet they are attracted to each other's spiritual and religious values. Their imaginations are inspired by each other's differing beliefs. However, as the relationship develops the novelty wears off and conflict arises. At first A and B may not be aware of the deterioration of this side of their association. It is an insidious process and one that A and B find hard to understand. The problem is that their conflicting religious or spiritual values are undermining the success of their union. Secretly B believes that he is following the true path. He does not realise that this is a rejection of his partner's values. A is more vocal in her opposition to B's convictions. Both A and B have difficulty allowing each other to follow their own spiritual truth. Eventually conflict over spiritual matters takes its toll on this association. The challenge is for A and B to discover a way in which they can both offer support and understanding for their opposing spiritual or religious values.

Generational Values

Underpinning the success of many relationships is a sense of shared values. Often this comes from simply being born into the same generation. However, sometimes it is more complex. In this section we explore whether or not A and B share the same societal values.

B's Saturn is Trine A's Uranus (Orb 2°06')
The planet Saturn is a vital ingredient in relationship astrology. It is the planet that represents stability and commitment and is seen by astrologers as the necessary glue that holds a relationship together on a long-term basis. Of course not everyone is seeking long-term commitment, but for those who are Saturn is a welcome sign. In this case B and A are approaching their union from different angles and this can be both beneficial and detrimental. On the one hand B and A feel drawn to each other, recognising that they each have different traits to bring to this union. B is probably the more serious of the pair, providing stability and commitment, whereas A is more likely to provide the impetus for growth and change. If B becomes too stuck in his ways then A is able to spark a change of attitude. Together they strike a happy balance between responsibility and diversity.

A's Saturn is Square B's Chiron (Orb 1°49')
This union is fraught with difficulties, mainly because of A and B's past experiences in relationships. Hurtful experiences from previous important relationships initially have a negative impact hampering both A and B's ability to build a secure and loving relationship. However, both A and B are committed to each other, to making this relationship work. As a result past hurts are examined and healed in this union. It is possible that A fears emotional intimacy, at first putting up barriers that hinder the growth of this union. Perhaps she has trouble trusting the strength of the bond with A. Gradually A learns to trust the enduring nature of this relationship and both A and B learn the joys of intimacy.

A's Uranus is Conjunct B's Uranus (Orb 1°16')
This combination of the planets Uranus indicates an electric connection, which excites both A and B. They feel that they are on the same intellectual wavelength, and welcome each other's creative ideas. Together they enjoy innovative projects. Technology, science, politics, the environment, metaphysics and world events may spark their curiosity. The key is intellectual stimulation and joint discovery of new uncharted territories. Their relationship undergoes periods of upheaval, but on the whole both A and B prefer the unexpected changes to settling into a routine. Together A and B are able to enjoy independence, enabling each other plenty of freedom to pursue their individual activities. In some cases this combination may simply indicate that A and B are a similar age. Nevertheless the effect is still one that enhances their relationship.

A's Uranus is Opposite B's Chiron (Orb 7°08')
Healing and growth are possible in this relationship, but the road to new understandings is bumpy. The challenge for A and B is to forgive and forget loved ones, who have hurt them in the past so that they can move forward in their lives. A may force radical changes in B's life, which are initially painful but eventually prove healing in certain ways. B's insecurities may prompt A to re-evaluate her commitments to the relationship. The success of this relationship will largely depend on other aspects of A and B's union.

A's Neptune is Conjunct B's Neptune (Orb 2°36')
This planetary combination of Neptune indicates common ideals, which can help form a basis for a relationship. However, many other combinations of planets will make a more significant contribution to this union between A and B. In some cases this combination may simply indicate that A and B are a similar age. Nevertheless the effect is still one that enhances their relationship because all liaisons benefit from a sharing of values and ideals.

A's Neptune is Sextile B's Pluto (Orb 1°09')
This planetary combination of Neptune and Pluto indicates common values, which can help form a basis for a relationship. However, many other combinations of planets will make a more significant contribution to this union between A and B. All relationships benefit from a sharing of values, however this combination is not highly significant.

A's Pluto is Conjunct B's Pluto (Orb 0°12')
This planetary combination of Pluto indicates common values, which can help form a basis for a relationship. Similar deep forces, which enable them to understand each other's motives, may drive A and B. However, many other combinations of planets will play a more momentous role in this union between A and B. In some cases this combination may simply indicate that A and B are a similar age. Nevertheless the effect is still one that enhances their relationship because all liaisons benefit from a sharing of values.

A's Chiron is Conjunct B's Chiron (Orb 4°53')
The asteroid Chiron indicates a shared sense of ethics. These ethics could stem from A and B sharing similar social backgrounds, or perhaps they both experienced a similar painful childhood experience. These hurtful memories could have driven them to form their own life principles, which they can then share with each other. It is also possible that A and B have a common bond as students, teachers, patients or healers. In some cases this combination may simply indicate that A and B are a similar age. Nevertheless the effect is still one that enhances their relationship because all liaisons benefit from a sharing of values.

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WOW, manderin! This is a huge information! Thank you so much again
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