posted February 18, 2016 02:34 PM            

But can it also make you miss it when people truly do love you? Or would that be thanks to Saturn touching Venus? And I don't mean someone thinking they are incapable of being loved. Just, not being able to see it when someone actually does.

Maybe it's a combination. Neptune raising those standards to unreachable heights for what love should look and feel like. Saturn making it difficult to accept real love, with Neptune backing it up because it doesn't match the fantasyland romance.

Wow, that sounds tragic.

posted February 18, 2016 06:10 PM            

I have Venus conjunct Neptune very tight. And yes i do have "unrealistic expectations in love" a lot of the times. I can daydream 24/7 when i develop a crush on someone. But i never went through a unrequited love situation(i mean when i'm the one who's in love).

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Originally posted by LionFish:
But can it also make you miss it when people truly do love you? Or would that be thanks to Saturn touching Venus?

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posted February 18, 2016 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Vegasdlt36:
I have:

Venus conjunct Neptune Orb 2°50 &
Venus Square Saturn Orb 2°54

I'm not satisfied in/with my marriage, that is what I know.

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posted February 18, 2016 07:26 PM            

Have had significant inner-trust issues with people, that has really stung me in my lifetime. I've made poor-picks of partners, giving trust away to some who didn't deserve it, while at the same time maybe 'missing' to notice the ones who really really DID care about me personally. People can get a certain level in, then something automatic in me begins to distrust their motives? -- I've tried to overcompensate by overriding my own boundaries and 'allowing' people in who were never 'worthy' to receive the love, the caring, (and the financial bail-outs ~ oy, I've got some big stories there, from my past!-- and I hope that energy STAYS past! LOL).

I don't mean to push people away. They just sometimes feel that boundary inside me. I need to assert boundaries... I have a very warm inside, and many hurts and past wounds, too.

I have a tremendous gift for Loyalty in Love-- 'staying-power'. The one I care for deeply, I care for in an eternal-Soul way, lots of depth and much forgiveness, so much time--- UNTIL they do something that is so outrageous, consistent, and in a last-time kind of way becomes 'the deal-breaker' with me. Then, it's off.

Adele's 'Hello from the other-side' ...

posted February 18, 2016 07:54 PM            

I love your honesty.

posted February 18, 2016 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
mirage

I love your honesty.

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Thank you....

You KNOW I 'work' HARD on it. Might make errors, ~omg!!! But I'm persistent!!! I don't give up for long. When I fall, I get back up, dust myself off, and won't say Quit!

And I'm going to have more and MORE people in my life who understand, Bless, and keep unconditionally loving me through ALL of it UNTIL I have my breakthroughs, bursting like popcorn. It's Time for the Healing and resolve....

posted February 18, 2016 08:24 PM            

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But can it also make you miss it when people truly do love you?

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They might have truly loved me but not in a way that made me feel loved.

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Or would that be thanks to Saturn touching Venus? And I don't mean someone thinking they are incapable of being loved. Just, not being able to see it when someone actually does.

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I think the combination is tough, as you said. Saturn is realism and Neptune is dreams. We want both, when Venus aspects both.

For the most part I always kept my dream life and dating life separate...

Though my best relationships were just a natural progression from friendship to romance. Pretty well-grounded all along. The trouble came after the break-up, since Venus trine Saturn isn't the best at letting go and moving on. And Venus conjunct Neptune replays the best memories over and over.

At that point I was also not trusting so even if the guy came back (and they always did), I was really in a bad situation. I loved them but wouldn't risk getting hurt again, so it's like being a ghost caught between dimensions. Couldn't move on, or give it another shot. Fortunately it's Sagittarius so I did figure out other things to do besides wallow.

posted February 18, 2016 09:14 PM            

He defently has a hard time being in a committed relationship and has a hard time finding the right girl he feels that can be the "one". He once said on his FB that "Need some love in my life you guys im honestly just looking for casual romance nothing anything serious just want someone to go to the movies with and a hug...." And later on he has stated again that he has high expectations of girls that he dates that's why he does not stay in a relationship for to long because he gets bored.

You would think that because he's a scorpio he would be faithfully committed 100% HES not......he doesn't even know what real love is if he is constantly shopping around for girls and gets bored very fast that's because of his house placement being in the 9th house plus that sextile to neptune adds his unrealistic ideas about what love is supposed to be. He is so mutable I don't even see him being a fixed individual. He is also VERY handsome everyone thinks that he has a great personality which totally gives off the libra vibe that being his sun CONJUNCT venus exact PLUS he's got moon opposite venus which sucks imo. He will defently have a hard time finding someone that will meet his taste in nurture and desire.

posted February 18, 2016 10:16 PM            

I don't think I've imagined feelings not there (which isn't to say I've made some wrong assumptions, but I figured it out fast enough), but I have been surprised by the devotion of some people, particularly in romantic terms. I'd explain, but it would require a lot of explanation because of the assumptions of some people from an abbreviated explanation and therefore won't make any explanation at all.

But one incident that touched me deeply, and completely surprised me...when I entered into a lesbian relationship with a woman, I had a talk with both of her little kids in private and explained it might make problems for them, and if they wanted me to leave then I would, and I would not tell their mother I did so because of them. Both wanted me to stay, and yet as they did run into problems (threatening our place to live, some "loving" parents not wanting their own kids "around that" and thus not allowed to interact with our kids, and so on) I wondered if they were changing their mind as this seemed to be my fight, not theirs, to take it on the chin.

posted February 18, 2016 11:45 PM            

It is very true that I usually underestimate or overestimate how much someone loves me. Mostly I feel unworthy of receiving as much love as I am capable of giving. After all - my beloved is perfect and I clearly am not!

posted February 18, 2016 11:58 PM              

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It is very true that I usually underestimate or overestimate how much someone loves me. Mostly I feel unworthy of receiving as much love as I am capable of giving. After all - my beloved is perfect and I clearly am not!

I have spent vast amounts of time over my life pondering about what would be a perfect and ideal relationship, what does love really mean etc.

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posted February 19, 2016 01:55 PM            

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I've made poor-picks of partners, giving trust away to some who didn't deserve it, while at the same time maybe 'missing' to notice the ones who really really DID care about me personally

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I have venus square neptune and uranus
and venus trine saturn

I have the same problem of giving the complete trust, to the person I love to the degree of blindness.
when everything is ****** up, he blamed me for trusting him, huh.

so it's important for the person with these aspects to keep the "question marks" in the relationship there to rely on.

posted February 19, 2016 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ Lysco... {{ }}

(music) What Is Love [Baby don't hurt me no more] (Haddaway, lyrics) [4:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuDEP6eFkeA

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Old songs , thank you I really liked it :*

check out this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFeHWcVGiJQ

posted March 17, 2016 03:59 AM            

If you profess to love the person, don’t be cliché and do the whole flowers and candy thing. It won’t have the effect that you think.

You need to be a little unusual and creative. Unless the combination is in Pisces, Libra, Cancer or Leo. Then you can go wild on these things

Venus/Neptune conjunct seems not to mind the romantic movie clichés. Neptune on Venus can be incredibly soppy IME- unless Neptune is in Cap/Sag or Scor. Otherwise these guys seem to not mind these gestures at all.

Both are very similar in denying love and affection. Or in disbelieving it.

Neptune has the problem of wanting it to be all glamour and lights. And Saturn is ever the minimalist.

Both tend to feel under-appreciated but it is usually Neptune who is prone to grow changeable and restless- perhaps looking for love elsewhere .And becoming sort of a “lovesick” person.

Saturn can starve themselves off it for years. Seeing it as “unnecessary” and growing ever more fearful of it as the years go by.

posted March 17, 2016 07:43 AM            

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Helloooo

I have Venus conjunct Neptune very tight. And yes i do have "unrealistic expectations in love" a lot of the times. I can daydream 24/7 when i develop a crush on someone. But i never went through a unrequited [b]love situation(i mean when i'm the one who's in love).[/b]

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Yes, Neptune/Venus does love its romantic scenarios!
Not every Venus/Neptune native experiences unrequited love, but a lot of the time if that's what is going on, there is either one person with Venus/Neptune or a Venus/Neptune aspect between them. It can be bliss when these two meet, as well. Imagine a Pisces Venus with Neptune in Cap

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I think you mean that Venus/Saturn can make someone naive? Like... everyone knows that the person X likes Y but the person itself doesn't notice? Well i don't think this aspect can do that ??????
I have Venus quintile Saturn exact.

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posted March 17, 2016 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Vegasdlt36:
I have:

Venus conjunct Neptune Orb 2°50 &
Venus Square Saturn Orb 2°54

I'm not satisfied in/with my marriage, that is what I know.

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I'm sorry to hear that

posted March 17, 2016 08:09 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
I recently heard a description of Saturn (Saturn in Scorpio, for me) as 'Frozen'... I have the Saturn opp Venus.

Have had significant inner-trust issues with people, that has really stung me in my lifetime. I've made poor-picks of partners, giving trust away to some who didn't deserve it, while at the same time maybe 'missing' to notice the ones who really really DID care about me personally. People can get a certain level in, then something automatic in me begins to distrust their motives? -- I've tried to overcompensate by overriding my own boundaries and 'allowing' people in who were never 'worthy' to receive the love, the caring, (and the financial bail-outs ~ oy, I've got some big stories there, from my past!-- and I hope that energy STAYS past! LOL).

I don't mean to push people away. They just sometimes feel that boundary inside me. I need to assert boundaries... I have a very warm inside, and many hurts and past wounds, too.

I have a tremendous gift for Loyalty in Love-- 'staying-power'. The one I care for deeply, I care for in an eternal-Soul way, lots of depth and much forgiveness, so much time--- UNTIL they do something that is so outrageous, consistent, and in a last-time kind of way becomes 'the deal-breaker' with me. Then, it's off.

Adele's 'Hello from the other-side' ...

Always stretching and growing here. Keep Going, Keep Hoping.

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Oi vey, mirage! Yes! Thank you for sharing!

My heart breaks thinking what you could have been through, giving yourself to people who didn't deserve you while ignoring those who did. Ugh. This is exactly what I was talking about. I'm glad I'm not the only one, but I wish none of us had to experience it.

And yes to the loyalty. Loyal until it hurts too much to hang on..

posted March 17, 2016 12:32 PM            

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It can even show the reason for unrequited love by allowing the native to perceive feelings that may have never been felt by the other in the first place.

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This has been the case my whole life. Having crushes on people who would never reciprocate and being confused because i could swear they were interested. I just get lost in things. My mind wanders away and makes up stories and creates unrealistic expectations. Venus conjunct neptune.

And then there is the square from saturn to venus. I grew up feeling like i didnt deserve to be loved because I was/am highly critical of myself. I think that holds me back from many things, but then the whole neptune thing makes me delusional and i end up thinking wow i was right no one CAN love me.