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astra7
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posted August 10, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting how 4th H ruler tells you of one's end.

Been looking at Jim Morrison and his gf Pamela Courson's 4th H and it tells how it was.

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Pam has Mercury conj. MC. So this girl was no one yet her death was famous. Also, note Uranus (sudden) conj. IC (end).

Jim Morrison has 4th H ruler Venus in 9th H (foreign country). He died in Paris, not in the US. He also had Uranus (sudden) in the 4th H of End. Uranus conj. Mars (accidental).

They both had tSaturn in 4th H when they died and tJupiter on angle.

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posted August 11, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted August 11, 2015 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So basically you're saying Uranus touching ones IC is a death indicator? Well guess i'll be gone in a few years

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posted August 11, 2015 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd look at the 8th House, 12th House, and the 6th House; not so much the 4th House...

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posted August 11, 2015 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am interested in this subject, as most of us are. SOOO many subjects in Astrology, so little time!

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posted August 11, 2015 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the 4th house makes a lot of sense..

Specifically, the IC.. As this is the area in which the soul both enters and leaves the body.. However, I think the 8th house would also be something to look at along with the 4th.

Yes, I would say the 4th house ruler may be worth looking at. At least, in my opinion.

The 12th house goes far beyond death.. So, even while it may have some significance, I wouldn't say that it is the most significant house in regards to death.

However, regardless, I would say all water houses probably play somewhat of a role..

The 6th too.. But, I feel if there was indicators of death coming from the 6th, it more than likely would deal with more chronic problems.. However, I'm not sure about that. The 6th house has to play some kind of role though..

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posted August 12, 2015 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my 4th House ruler is the Moon. I have it in Aries in the 1st House, and its in mutual reception with chart ruler Mars in Cancer in the 4th House (bi-novile aspect between them). So I suppose I'll die by my own hand in the heat of passion?

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posted August 12, 2015 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ xD.. I don't think it is necessarily THAT simple. It's a possibility though. ;D

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posted August 12, 2015 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of 4th - Mercury in the 10th house... Yup, my career will kill me. I can see that!

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posted August 12, 2015 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So I suppose I'll die by my own hand in the heat of passion?

Hey! It's better than *my* death

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posted August 12, 2015 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 8th House situation isn't too great either (Scorpio on Cusp, Pluto in 8th, and Mars in 4th)

Ruler of the Eighth House is in its own House
Very fortunate, unless Scorpio occupies this House. A natural death. Happy ending to the life.

Ruler of the Eighth House is in the Fourth House
The father will die first. Possibility of widowhood.

"Very fortunate =D ...unless Scorpio occupies this House." - f*** me!!

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posted August 12, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Ruler of 4th - Mercury in the 10th house... Yup, my career will kill me. I can see that!

Ruler of my 4th (Virgo) is also Mercury in Aries but it's in my 11th. Sudden death by friendships??!!

How would the 11th play out?

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posted August 12, 2015 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ You better keep an eye on those friends!

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posted August 12, 2015 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars, ruler of IC, in Sagittarius in 12th house, conjunct Neptune on ASC.

I am going to drown probably; actually that already happened.
When I was about 2 years I jumped into a swimmingpool and drowned. Luckily my Dad found me pretty quickly, and luckily my lungs must have instinctively closed themselves, as I had not even swallowed any water.

BTW that was about the age when Mars had reached my ASC by solar arc. and solar arc ASC had reached Neptune. (though this could also have heralded my brother`s birth, as Neptune rules my intercepted 3rd house)

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posted August 12, 2015 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
So basically you're saying Uranus touching ones IC is a death indicator? Well guess i'll be gone in a few years



4th H rules THE END, condition at end of life after all. Jim & Pam had tSaturn. tUranus is a sudden end. I've got one coming up soon and someone is trying to kill me so... wayhey!!!

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posted August 12, 2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mars, ruler of IC, in Sagittarius in 12th house, conjunct Neptune on ASC.

I am going to drown probably; actually that already happened.
When I was about 2 years I jumped into a swimmingpool and drowned. Luckily my Dad found me pretty quickly, and luckily my lungs must have instinctively closed themselves, as I had not even swallowed any water.

BTW that was about the age when Mars had reached my ASC by solar arc. and solar arc ASC had reached Neptune. (though this could also have heralded my brother`s birth, as Neptune rules my intercepted 3rd house)



Neptune could be water, drugs(not necessarily illegal), poisoning, gas, infection etc. 4th H ruler in Sagi could mean while you are visiting/living abroad. 12th is Hospital, prison. Don't let hospital kill you. See Jim's case in my OP.

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posted August 12, 2015 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Ruler of my 4th (Virgo) is also Mercury in Aries but it's in my 11th. Sudden death by friendships??!!

How would the 11th play out?



11th H could be friends or group. I'd avoid group activity like packaged holiday???

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posted August 12, 2015 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
^^ You better keep an eye on those friends!


LOL!!!

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posted August 12, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Ceri That is amazing. Want to hear something interesting? They say moon in cancer never drowns. My luck--I would drown

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posted August 12, 2015 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4th house Taurus, ruler of my 4th is Venus which is in my Natal 6th house.

Haha imma probably die of some illness

But Jupiter is also in my 6th house

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posted August 12, 2015 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IC ruler is Neptune in 1st. I *never* did drugs and I'm very cautious to take even prescription ones. Only rarely I drink alcohol despite the fact that my grandparent had a small vineyard.

On the other hand, ever since I remember, I had recurring dreams about drowning in a peculiar way (the dreams are almost identical). I always assumed that in my last incarnation, I drowned like that.

Maybe this isn't an indication of the future, but of the past... Or maybe we are bound to repeat history.

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posted August 12, 2015 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
4th house Taurus, ruler of my 4th is Venus which is in my Natal 6th house.

Haha imma probably die of some illness

But Jupiter is also in my 6th house



Could also be work related. Be careful.

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posted August 12, 2015 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
IC ruler is Neptune in 1st. I *never* did drugs and I'm very cautious to take even prescription ones. Only rarely I drink alcohol despite the fact that my grandparent had a small vineyard.

On the other hand, ever since I remember, I had recurring dreams about drowning in a peculiar way (the dreams are almost identical). I always assumed that in my last incarnation, I drowned like that.

Maybe this isn't an indication of the future, but of the past... Or maybe we are bound to repeat history.



Sounds like you are accessing the past and having the repeate dreams. Because of that you could have a tendency to encounter same or similar situation. Hope you will find the way to change so that it won't be repeated in this life. Mexican/Toltec healing can wipe it. But in their tradition, if you drown, you will at least go to heaven....pleasant land.

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posted August 12, 2015 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha this is a funny thread.

My 4th is in Cancer. My moon is in the 6th house. I'll probably get sick and die slowly. Like lung cancer because i'm a smoker.

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posted August 12, 2015 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:

Sounds like you are accessing the past and having the repeate dreams. Because of that you could have a tendency to encounter same or similar situation. Hope you will find the way to change so that it won't be repeated in this life. Mexican/Toltec healing can wipe it. But in their tradition, if you drown, you will at least go to heaven....pleasant land.

It's cool--I was never afraid to die though I was never eager to sign off. Mexican heaven sounds awesome to me. I hope it comes packed with some lovely beaches after that nasty drowning. But truth is, if you believe in reincarnation, heaven doesn't come into play. To me it's one or the other. I guess you could become a Budha and then go to heaven or whatever comes next.

It's an interesting topic, either way.

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