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vertiver
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posted December 11, 2010 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never realized how prominent natal Pisces moon is in my chart, till I recognized how much of an escapist I truly am.

Perhaps because it is my only personal planet in water, it is very pronounced...

Some key things:

I always make exceptions for other people to the point that I feel like a sore loser.

I am hyper-sensitive to criticism and internalize it, I have terrible problems with balancing my 3rd chakra- as in sellf-confidence...

"You find a million ways to enhance or to evade whatever might present itself to your super-receptive nature."

I work in sales and I'm challenge to help all customers because I'm too receptive to other people to the point that I get very stand-offish when there is bad vibes.

"The notion of "what you could be" is endlessly used as a means of keeping you in a fascinated state of being neither special nor ordinary."

So true, its as if a Pisces mooner discounts themselves as not having the ability to achieve their goals.

"You feel pain even- or most of all - in your imagination."

I've never gone through terrible painful things, yet a Pisces Moon is so good at emphasizing with the sorrows of the world that they feel collective pain even if it is not personal.

"Your imagination is, in fact, so vivid that this dreamboat actually appears to arrive."

As in your so delusional that you believe you've met your dream boat, but once those rose-colored glasses are off you feel like such an idiot for being so gullible to a phoney ideal.

"Not surprisingly, you have an addictive personality. An addiction is essentially an distraction."

I've come to realize that the the mundane life has no purpose so I compensate by distracting myself with school and astrology. Luckily I haven't become an alcoholic yet, but I soon be one the way things are going...

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posted December 11, 2010 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate, Vertiver. I have Venus in Pisces, and Neptune in 5th...

It. Sucks.

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posted December 11, 2010 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't get it though, men with Pisces aspects. They can be mean and so unsympathetic, of course there are women with Pisces placements that are the same. But I've met a couple of guys with Pisces Venus and I still exuded the Pisces martydom... They were indifferent and unrelable.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 11, 2010 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Vertiver
I never heard Pisces expressed this way.I never heard a person "speak" from a Pisces perspective that way i.e. the Pisces was doing the talking.
Please ,write about it some more,if you care to.
Perhaps,in the writing ,you can find some answers or at least some peace

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posted December 11, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At times, I feel that sense of complete discouragement with something in my chart.

Later, I will, usually, see a compensating factor.
My belief is a Higher Source gave us our charts for His Purposes.
Therefore, we CAN overcome our hard aspects with our strong ones, to some degree.

Will we ever totally?
I doubt it.
Prolly,no one else will, either

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nordicsoul
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posted December 11, 2010 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertiver,

I dont know if you were kidding when mentioning about becoming an alcoholic, but I am very hopefull you wont.

from my life experience, rather than astrological, I have learned that people who are very self-awared and can see their potential dangerous areas are more careful about entereing in dangerous zones...

I agree with Anne about how insightful your commetns made from the perspective of piscis moon...

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mir
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posted December 11, 2010 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In all honesty, I've never seen/experienced more escapism than with my Pisces-ex and with this Pisces-moon guy I dated shortly before my Pisces-ex. The last one recently was trying to come back into my life but.. not a bit changed.
ALWAYS the same story.. if things become difficult or hard they fly away.. my conclusion; they still haven't learned to FEEL, to make choices, to STAND up for themselves ..
They hurt others BUT they also hurt themselves and that's what they still can't FEEL (difficult to explain).

If Pisces pulls a lot of creative energy from sadness, than I'm NOT the one for them because I don't want to be made sad or a victim of their devastating habit.

I'm so absolutely done with this escapist behavior.

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posted December 11, 2010 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertiver,

It's possible they had Venus in Aquarius, or some other configuration that made them "aloof"... You may have just met some jaded men, though.

I can flip flop between being compassionate and being indifferent - because of a much needed emotional defense... I've found that Pisces emotions are all consuming, confusing, and very deep - even to the point of being physically debilitating. Without barrier, they can destroy you.

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I don't get it though, men with Pisces aspects. They can be mean and so unsympathetic, of course there are women with Pisces placements that are the same. But I've met a couple of guys with Pisces Venus and I still exuded the Pisces martydom... They were indifferent and unrelable.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 11, 2010 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mir
What is going on,now, with you and your Pisces guy?
Have you ceased all contact?


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posted December 11, 2010 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,

Pisces escapism IS exhausting. I've seen it in my Pisces friends and have learned to "take them as they are" without putting any expectations on them, because THEY ARE unreliable emotionally when things get hard.

Having Venus in Pisces, I can very much see where I've push/pulled, advanced/retreat... and how that's been difficult from a partner's standpoint.

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Originally posted by mir:
In all honesty, I've never seen/experienced more escapism than with my Pisces-ex and with this Pisces-moon guy I dated shortly before my Pisces-ex. The last one recently was trying to come back into my life but.. not a bit changed.
ALWAYS the same story.. if things become difficult or hard they fly away.. my conclusion; they still haven't learned to FEEL, to make choices, to STAND up for themselves ..
They hurt others BUT they also hurt themselves and that's what they still can't FEEL (difficult to explain).

If Pisces pulls a lot of creative energy from sadness, than I'm NOT the one for them because I don't want to be made sad or a victim of their devastating habit.

I'm so absolutely done with this escapist behavior.


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nordicsoul
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posted December 11, 2010 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir Said
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In all honesty, I've never seen/experienced more escapism than with my Pisces-ex and with this Pisces-moon guy I dated shortly before my Pisces-ex. The last one recently was trying to come back into my life but.. not a bit changed.
ALWAYS the same story.. if things become difficult or hard they fly away.. my conclusion; they still haven't learned to FEEL, to make choices, to STAND up for themselves ..
They hurt others BUT they also hurt themselves and that's what they still can't FEEL (difficult to explain).

If Pisces pulls a lot of creative energy from sadness, than I'm NOT the one for them because I don't want to be made sad or a victim of their devastating habit.

I'm so absolutely done with this escapist behavior.
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just having only one experience with a pisces moon I couldnt agree with you more LOL

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posted December 11, 2010 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can totally relate to everything that you said with my having Moon in Pisces square Neptune with 1'23 orb. Therefore, I have a double whammy. My Moon squares the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius.

Of course, as a male, I am attracted to women with Pisces/Neptune traits. I know that the best woman for me is one that is a spiritually oriented and lightworker type. Of course, my mother has Pisces/Neptune traits which are indicated by her Sun in 12th trine Neptune in 5th alone. She is a recovering drug addict/alcoholic with health problems.
My mom is very watery overall with Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer as well as Moon and Saturn in Scorpio.

Alcoholism and drug addiction runs strong in my family.

My maternal grandfather was an alcoholic, and he committed suicide. He had Moon in Pisces as well as Saturn in Pisces oppose Neptune. He also had Sun in Cancer Ascendant in Scorpio. Therefore, all his big 3 were in watersigns, giving him an overall watery disposition.

I never knew my biological father because he had a drug problem. He had Moon in Pisces and stationary retrograde Neptune.


I have never used drugs. I haven't drunk alcohol since January 1999. That's how I have avoided being a drug addict and alcoholic. My escapist tendencies manifest into mainly solitude. I have escaped through internet,reading and television too.

My Pisces/Neptune traits were a great liability when I was in the navy. It was a very stressful environment/life style which I was too sensitive and idealistic for. I relieved my stress through going nightclubbing in San Francisco.

It's very important for me to have spirituality in my life. I find listening to New Age,Meditation music very soothing


note: I chose Glaucus as my online nickname because I wanted a name that reflect my Pisces/Neptune nature. In Greek mythology, Glaucus was a fisherman that turned into minor sea god. He looked like a merman. He was taught the art of prophecy by the sea god, Proteus.

My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in watersigns too. They are in Scorpio. Therefore, my Moon is not the only planet in watersigns,and so I am very watery. Emotions and feelings are just natural for me to experience. My Sun in Scorpio trine my Moon in Pisces with 2'10 orb, and so have a harmonious disposition overall because my ego,self expression,vitality,and male energy are well in sync with my feelings,emotional,nature,and feminine energy. This helps offset my t-square a bit too.


I take some pride that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had Moon in Pisces.
At times, I think of Moon in Pisces as "The Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Moon" It took a Pisces Moon to lead the Civil Rights Movement. Maybe my Moon in Pisces can be good for me to be a leader in the Neurodiversity Movement.

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pisces moon here, love my fantasies and dreams! but i am the opposite of an addictive personality - i have tried every substance and "escape" going but something always makes me walk away when i start getting "strung out"

i am the person EVERYONE lays their troubles on because i don't show them "the hand" when they do,

and when it comes to relationships i never give up unless there is serious abuse or it becomes obvious that the other is on a completely different wavelength.

yes i make excuses for others...call it walking a mile in their shoes

yes i can have a hard time making decisions, i prefer to watch things unfold. though if i am deciding for myself on something that doesn't involve others, no problem.

this reminds me of a thread about mars in cancer that was here lately...i was just thinking about that last night. my thoughts were centered on the fact that i have mars in cancer but a completely different experience of it than others.

one thing that occurred to me was that if, say you are a gemini, your sun will "roil up" your watery mars and make it very hard for it to know what to do...and cancer, when the water gets roiled, hides in its shell.

if you are a leo with pluto on sun, however, that same cancerian mars can mellow the steam roller you might otherwise become when angered or fired up...

pisces moon, the same. for my leo sun, it is the pixie dust that makes leo traits work for me not against. it relieves me of the "selfish" or "self-centered" pitfalls of being a leo. it keeps me in touch with the "universal" and helps me feel others' energy.

having neptune and ASC in air probably helps me escape the worst "dangers" of pisces too. it has always been one of my favourite "bits".

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posted December 11, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry Nordicsoul I was just being dramatic with the alcohol reference. But yeah I thought I'd describe the more negative traits to having Pisces Moon because it seems its often overlooked in astrology to look at both the positive and the negative.

Ami, has this helped you understand Pisces Moon at all? I should mention that my Pisces Moon is in the 3rd house, so daily occurences really are not my forte and natal Moon is square Jupiter in the 6th, and Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces so that is almost like having Pisces Moon square Neptune - you definitely never know when to say no.

And Katatonic, I'm a Leo Sun as well. My moon is inconjunct my Leo sun, so there is always this inherent conflict between letting my more lunar qualities out or my more masculine - Leo traits out.

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posted December 11, 2010 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry Nordicsoul I was just being dramatic with the alcohol reference. But yeah I thought I'd describe the more negative traits to having Pisces Moon because it seems its often overlooked in astrology to look at both the positive and the negative.

Ami, has this helped you understand Pisces Moon at all? I should mention that my Pisces Moon is in the 3rd house, so daily occurences really are not my forte and natal Moon is square Jupiter in the 6th, and Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces so that is almost like having Pisces Moon square Neptune - you definitely never know when to say no.

And Katatonic, I'm a Leo Sun as well. My moon is inconjunct my Leo sun, so there is always this inherent conflict between letting my more lunar qualities out or my more masculine - Leo traits out.

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posted December 11, 2010 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Crona     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You, Glacaus, and Kat handle your Pisces Moons so beautifully on here.~

I have so much growing to do, in order to handle this most delicate and sensitive moon.

I have Pisces Moon at the end of the 2nd house, sometimes interpeted in the 3rd house. It's trines Pluto and makes an opposition to Mars in the 9th. Mars trines Saturn, which is a blessing and a curse all wrapped in a vinyl purple bow and opaque black wrapping paper.

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practice IS helpful!!

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posted December 12, 2010 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's an early degree, too, right?? I remember cos it's conjunct my Sun...

Everyone's harping about how otherworldly and off kilter Neppy transits are, but then I'm thinking, I'm already a Pisces, really, it can't be that disorienting, cos I already know disorientation :P

So here I am, heading toward my first Neptune conj Sun transit, and I stand a complete skeptic

On topic, somewhat,
I've known Pisces Moons and I don't have probs with em, yea so what we Pisces like to bliss out on occasion.

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I've come to realize that the the mundane life has no purpose

What about the frontier of Spirituality?? Have you ventured down that path as of yet? And what about just basic creative pursuits, and soul connections with other people? That's still Pisces, and not destructive..However a lil drinky-poo on a moderate basis is actually healthy. Just sayin. Oh, but I so know about obsessions and about the real world not being enough, believe me...You could get into occult things too, but I'd do my research before heading off in that direction.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 12, 2010 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Vertiver,I love to "feel" the signs and aspects.
It is the only way i can get them deep.
Thank you

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posted December 12, 2010 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me ask you a question----Anyone with strong Pisces/Neptune.

Does this give you the feeling that the world is a wool sweater which itches when you put it on?
Does stimuli seem to have the effect of strobe lights?
Do you feel barraged by people and situations like someone in a disco with too loud music and strobe lights would feel?

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posted December 12, 2010 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel pretty easily put-upon, and bright lights and loud noises make me sick (as in they make me pass out).

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posted December 12, 2010 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes to all of that stuff

Taking fish oil with its Omega 3 fatty acids DHA,EPA help make me less sensitive and emotional
A multivitamin with a strong vitamin B complex and zinc also helps too


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posted December 12, 2010 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your answers, Lonake and Raymond.
Hi Raymond, btw


Ok, let me ask you this.I have a friend with Neptune conjunct the Sun, would this person feel like this,do you think?
If you could say,would this be a stronger or weaker Pisces than say a Pisces Sun or moon.
If so, why or why not?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your help!


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posted December 12, 2010 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,
Yes, I ceased all contact. But 3 days ago he called to ask me how I was doing. At that moment I thought I could handle it and I even kind of liked it.. to know how he was doing etc.
But .. the day after my body was calling me back (it seems my mind has nothing to say) and I got physical pain etc.
I know that I'm at a point that if I DENY myself/something inside of me that my body plays up/warns me because I got very sensitive nerves after all I went through (I know that you know what I mean ).
So, I called him yesterday asking to please never call me again, told him about my body.. I even cried while saying it to let him know that I really MEAN it..

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posted December 12, 2010 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Do any of you have young mothers?
My mother was 17 when she had me.

My great grandmother had my grandfather when she was less than a month from turning 14.

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