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tuxedoMask
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posted November 09, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
environmental surroundings play a biggie with this one! as the moon, naturally reflective, the moon can be thrown into being or expressing whatever they may be surrounded by.. it is crucial that the person be aware of it and their tendencies as it pretty much plays a very defining role in the whole thing. the moon has to be in a place where they are emotionally cared for, safe and secure.. 'secure' doesn't mean around familiar surroundings; it helps if the surrounding are healthy but if the person is 'unevolved', their relationships with family and friends, possibly not beneficial; the moon might be in a very stagnant place; if the moon person is prone to introspection and personal work, they might be aware of it and if so, their life has probably gone through several growth periods that required them to produce positive change; the moon can express themselves at their best as such.

if the moon is surrounded by things and people that are not beneficial for growth and positive change, that energy might hold them down and would prove to hold down the pairing between the moon/mars unless there is something that propels them to make a personal lifestyle change.


the mars on the other hand, can attest to all things mars; all of it will play out: the sex, the independence, the drive, the driver, basically.

one can assume that the mars will be the one to ignite the pairing. mars will seduce, pursue, flatter, etc.. the moon will respond and be charmed. the moon is responsive in this pairing unless there are other aspects in between charts to say otherwise (*a fixed moon might be less interactive than the others).

the attraction might be strong as the emotional current between the two can be stirred without effort.. almost anything that the moon might do, could stir the mars into an erotic frenzy; the moon might in turn feel like a piece of meat and ask for things to be taken slow.

that is when the indications of differences begin to occur. it transfers it's energy over to the bedroom, to their domestic life, to their nurturing one another, themselves and can create a whole lot of confusion.

eventually, the moon person might not realize that they are holding onto automatic, unconscious behaviour.. their hold on what they see as security could be used as a protective shield and as the moon protects (possibly without even knowing it if they are not aware of that tendency) the mars will pick up it's sword.

since both planets are very personal, it can all happen without either one needing to consciously make a choice about it.

the moon will protect and the mars will pick up on the defensive attitude.

as such, mars is compelled to justify it by giving the moon something to protect against.

mars is a fighter; mars will fight. if the moon cannot understand that they are perceiving a portion of the relation as a threat, (*i cannot stress the importance of their inner, personal work) mars will all too quickly smell the battle in the air and do what it does best.

the moon will get the response that it is looking for and express it's emotional nature being the planet that it is.

mars will have no problem with it as the shield was picked up before the sword.

that's when things can then get nasty; they express things differently. the moon might want to express it's feelings and the mars will feel entitled to any and all self-interest.

once allies, they can then turn into enemies in combat; the battlegrounds may be the home.

the mars may appear to the moon as being cruel, insensitive, cold, a jerk, combative and as one who has no need for them.

it isn't exactly so; the moon is just responding to their own emotions and their own feelings and unless there is something to reinforce mutual understanding, the moon may not understand the emotions of the other and how the battle even begun.

the moon isn't completely innocent; it is mars that actively fights but the moon can forget that it influences the tides, it can express itself and possibly start the whole thing with it's attempt to protect and also manipulate.

the end result could be lots of resentment between the two. the mars understanding and maybe even realizing how sensitive the moon is/can be and taking the route of absolutely not caring in response to the moon's self-preservation in spite of the emotional side of mars; could cause lots of emotional damage to the moon; moon then reflecting what may be mars' rage but only temporarily before it tries to find shelter to get itself together.

for people who have to see each other on a daily basis, unless there are positive reinforcements and 'forgiveness'/'acceptance' between the charts, in synastry, the aspect might probably not be the best.

if either one of the parties involved though, have a natal placement of the moon or mars that feed off of that combative energy; pairing might be just right for them!

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posted November 09, 2011 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
environmental surroundings play a biggie with this one! as the moon, naturally reflective, the moon can be thrown into being or expressing whatever they may be surrounded by.. it is crucial that the person be aware of it and their tendencies as it pretty much plays a very defining role in the whole thing. the moon has to be in a place where they are emotionally cared for, safe and secure.. 'secure' doesn't mean around familiar surroundings; it helps if the surrounding are healthy but if the person is 'unevolved', their relationships with family and friends, possibly not beneficial; the moon might be in a very stagnant place; if the moon person is prone to introspection and personal work, they might be aware of it and if so, their life has probably gone through several growth periods that required them to produce positive change; the moon can express themselves at their best as such.

if the moon is surrounded by things and people that are not beneficial for growth and positive change, that energy might hold them down and would prove to hold down the pairing between the moon/mars unless there is something that propels them to make a personal lifestyle change.


the mars on the other hand, can attest to all things mars; all of it will play out: the sex, the independence, the drive, the driver, basically.

one can assume that the mars will be the one to ignite the pairing. mars will seduce, pursue, flatter, etc.. the moon will respond and be charmed. the moon is responsive in this pairing unless there are other aspects in between charts to say otherwise (*a fixed moon might be less interactive than the others).

the attraction might be strong as the emotional current between the two can be stirred without effort.. almost anything that the moon might do, could stir the mars into an erotic frenzy; the moon might in turn feel like a piece of meat and ask for things to be taken slow.

that is when the indications of differences begin to occur. it transfers it's energy over to the bedroom, to their domestic life, to their nurturing one another, themselves and can create a whole lot of confusion.

eventually, the moon person might not realize that they are holding onto automatic, unconscious behaviour.. their hold on what they see as security could be used as a protective shield and as the moon protects (possibly without even knowing it if they are not aware of that tendency) the mars will pick up it's sword.

since both planets are very personal, it can all happen without either one needing to consciously make a choice about it.

the moon will protect and the mars will pick up on the defensive attitude.

as such, mars is compelled to justify it by giving the moon something to protect against.

mars is a fighter; mars will fight. if the moon cannot understand that they are perceiving a portion of the relation as a threat, (*i cannot stress the importance of their inner, personal work) mars will all too quickly smell the battle in the air and do what it does best.

the moon will get the response that it is looking for and express it's emotional nature being the planet that it is.

mars will have no problem with it as the shield was picked up before the sword.

that's when things can then get nasty; they express things differently. the moon might want to express it's feelings and the mars will feel entitled to any and all self-interest.

once allies, they can then turn into enemies in combat; the battlegrounds may be the home.

the mars may appear to the moon as being cruel, insensitive, cold, a jerk, combative and as one who has no need for them.

it isn't exactly so; the moon is just responding to their own emotions and their own feelings and unless there is something to reinforce mutual understanding, the moon may not understand the emotions of the other and how the battle even begun.

the moon isn't completely innocent; it is mars that actively fights but the moon can forget that it influences the tides, it can express itself and possibly start the whole thing with it's attempt to protect and also manipulate.

the end result could be lots of resentment between the two. the mars understanding and maybe even realizing how sensitive the moon is/can be and taking the route of absolutely not caring in response to the moon's self-preservation in spite of the emotional side of mars; could cause lots of emotional damage to the moon; moon then reflecting what may be mars' rage but only temporarily before it tries to find shelter to get itself together.

for people who have to see each other on a daily basis, unless there are positive reinforcements and 'forgiveness'/'acceptance' between the charts, in synastry, the aspect might probably not be the best.

if either one of the parties involved though, have a natal placement of the moon or mars that feed off of that combative energy; pairing might be just right for them!


What an amazing post! I have had the double whammy in synastry, square and opposition. It was everything you described to a T.

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posted November 09, 2011 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree I have the DW square and opposition.. Going and its pretty close... But we do have the nice Jupiter aspects so we just forgive... But its unstable and back and fourth because of Uranus.. It seems to be never ending...

The Jupiter aspects to forgive, just makes IDK you go back...

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posted November 09, 2011 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^awesome!

i took to figuring out my interaction with that date i had the other day i ranted about in that beast thread and typed it up as i went along.. SO glad you've had a longer experience and can relate!

their jupiter conjuncts my venus and moon and i think you're right.. i went off all on my own in that thread yesterday and today i thought about getting in touch with them but oh, man... *sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

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posted November 09, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah mine is with that pisces guy, its been back and fourth now for what 2 years??
IDK...

We go through periods that we hurt each others feelings... (moon/pluto also)
Our last argument was a 4 hour battle.. (yikes) very hurtful...
We didnt speak for 3 months.. But now we just forgave each other, and are on speaking terms again...

Im sure next time will be a 6 hour battle

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posted November 09, 2011 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Moon-Mars aspects...I have the square natally, and have the square with my dad (he and I have the same Mars) and of course I have had many interactions w/ other Piscean Mars who square my Sag moon and many interactions with Sag moons who square my Pisces Mars! There is always a balance war...even if it is subtle..there is a struggle for dominance in this pairing. Lots of arguments can arise, ugly ones at that.


I've never met a Virgo Mars that i know of...so not sure how my Sag moon reacts to that. Gemini moons and I get in a LOT of arguments..holy crap!!! They square my Mars and just P*ss me off even if they are some of my best friends lol

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posted November 09, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Yeah mine is with that pisces guy, its been back and fourth now for what 2 years??
IDK...

We go through periods that we hurt each others feelings... (moon/pluto also)
Our last argument was a 4 hour battle.. (yikes) very hurtful...
We didnt speak for 3 months.. But now we just forgave each other, and are on speaking terms again...

Im sure next time will be a 6 hour battle


any chiron aspects?

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posted November 09, 2011 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
any chiron aspects?

Yes.. My chiron to him

sq venus
opps pluto
trine neptune

Actually I just noticed its a t-square.
My chiron to his Venus/Pluto
My uranus conjuncts his pluto. also...
LOL....

His chiron
sextile my venus

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posted November 09, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes.. My chiron to him

sq venus
opps pluto
trine neptune

Actually I just noticed its a t-square.
My chiron to his Venus/Pluto
My uranus conjuncts his pluto. also...
LOL....

His chiron
sextile my venus


who gets hurt out of that? i only experienced the square between chiron and venus once and nothing ever came of it.

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posted November 09, 2011 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IDK.... both.. Its back and fourth...
But its really hard to say, since neither of us will express the hurt, until the crap hits the fan...
But again thats the DW moon/mars..

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posted November 10, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
IDK.... both.. Its back and fourth...
But its really hard to say, since neither of us will express the hurt, until the crap hits the fan...
But again thats the DW moon/mars..

i see... i sure hope john is interested in hearing about this.

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posted December 08, 2013 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for acousticbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really great post. Thanks!

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posted December 09, 2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow TM, this post is great!

I have a Moon/Mars DW with my fiance. His Moon square my Mars, my Moon opposite his Mars and I can totally relate to both sides of this.

Great insight!

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posted December 09, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square Mars natally:

18 Pisces moon
16 Gemini Mars

As a Cap sun, I really like people with Virgo moons and hate to think of myself as doomed to being pushy towards them. But I don't know, that might be how they see it.

I do want to say two of my closest friends have their Mars conjunct mine, therefore squaring my moon, and it doesn't bother me at all.

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posted December 09, 2013 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ive had this and had read the mars person gets angered by the moons emotions. i couldnt understand why they seemed intent on causing emotions but this interpretation does put a slant on it that explains it.

i still dont understand it but i dont like my emotions and this magnified them & self-loathing, i have a squared mars natally and cant sympathise with unrestrained mars drive. but still, its hard to let go after that energy especially when it was good before the circular thing. going to see if i can find myself as mars in relation to anothers moon to appreciate it more.

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posted December 14, 2013 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome post tuxedoMask!!

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posted December 15, 2013 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HPDBlue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square mars natally.
Although I haven't given this aspect any deeper introspection yet, several sources say that those with this aspect have tempers and lack patience. I'm very patient, and am hard to rile up emotionally, (it's required for my job)
So I'm not sure if some other aspect is counterbalancing it, or my mars is asleep on the job!
I do tend to pour a lot of my emotion into whatever I am emotionally involved in: Work, career, relationships, personal goals, and have a tremendous amount of energy reserves /stamina to pull through whatever my heart desires.

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posted April 07, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump! my ex and I had this in our synastry I never really payed attention to this.

He is a Taurus Moon, and I'm an Aqua Mars.

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posted April 07, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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