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ScorpieScorp
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posted May 23, 2014 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi--what are some aspects that are considered "bad" or "tough" that you'd still rather have -- than not at all...

For instance--Moon/Pluto could be considered a tough aspect--but if you have it--you definitely get to go through life feeling feelings quite deeply--giving a rich experience.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 23, 2014 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like all my "bad" aspects, couldn't do without them:

Mars conjunct Pluto
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mercury square Saturn
and
Venus square Neptune

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sag_stellium
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posted May 23, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll keep my million Saturn aspects and dump Venus square jupiter. I can't control my urges. Argh they just get to me and next thing you know, I'm giving in.

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ScorpieScorp
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posted May 23, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I like all my "bad" aspects, couldn't do without them:

Mars conjunct Pluto
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mercury square Saturn
and
Venus square Neptune




Interesting! What do you like about them?

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lifefullofwords
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posted May 23, 2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like all of my "bad" planetary aspects and wouldn't give them away. And I have a lot of hard aspects, including my Moon & Mercury square Pluto and a t-square involving Venus, Saturn & my ASC. So it's not like I don't have plenty of tough stuff in my chart, it's just worth it because the aspects have plenty of upsides as well. Plus they're just part of who I am and I don't want to be a totally different person. The only aspect in my chart that I really hate is Mars quincunx Chiron.

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posted May 23, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I lust after my 1 degree Mars/Saturn square

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PeterPan
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posted May 23, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterPan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a love/hate relationship with them all

Pluto opposite mars and mercury:

Hate is a feeling i know a bit to well and i think this aspect has allot to do with it, but i also think it makes me tougher both physically and mentaly, so i would keep it for that.

Uranus square moon:

This one can be really difficult, somtimes i just do really risky stuff out of nowhere, and i have this attraction to detachment... i like women i can't get with, if i can i sort of lose interest. But i can't imagine my tought process without it, i think id be allot less intelligent.

Mars conjunct asc:

People somtimes think i come off as arrogant, and ive been told i have anger issues lol, but this one i just couldnt live without, i think some of my crazy ambitions, drive and confidence stems directly from this aspect.


I think my Mars can come of as overpowering to people, coupled with uranus ive gotten in allot of trouble for crazy things but they also make for my best qualities.

- which is what i think is the deal with most harsh aspects, they give you both your worst and your best qualities.

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posted May 23, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square pluto and im already a scorpio sun lmao i actually like it because it gives me limitless drive to go after whatever i want to achieve i always keep going no matter what setbacks i may have BUT i do feel very deeply and its great but also my greatest weakness because i can take things to heart especially if im betrayed than the pain i feel is ridiculous!

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posted May 23, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
For instance--Moon/Pluto could be considered a tough aspect--but if you have it--you definitely get to go through life feeling feelings quite deeply--giving a rich experience.



I don't know whether I am revolted by this example or kind of agree with it. Probably a bit of both.

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I honestly can't think of a single hard aspect that I have that I would want to keep.

If I had something like, say, Mercury square Uranus, it could be different (the aspect of progressive thinking & genius! Or uh, eccentricity). (Or maybe not.)

But when it comes to Sun, Moon and Mars afflictions... eh, not so much.

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ScorpieScorp
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posted May 23, 2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I have moon square pluto and im already a scorpio sun lmao i actually like it because it gives me limitless drive to go after whatever i want to achieve i always keep going no matter what setbacks i may have BUT i do feel very deeply and its great but also my greatest weakness because i can take things to heart especially if im betrayed than the pain i feel is ridiculous!

We should start a Moon/Pluto support group...

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posted May 23, 2014 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had a Mars/Pluto aspect

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Moonfish
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posted May 23, 2014 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my Mars-Pluto conjunction too, however it would be great to have Mars square Uranus. They're dare devils, and live by there own rules. Something I could never do.

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posted May 23, 2014 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I love my Mars-Pluto conjunction too, however it would be great to have Mars square Uranus. They're dare devils, and live by there own rules. Something I could never do.

I have this (Mars Sq Uranus)--I'm very independent...but I have to watch my temper when someone gets in my way (I'm a Scorpio too). I've always considered it a "bad" aspect--but I does give me a sexy sizzle..

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posted May 23, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sq venus... Blah!

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Odette
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posted May 23, 2014 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conj Neptune because I just love this aspect.. but some consider it bad. It makes me feel closer to God.. like I can trust that the actions I'm taking are aligned with where I need to be on a spiritual level. It's a good feeling.

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posted May 23, 2014 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Moon sq venus... Blah!

ahahaha...where should I start?

Moon square Venus ...blah!
Moon oppose Pluto...
Venus square Pluto....
Mars square Uranus..
Saturn opposition Neptune..

all in tight orb btw...and some JUPI stress as well but the list would be to long..

Well at least I am very interesting people say and my energy is a bit dark , although i am gemini sun ,but sexy.

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posted May 23, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uggghhh.

Sun square Pluto
Mars square Pluto


There are a lot of benefits, but the cons outweigh the pros here.

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ScorpieScorp
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posted May 24, 2014 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
ahahaha...where should I start?

Moon square Venus ...blah!
Moon oppose Pluto...
Venus square Pluto....
Mars square Uranus..
Saturn opposition Neptune..

all in tight orb btw...and some JUPI stress as well but the list would be to long..

Well at least I am very interesting people say and my energy is a bit dark , although i am gemini sun ,but sexy.


What are your thoughts on having a Pluto/Moon and Mars/Uranus?

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posted May 24, 2014 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oohh, but I don't know where to start from? I will gladly give away venus square saturn , moon square mars, mars square neptune,mars square asc...and I will keep sun opp pluto, mars square uranus, and will keep the outer bad aspects too...that was meant to happend, it's a generational aspect, cannot get rid of it like that

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NeptunianSag
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posted May 24, 2014 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn Venus actually gives me real relationships instead of fake ones, plus I don't get to be messed around with, cheated on ect.

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posted May 24, 2014 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it played differently, and I got cheated no matter of the aspect. Thing is I knew and finished the relationship.Actually the aspect is playing more on me rather than the energy/nature of the relationship.

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posted May 24, 2014 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag Uranus square sun and mercury

I like being unpredictable and a little different..i really don't see what the problem is

I may be late for pretty much everything, but I'm more than worth the wait once I get there!

I occasionally say things that offend people because I don't always think before I speak, but I'll always make an attempt to apologize if I truly hurt someone...

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posted May 24, 2014 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon Pluto square and i would give it away any minute.


I would rather keep my Mercury Neptune square, it gives me great imagination and visualisation power!

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posted May 24, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OR i just changed my mind (i think it is Mercury/Neptune square trait as well, lol )

I would keep all my aspects, good or bad, because without them i wouldn't be myself, right? And i love myself for who i am now not for somebody else i could have been, had i been born another day.

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posted May 24, 2014 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
What are your thoughts on having a Pluto/Moon and Mars/Uranus?

Humm Scorpie..
When you have so many "harsh" aspects as I in the natal chart it is very difficult to distinguish which aspect is exactly the trigger of what. Okay let me try.

I think my MOON -PLUTO opposition (orb a bit wider then 1°) is responsible for extremely, and I repeat, extremely strong feelings I sometimes experience..
Its like when I feel love for someone ( i never feel hate thanks god!) it is so strong that anything else is irrelevant. It consumes me totally and feels like a sickness rather then good. Its physical not only psychical. Its painful. I feel dizzy, cant breed , I hyperventilate.. actually I feel so weak that it sucks! Now, more mature I can somehow control it better, but when I was younger it was very difficult cos i was out of " business" , not able to function properly at all, totally absent for other things day life demands from one to deal with..Hope you understand. When I am in love, passionate, its like the other has my air, the air I so badly need in order to survive..
Well, the good thing about this aspect is that it is magical in a way. I feel like if that amount of emotional energy i cary inside acts like voodoo, spell.
I look and act mostly reserved and disinterested, which I actually am ( my protective shield) but others perceive that aura of mine with great respect and caution. I was never the woman man would play lightly with so to say. They usually feel attracted by that "power & deepness" but if I am not interested they remain on a secure distance and admire from the far so to say.
Man I was involved with usually tries to get me back over and over, Recently a Capricorn man with Scorp Venus and ASC, i had love story with in my early 20s ,told me that since me he never had serious relationship with any woman and that he still loves and wants me and that after, I am now 41, 20 years. Mostly I can "**** " any of my old lovers only if I would want to. But I dont do that. If it is over, Its over.

Okay, ahahaha..Difficult aspect to explain but I def. tried

MARS/ URANUS?
Humm, I have a square also tight orb ( 1° plus a bit)
The best way to describe that one is " ON GUARD"
In a way " dont fock with me!".
I would fight for my ideals and conviction no matter what . I am not easy to manipulate or dominate with authority of any sort cos I am not scared to stand my ground.Maybe REBEL is a good word or someone might perceive me like one. My Mars is in the third so its connected to communication and yeah I can be verbally aggressive and argumentative. I dont care if a person is " high rank" or " simple" . I am the same with both. With other words I would even say to the president of the world ( if there would be such) to fock off! If thats my opinion. In general I attract " influential people " cos they sense my luck of fear and usually find that honesty very sexy...


Okay babe, only this two aspects can give enough material, drama, for another take on " WAR AND PEACE" essay.
We dont want that right?
Hope I helped a bit though ....xx

Btw, the one I percieve as the worst of all harsh aspects I have is
SATURN opp NEPTUNE
It makes one feel unworthy, mediocre etc..PFUI!
But thanks to other ( harsh) aspects I have in the natal I can balance that one more or less good.

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