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BeTrue77
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posted January 13, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This morning, I received sad news that my beloved boss died of a heart attack last night. Fortunately, I was scheduled to work from home today, so I was able to spend the day at home grieving and processing the loss.

I don't know much about predictive astrology, but decided to check out his progressed chart and transits to see whether anything stood out, which may have pointed to his death at this time. What I found was interesting. Apparently, his progressed Sun is now exactly conjunct his Pluto, both at 16 deg Leo. Also, transiting Saturn is now opposing his natal Sun by one degree.
Does that sound about right, as possible astrological indicators of his death, at least in this particular case?

His date of birth was June 4, 1950, but I do not know the time; therefore, I am not able to check the houses, etc.

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Faith
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posted January 13, 2016 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for your loss...those are some hard aspects & transits you mentioned.

I will look at the chart and see if I see anything else, though I am not an expert.

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posted January 13, 2016 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My progressed Sun is conjuncting my natal pluto and progressed pluto and this has been the case for a long time and no near death experiences here...

Why don't you post his natal and transits?

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posted January 13, 2016 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BeTrue77
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posted January 13, 2016 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for checking out his chart, Faith. That is very interesting! I think that there is a mix-up, however. He was a Gemini, not a Cancer. Birthdate of June 4, 1950, born in Alexandria, VA. Do you think that you may have entered "July" instead of "June," when you ran his chart?

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posted January 13, 2016 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia, here is the natal chart plus transits, as you requested. Thanks.

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Faith
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posted January 13, 2016 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BeTrue77:
Thank you so much for checking out his chart, Faith. That is very interesting! I think that there is a mix-up, however. He was a Gemini, not a Cancer. Birthdate of June 4, 1950, born in Alexandria, VA. Do you think that you may have entered "July" instead of "June," when you ran his chart?

Yikes!

Well it wouldn't have been a good day for July 4th people either...now we know.

Hang on...

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Also, transiting Saturn is now opposing his natal Sun by one degree.

Tr Saturn exactly square natal Saturn, too.

It's interesting if he had an Aqua moon and Uranus squaring the nodes. Then he died with tr Uranus forming a grand fire trine with his Pluto and tr Venus.

Tr Mars was opposing his Venus. Mars ruling his Aries NN, Venus ruling his Libra SN.

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posted January 13, 2016 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Hypatia, I certainly did not mean to imply that Progressed Sun conjunct Pluto would always result in physical death. In his case, he had been suffering from numerous medical issues for many years, and he neglected his health, including excessive smoking and drinking.

In your case, have you noticed other types of intense changes or transformations during this period of time? Or perhaps it is manifesting in an entirely different way for you.

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posted January 13, 2016 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN

Yes, our own Sun can be intimately tied into our death time. It should be, because the Sun is the epitome, the bottom-line of ourselves for this lifetime. Remember, the two big ‘triggers’ in progressed charts is your Mars and Sun. I see the Sun in usually, older people’s charts, and it truly is their time–they’ve learned all they could for this life (and they usually have) and now, it is a window of opportunity to go and pass over to another exciting adventure in the invisible realms.

Many times, in many deaths, the Sun is not prominent. I see this as an ‘early option’ of leaving because things were either learned more quickly than anticipated by the soul, or the person had made too many wrong choices and was way off track from what they had wanted to learn and there was no way to back track to get on that path again. With the Sun involved, it usually means the person has truly fulfilled all there soul desires this time around and it is a natural time to move on.

A Sun death can be slow or quick. Usually, there is some beautiful gift of awareness, a deeper soul connection made with the self before passing–a gift is given because these people have earned such grace by working hard, being responsible and shouldering the loads they came in to carry and learn from or give back to humanity in the balance of their unique karma.

http://www.medicalastrology.medicinegarden.com/2011/09/death-aspects-in -astrology-by-eileen-nauman-dhm/

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posted January 13, 2016 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 13, 2016 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha ha, yes, it is good to know about July 4, 1950 as well.

Wow, that does sound as though he was dealing with a lot of harsh Saturnine energy.

I have been experiencing a lot of Saturn as well. Right now, Saturn is directly opposite my Mars at 12 deg Gemini and also opposes my Venus at 10 degrees Gemini, so I guess his death is one of the ways that this Saturn transit is affecting me right now as well.

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posted January 13, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeTrue77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the information, Hypatia. That was beautiful and very pertinent to this particular person, IMO. He was a very wise and beautiful soul with no ego whatsoever. Everyone in the office loved him and sought him out for his wise counsel. To me he was an embodiment of a true Bodhisattva. I believe that he was ready to move on from this world, so your post confirms what I had already suspected. That is very comforting to know. Thank you.

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posted January 13, 2016 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BeTrue77:
Thank you for the information, Hypatia. That was beautiful and very pertinent to this particular person, IMO. He was a very wise and beautiful soul with no ego whatsoever. Everyone in the office loved him and sought him out for his wise counsel. To me he was an embodiment of a true Bodhisattva. I believe that he was ready to move on from this world, so your post confirms what I had already suspected. That is very comforting to know. Thank you.

Glad to hear it, it looks like transit Saturn was forming a kite with his SUN-NEPTUNE-MOON grand trine so the Sun interpretation you feel is a confirmation makes sense.

Further Transit Saturn is semisextile Uranian Poseidon exact so Poseidon is tapping into that kite at time of death:

POSEIDON

This Uranian planet is very often involved in a death aspect. One wouldn’t think so, but it is, or at least in the charts I’ve seen over the years. When you think about it, having Poseidon around when you die, is the perfect close to one door and the opening of another.

Poseidon was the God of the Ocean. Consider it a higher spiritual octave of Neptune. Consider it the ‘master’ energy expression far beyond Neptune. It symbolizes the ‘initiate.’ This planet is about TRUTH. Truth or lies, depending upon the person, their energy expression and where they are at in their spiritual evolvement.

People who have Poseidon active at the time they die have seen their personal Truth. By dying, they receive incredible illumination during the death transit. Frequently, I see Poseidon active in slow, gradual deaths. And it is only when the end has finally come, that this planet makes its final station, that the person gets some kind of incredible, soul breakthrough. A great, wonderful, Cosmic “aha!” is the blessing of Poseidon. And once they have this aha moment, they pass over quickly.

^Poseidon is inconjuncting his Sun WOW!

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Faith
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posted January 13, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks hypatia

And thanks for what you posted here, it all makes sense.

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Yes, our own Sun can be intimately tied into our death time. It should be, because the Sun is the epitome, the bottom-line of ourselves for this lifetime. Remember, the two big ‘triggers’ in progressed charts is your Mars and Sun. I see the Sun in usually, older people’s charts, and it truly is their time–they’ve learned all they could for this life (and they usually have) and now, it is a window of opportunity to go and pass over to another exciting adventure in the invisible realms.

My father's progressed sun conjunct tr sun when he died, within a few degrees; pr Mars conjunct tr Mars exact. He was older and had completed an interesting, highly spiritual journey.

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posted January 13, 2016 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks hypatia

And thanks for what you posted here, it all makes sense.

My father's progressed sun conjunct tr sun when he died, within a few degrees; pr Mars conjunct tr Mars exact. He was older and had completed an interesting, highly spiritual journey.


Very cool.

Checking out my Grandpa's day of death.

He had on day of death progressed Sun in Virgo @21d42 conjuncting his natal Moon and uranian poseidon and transit Moon was conjuncting all that and opposing my own moon. I told him the day before that it was ok that he could go, he was hanging on bc he felt he had to for us, he was 97 years old and in pain and time for him to let go. I miss him the most and grandma, he was the last of my grandparents.

May he and your father RIP.

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Faith
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posted January 14, 2016 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you -- and wow, your grandfather's passing has amazing timing, too.

I couldn't get astro.com to load earlier, I finally got the chart for my father's passing, and no, tr Mars not exactly on pr Mars, I jumbled it a bit:

Tr Mars exactly on his natal ASC
Tr Mars conjunct pr Mars less than 2
Tr sun conjunct pr sun less than 3
Poseidon on the pr MC, 1.31

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