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Delilah
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posted January 26, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I was on Soul Unions venting about someone and loosely writing about Moon-Mars without quite consciously making the connection.

I have the conjunction with a guy and I'm the Moon person. This is so magnetic and there's nothing about the rest of our synastry chart that says that things will go anywhere with us. I just know that I want him and am playing this game of "I want you, but just not right now." My Moon doesn't know how to handle this and is asking why are we playing this game? Can't we just be honest, accept it, and try to see where this can go?

This is where I'm experiencing the hurt. Mars wants to be chased, will play games, flirt with, date, and show interest in other women. Then come back on whatever day he's designated for you and promise all of the things you want to hear that will make you feel secure, welcome them, and love them.

Once Moon decides to create boundaries to protect herself, Mars will come along and pull Moon back into this stupid game of tag. He's sweet, charming, funny, and protective. This is how he pulls Moon back in. He either convinces Moon that there's no need to create boundaries or completely disregards the signs that you're afraid of what can/can't happen. You'll want everything, the feelings he's evoked in you, to last longer than this short period of him focusing on you, but it won't. You'll worry and wonder whether you've done something wrong. Have you come off as needy? No, you couldn't possibly have come off as needy when he's the one who started the conversation of you living together, the things that he would do to you behind closed doors, and hinting at wanting to have a family with you. He's the one who's initiated all of this, so why is he running? Better yet, why does he come charging your way once he senses that there's competition?

Because we also have Venus-Uranus, I think this has created a boomerang type of relationship. Once I think it's over for good, he comes back and wreaks more havoc than he did last time.

Guess I needed to vent some more. Lol. Anyway, would any of you who have experienced Moon-Mars in synastry say that you've related to the infamous line "I just can't quit you"?

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posted January 26, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be completely honest with you - I don't really relate to this description of Moon conjunct Mars.
I'm wondering what else may be happening in your synastry to cause these issues....

In my experience being the Moon person (twice! both very close) - the men who were Mars were strongly into me (one of them still is) to the point where they didn't seem to have eyes for anyone else. They were so smitten that I almost found it scary.
I was somewhat attracted, but I wouldn't say I was over the moon with them.. I mean I still like them both and I'm more than happy to be on friendly terms with them - but I just wouldn't really want a relationship.
As much as I think we can be well-matched sexually and we have things in common... it isn't enough. It doesn't feel emotionally intense enough (maybe other things are missing in the synastry?).

Some of the things you are describing sound like... either you have some square/oppositions to HIS outer planets (Uranus/Pluto/Neptune).... OR maybe he has some nasty aspects happening in natal.

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Mars wants to be chased, will play games, flirt with, date, and show interest in other women.

This is very much a natal issue... I mean I know men who would never behave this way.. And this is definitely one thing that is a huge NO NO in my book. I would dump him so fast he wouldn't know what hit him.
Does he have Venus in Aries or Venus retrograde? Or Venus square something?
Or Maybe his Mars is in detriment or fall... Cancer/Taurus?

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posted January 26, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't quit you is more vertex conjunct an angle or north node conjunct an angle..

I had vertex conjunct desc DW and vertex conjunct vertex and I couldn't let the guy go.

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posted January 26, 2012 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've gotta throw in here. Mars-Moon's never quite been that way for me, either. I think you're misattributing, or as BB said, it's more of a natal thing which is changing the dynamic here.

I have Mars-Moon natally, though, so maybe that's why I don't mind it. I've never really felt jerked around with it. Rather, there's a lot of energy and excitement and the sense of feeling completely energised by the activities of that house (my 3H).

My cowriter and I have it rather closely; my Moon's square his Mars; my Mars is on his Moon, fairly tight. Orb less than 2'. We do a lot of wonderful brainstorming there, too, with Uranus in both aspect configurations. I always feel pumped and ready for action!

Does it draw me to him? Well, I'm the Moon in the square, and he's the Moon in the conjunction. Maybe. I wouldn't say it's THAT compelling, though. But what do I know?

Best of luck getting to the bottom of that.

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posted January 26, 2012 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have this aspect with the guy i adooooore and i am moon and suddenly i am in love with reading books that i joined the damn book club because he leads it, i hated reading before him and now i do. how's that for a freaking can't quit you? the enrgy between us is intense amazing i want you to make love to me right right now and i want your baby too.

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posted January 26, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html

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posted January 26, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
i have this aspect with the guy i adooooore and i am moon and suddenly i am in love with reading books that i joined the damn book club because he leads it, i hated reading before him and now i do. how's that for a freaking can't quit you? the enrgy between us is intense amazing i want you to make love to me right right now and i want your baby too.

LMAO this is sooo funny hahaha sooo true!!!

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posted January 26, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not for this Moon. I didn't want Mars in the first place.

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posted January 26, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon-mars trine with my husband and a square in my natal chart as well, so I guess this energy doesn't really effect me when it has to do with others, maybe because I am so used to the harsher aspect in within myself? We can be a bit needy but that might just be due to my cancer moon trineing his scorpio mars?

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posted January 26, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there is a huge sexual attraction with Moon/Mars that can't be denied. The Mars person is very handsy, though, as in they will always want to touch Moon. Is it as magnetic as Vertex/ASC aspects? No, because Vx/ASC is more all encompassing. But there is a definite pull to make things "physical" with Moon/Mars imo.

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posted January 26, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it's because their Mars squares mine, as well. I was never attracted to them.

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posted January 26, 2012 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
i have this aspect with the guy i adooooore and i am moon and suddenly i am in love with reading books that i joined the damn book club because he leads it, i hated reading before him and now i do. how's that for a freaking can't quit you? the enrgy between us is intense amazing i want you to make love to me right right now and i want your baby too.

Ha! I have to admit, he has basically taken every suggestion I've made in some form or another. I really liked a particular look - he incorporated it into his stage attire. Would never mention it, of course. Sag is too proud or something for that.

I later discovered I had to be rather conscious of what I 'asked' him to do - because most of the time, and especially when I thought he wasn't even paying attention - later, he'd do it!

But lucky for him, it made him the one person who isn't an astrologer in my life -actually- appreciate and find interest in my astro-ramblings.

Powerful stuff, I'm learning.

It turns out, I have this surprisingly commonly with many men in my life in varying degrees. Friends of mine, exes, or my husband. They seem to really dig my Saggy Mars. I was always wondering, 'WHAT is up with me and these lunar Sag men?'

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posted January 26, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Not for this Moon. I didn't want Mars in the first place.

Yeah, you should ALWAYS check the natals when it comes to especially intense aspects. I'm guessing the only reason it works is because of my Mars being what it is - Sag. I just end up seeming more like one of the guys, so they loosen up around me. The fact that I'm -very- obviously not lends itself to this attraction which grows from a very energetic friendship.

I especially love the quintile to my partner's Venus. It seems to take some of that intensity off so that our brainstorming sessions are something to behold.

I think the most memorable so far has been, 'F*ck me sweetly with a chainsaw. That's BRILLIANT!'

He's the only one that finds my, erm, brand of cursing to be 'becoming'. (Which is probably why he responded, 'How about a sledgehammer? Sufficiently wrong, but so girthy it's good.')

... We're terrible people.

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posted January 26, 2012 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have Moon-Mars in Aries. I don't have his birth time, so saying that his Moon makes whatever aspects is irrelevant, but yes, he has Venus in Aries. I don't have an aspect between my Moon and Mars.

We've talked about children... He brought them up and I was thinking "wtf?! How did we get here? We just met!" When we talk, it's like he's already decided on things that mean uprooting my life to accommodate him. When I broke things off, I couldn't stay away, but we agreed to just be friends. As soon as I started talking to someone else and showed interest in them, he popped up and started talking about us as if we were a couple.

His Neptune squares my Moon and before I looked up the aspects between our charts, I had this feeling that he was only appeasing me because he wanted to avoid a big emotional scene. I asked him to be as honest with me as possible and told him that it was okay if he's not interested in me and that it would be better if he were honest now than for me to find out later on.

We don't have anything in synastry that would point to mutual love. His natal chart isn't so bad either, yet he's claimed to have gone through the worst in relationships.

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posted January 26, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an email or sms idea....

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Dear Mr. Aries Venus,

Do you realise that - If your father had behaved the way you are behaving now - when he met your mother - you would not have come into existence?

This officially makes you an evolutionary nightmare.

best,
Delilah

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posted January 26, 2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somebody that talks marriage, kids, love in the initial stages you better RUN from. BIG HUGE red flag right there.

Anyway he pops up cos he still wants your attention, it's all about being selfish and having all eyes on him so to speak. Personally I'd only look at actions, and if a guy behaved like how he is, I'd cut my losses and let the guy go. Gonna find me a man, not a little boy who doesn't know what the hell they want (and pretends like they do)

You deserve the best, don't settle for anything less. He sounds like a commitment phobe. Why have that when you can have a stable committed dream of a man?

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posted January 26, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty,

I love that more than you know. 'Evolutionary nightmare'. Brill! What a snappy, pithy, perfect way to handle it.


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posted January 26, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex that was unfaithful did this to me to. What your guy did. Believe me, in his head he just wants to be free. But he wants the emotional support and attention from you. It's all a big mind game. My guy even proposed. Meant nothing. All just a ploy to keep me close and catering to his whims. =(

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Somebody that talks marriage, kids, love in the initial stages you better RUN from. BIG HUGE red flag right there.

Anyway he pops up cos he still wants your attention, it's all about being selfish and having all eyes on him so to speak. Personally I'd only look at actions, and if a guy behaved like how he is, I'd cut my losses and let the guy go. Gonna find me a man, not a little boy who doesn't know what the hell they want (and pretends like they do)

You deserve the best, don't settle for anything less. He sounds like a commitment phobe. Why have that when you can have a stable committed dream of a man?



This is gold.

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posted January 26, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMFAOOOOOOOO so today the mars guy was beyond nervous around me. it was beyond obvious. kept on stuttering looooool and i was jut looking at him like seriously. what are you doing? i do think this aspect is pretty strong.

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posted January 28, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:

I have the conjunction with a guy and I'm the Moon person. This is so magnetic and there's nothing about the rest of our synastry chart that says that things will go anywhere with us. I just know that I want him and am playing this game of "I want you, but just not right now." My Moon doesn't know how to handle this and is asking why are we playing this game? Can't we just be honest, accept it, and try to see where this can go?

Anyway, would any of you who have experienced Moon-Mars in synastry say that you've related to the infamous line "I just can't quit you"?


I CANNOT quit this moon guy. Yeah i have the exact same thing, our synastry indicates we would be great great friends but romantically we probably wouldn't go anywhere, but yeah, we're like magnets for each other. the attraction is INSANE. i'm the mars...i do want to touch him a lot. lol i'm trying to talk myself into stopping playing games/being so shy and to just go for it.

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posted January 28, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
I CANNOT quit this moon guy. Yeah i have the exact same thing, our synastry indicates we would be great great friends but romantically we probably wouldn't go anywhere, but yeah, we're like magnets for each other. the attraction is INSANE. i'm the mars...i do want to touch him a lot. lol i'm trying to talk myself into stopping playing games/being so shy and to just go for it.

His Mars also sextiles my Jupiter and my Mars squares his Jupiter. I have never been so sexually forward with anyone. I think our synastry only promises great sex and a lot of it, but not much else to say we would want a long lasting relationship, at least not him. His Moon may trine my Mars, but I'm not sure because I don't have his birth time. Even though I know it isn't likely to go anywhere with us, I want to do so many naughty things to him.

We also have a couple of double whammies, so that might explain the intensity a little more. Where one of my planets aspects his softly, his same planets aspect mine harshly or vice versa.

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posted January 28, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Here is an email or sms idea....

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Dear Mr. Aries Venus,

Do you realise that - If your father had behaved the way you are behaving now - when he met your mother - you would not have come into existence?

This officially makes you an evolutionary nightmare.

best,
Delilah

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Lol. That is a long story...

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posted January 28, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Somebody that talks marriage, kids, love in the initial stages you better RUN from. BIG HUGE red flag right there.

Anyway he pops up cos he still wants your attention, it's all about being selfish and having all eyes on him so to speak. Personally I'd only look at actions, and if a guy behaved like how he is, I'd cut my losses and let the guy go. Gonna find me a man, not a little boy who doesn't know what the hell they want (and pretends like they do)

You deserve the best, don't settle for anything less. He sounds like a commitment phobe. Why have that when you can have a stable committed dream of a man?


Yeah. He only wants to talk when it's convenient for him, nevermind if I have time. After telling him that I don't have time he'll disappear for days. No games are being played on my part. I even offer to call him back when I'm done with whatever and he doesn't answer.

I thought that I had met someone else who was better suited for me (there were no games; we were open and honest about what we wanted and liked each other), but then he came back at the exact moment the thought of being with this other guy crossed my mind.

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