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"A ‘free Huber chart’ facility is available on http://www.astro.com (from front page go to ‘extended chart selection’, and don’t forget to select ‘Koch houses’). This provides free Huber-style natal, house and nodal charts plus chart data and age progression dates, which can be viewed on screen or printed off. The charts are not to the highest standards, and do not have the flexibility of the MegaStar, Regulus and AstroCora, but they should prove adequate for many purposes." ... http://astrologicalpsychology.org/resources/software-for-huber-style-charts/

This "huber chart facility" seems to be accessed only rarely (if at all) by members of this forum, and I wonder if that might be because very little information exists about their (intended) purpose and how to actually use them (as additions to our preferred/everyday astrology system, rather than as a separate stand-alone astrology system).

So ... as an attempt to clarify what is currently "out there somewhere" ... I'm hoping it might be of some value for me to outline (on this thread) my own understanding of the the purpose of these huber astrological psychology "tools", and how to use them to glean information which may not otherwise be revealed by our usual analysis, interpretation and synthesis of a natal chart + its derivatives.

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I guess the first step is to link to the existing astrodienst forum threads on this at https://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1347079749

And then to list here, and provide an image of, what is currently available at astro.com. ... So, using Muhammad Ali as the example/chart-owner, this is :-



Each of these charts has "additional tables" that provide more information, but I have extracted (for the natal chart) only the two tables above - which show the high/low/balanced energy points of each natal house; the progressed location of the age point each year and the "dynamical evaluations" of the natal signs + houses.

At this stage though ... note the reversal of the sign wheel in the Moon Node Chart, and the uneven size of the signs in the house chart (due to the houses themselves each being drawn as 30 degrees wide). ... And observe the subtle modifications made by these differences to the aspect patterns in the inner circle.

Finally ... bear in mind that these 3 charts relate directly to Assagioli's "Egg" model of psychosynthesis, described at http://zoepopper.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/an-introduction-to-psychosynthesi s-the-consciousness-egg/ ... Natal Chart = Middle Unconsciousness : Moon Node Chart = doorway between Middle Unconscious and Lower Unconscious : House Chart = doorway between Middle Unconscious and Higher Unconscious.
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The Natal Chart

1. The first thing we look at is the natal chart - and the first thing we do with that is to meditate upon the (unique-to-the-observer) image created in our mind by the aspect lines in the inner circle. {This is to engage the right-brain in our analysis of the chart, which the Hubers believed to be an essential requirement.)

And ... in my case ... the image I see in Muhammad Ali's chart is that of a mountain being formed in 3 distinct stages.
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2. Next ... we look at the individual aspect patterns made by the lines in the inner circle. ... Only ptolemaic aspects are valid in Huber astrology, and they are made only by planets and the North Node.

In Ali's chart ... there is a Grand Trine (Sun-Neptune-Saturn+Uranus) : a Learning Triangle (Jupiter-NN-Moon+Mercury) : a Tsquare (Sun-Mars-Pluto) ... and a kind of "I wish" struggle to create a tsquare connection for Pluto-Uranus+Saturn-Sun+Moon+Mercury+Venus.

These patterns are then analysed, interpreted and synthesised in the same way as one does in all astrology systems - but the Hubers researched them extensively, before writing "Aspect Pattern Astrology" (a book that I regard as a must-have for anyone practicing modern/psychological astrology).
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3. At this point, we will already have acquired a good understanding of "the person depicted by the chart". ... But, we look next at the high. low and balance points of the energy levels in each house ... noting if any planet (or the North Node) is within one degree of a conjunction to them.

Planets that are conjunct the cusp/high-energy-point will be very visible to others; planets at the low-point will seem (to the chart owner) to go unnoticed by others and balance-point planets will be "comfortable in their own skin".

These 3 energy points are shown on the extreme outer rim of the wheel diagram ... with the house cusp being the high energy point, the first (anticlockwise) marker being the balance-point and the second being the low-point. ... Their degree locations are also shown in the Additional House Data Table.

In Ali's chart, Uranus is at the balance-point of the 10th house (so he was very comfortable with standing alone/apart from the herd). ... It also has Venus at the cusp/high-energy-point of the 7th house (and his attractiveness was highly visible, to both men and women - as was his hetro-sexuality). ... There is nothing at a low-energy-point (and indeed, nothing about the "I am the greatest" Ali went unnoticed by others.
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4. Our use of the natal chart will then be completed by looking at the Dynamical evaluation table.

This is about nature-nurture/childhood conditioning, and is best used by the chart owner himself/herself (as a mechanism for increasing self-awareness) rather than as a tool for sharpening the astrologer's overall "picture of the person".

It is based upon the Huber's conclusion that sign placements show the chart-owner's instinctive/natural way of behaving and the house placements reveal the extent to which the people with whom he/she interacts will attempt to change that natural behaviour. ... So, this table attempts to quantify the potential stress that the chart-owner will experience from his/her "nature vs nurture" conflict in the current lifetime.

Thus, the total strength of the planets (+ North Node) is calculated twice - once for sign placements, and once for house placements. ... The sign totals are then subtracted from the house totals, and a +/positive difference indicates that the person is being impelled to develop more of the quality - whilst a -/negative difference indicates he/she has more of that quality than others will want.

Scores between +5 and +25 indicate that the the stress created by this "impelling" will stimulate a healthy psychological growth in the chart owner. ... However, scores below +5 indicate unwanted energy (that will create unhealthy stress if not used elsewhere) - and scores above +25 indicate insufficient energy to meet the demands of others (that will create unhealthy stress, unless reduced or handled via an effective coping strategy). ... Scores of +65 indicate potential "burn-out" (if not dealt with appropriately).

So, can anyone relate the Dynamical evaluation table of Muhammad Ali to his eventual onset of Parkinson's Disease? (And, would Ali have listened to anyone that had been able to predict it before his nature took him into "one fight too many"?)

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The Houses Chart

1. In Huber natal charts, signs are of equal size (30 degrees) and houses are of unequal size - whilst in Huber house charts, houses are of equal size (30 degrees) and signs are of unequal size. ... Thus, the natal chart views the ecliptic subjectively (from the birthplace/location-on-Earth) whilst the house chart views it objectively - and Bruno Huber found that the latter also provides an objective view of the person/chart owner. ... So, the house chart reveals how the person is seen by the world and how the world will behave towards him/her.

2. The House chart is analysed, interpreted and synthesised in the same way as the natal chart. ... But, when doing so, we are looking at behavioural traits which are being learned in the current lifetime (in response to how the world behaves towards us).

3. The House chart is always considered alongside the Natal chart, because we are looking at how the person's nature is being modified by nurture - and whether that will place a healthy or unhealthy level of stress upon him/her.

4. For example, comparing the aspect patterns of Ali's House and Natal Charts immediately reveals that the red Pluto-Mars line in the latter has been replaced by a blue Pluto-Neptune line in the former. ... So, someone in his childhood/adolescence (perhaps Angelo Dundee) was trying hard to steer his stubborn Taurus Mars in a different direction.
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Astrological Psychology - The Huber Approach (published by the Astrological Psychology Association) contains the following guidance on working with the house chart :-

"The house chart provides us with an objective view of the individual. It shows what the world tried to impress upon us in our formative years backed up by the conditioning and influences we received from our family, friends, teachers, schools, community, religion and culture - and it incorporates our inherited traits and potential with our taught traits."

"The first step when studying your house chart is to look at the overall picture your chart presents and let an intuitive image come up. Is it similar to or different from your natal chart? Did the environment see you (and subsequently treat you) in a very different way from that which is indicated in your natal chart?"

Subsequent steps involve looking for detailed changes between the radix and house chart ... colour balance, chart shape, aspect patterns , Sun-Saturn-Moon (family model) relationship, planets at high/low/balanced energy points, and so on. ... And the guidance concludes with :-

"what we need to remember is that the contents of the house chart are a moveable feast. We can choose from the menu those elements which are the most positive and useful to us. If we can choose consciously, we will gain the most benefit. The amount of freedom we have to move from the house to the natal chart depends on how awake and aware we are, and on our ability to choose."

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The Moon Nodes Chart

"Expressed in terms of depth psychology, the Moon Node chart makes visible the shadow of our personality. We all have an invisible part of our nature containing drives, wishes and projections. Since these are not accessible to our waking consciousness, we usually suppress them - as they are unusable or even dangerous in everyday life. Thus, this shadow in us is usually designated as negative or 'black'.

However, we also unconsciously suppress personal qualities and character traits that are positive - simply because they do not fit into the dogmatism of our thinking, or are not welcome by our environment. It is important to realise that they are nonetheless parts of ourselves which do not find outward expression, and that we use up considerable energy in keeping them hidden from consciousness." ... (Extracted from Astrological Psychology - The Huber Method ... written and published by the Astrological Psychology Association.)

1. In this chart, the north node of the radical/natal chart becomes the ascendant degree - and the ascendant degree of the radical/natal chart becomes the North Node. ... This is because the Hubers agreed with the theory that the Ascendant of the last incarnation is the North Node of the current incarnation.

2. Equal houses are used, but the signs are placed clockwise around the zodiac circle. ... This is because the Age Point progresses backwards through the zodiac signs of the Moon Node chart, and forwards through them in the radical/natal chart.

3. Hence - what changes (in the two charts) is the house locations of the planets, and the aspects made by them to the North Node. ... So, these are what we need to look at.

4. However, we should also note the point/degree-location at which the two Age Points meet (in their respective clockwise and anti-clockwise cycle through the signs). ... Because, these two crossings invariably highlight a significant change in the life of the chart-owner - with the second being linked to the first, and taking place exactly 36 years later. ... [To find the crossover point**, visually track the Age Point's 6-years-per-house ANTI-clockwise progressions around both charts to identify the sign (and age/year) at which they meet. Then, track them in both charts at monthly intervals to identify the month at which they meet.]

5. For Ali, those crossover points happened in July 1980 and 2016. ... In July 1980, he was refusing to listen to the pleas of his doctors and trainer (Angelo Dundee) to NOT fight the reigning heavyweight champion of the world (Larry Holmes). The fight took place in October 1980, and he suffered a severe beating that (his doctors believed) resulted in him later being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease - from which he eventually died on 3rd June 2016.

6. However, I have too much admiration and affection for this exceptional person to outline here how his inability to listen to the advice of others is revealed by his Moon Node chart and led to the the eventual "undoing" of a physical specimen that should have lived well beyond the age of 74.
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** The Age Points in both the radix and the Moon Nodes chart move/progress anti-clockwise through houses 1 to 12, starting at (and returning to) the Ascendant degree. However, the signs are anti-clockwise in the Radix and clockwise in the Nodes chart. So both Age Points are progressing (anti-clockwise) through the houses at a speed of 6-years-per-house - but the signs in those houses are not the same UNTIL THE TWO AGE POINTS APPROACH THEIR CROSSOVER POINT.

Thus, we visually track the Age Points every 6 years (when they arrive at the house cusp) until both are in the same sign. In Ali's chart, that happens in the 7th house (where Aquarius and Pisces are located in both the Radix and the Nodes chart).

We know that the Age Point reaches the cusp of the 7th house at age 36; the cusp of the 7th in the Node Chart is at the same degree as the Ascendant (14deg16mins) - but in the sign of Pisces ... and (from the additional tables) that the cusp of the 7th in the Radix is 19Aquarius31. ... So, at Age 36, the two Age Points are 24degs45mins apart - and coming together at a rate of 5degs-a-year (in the Node chart) and 4deg35mins-a-year (in Ali's Radix)* .... which is 9degs35mins-a-year when combined.

Hence ... it takes a further two years (to age 38) for the two Age Points to arrive at where they are 5deg35 apart (24deg45 minus 19deg10). ... And that is on Ali's birthday, on 17th January 1980.

We then divide that 9deg35 speed by 12, to get the monthly speed at which the two points were closing (48mins). So, it takes a further 7 months for the two Age Points to arrive at their crossover degree - which is 17th August 1980 (but "July 1980" is near enough for practical purposes).

[ *The additional tables for the Radix chart show the degree locations of the 7th and 8th house cusps, enabling us to calculate the degree speed at which the Age Point passes through the 7th house.]

This seems complicated when written down, but that is because it is unfamiliar. ... In practice, the year of crossover is ascertained by "eyeballing the two charts" and the calculation of the combined monthly speed-of-closing is not difficult.

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posted September 25, 2020 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Rhythm of Life is a Powerful Beat: Using the Huber Lifeclock by Faye Cossar
Age Point in a Chart by AstrologicalPredictions.ca

The Huber Method of Astrological Psychology

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Originally posted by: AstrologicalPredictions
On researching this point, I’ve also found a correlation between the age point opposing the Natal Sun, and some event(s) occurring that seem to affect the individual psychologically for the rest of the lifetime. The events that occur at this time, seemed to have a profound effect on many other levels of the individual’s life. Looking at the Natal Charts, each individual experienced events that were described by the depositor of the age point, and any aspects to it, the house the depositor was located in, and the house that the Sun rules.


Thanks for introducing this style of astrology 👍🏽 Much to look forward to, especially in effective forecasting.

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posted September 25, 2020 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by vansio :-

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The Rhythm of Life is a Powerful Beat: Using the Huber Lifeclock by Faye Cossar

Age Point in a Chart by AstrologicalPredictions.ca

vansio age point history


I'm currently thinking that the Huber Lifeclock and Age Point progressions might be better covered on a separate thread. ... Thus, separating the Huber approach to predictions from the Huber approach to analysing/interpreting/synthesising "the 3 natal charts".

Does that seem sensible to you, vansio? ... And. if so, would you open the predictions thread now (whilst this one is still being baked) or later?

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I'm very interested in this style of astrology although it's hard for me to follow. All of the abbreviations lose me and I need a more direct guidance to grasp what I'm even looking at and how to read it. If it gets too the point that it's too complicated to follow, I lose interest fast...my downfall.

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I'm very interested in this style of astrology although it's hard for me to follow. All of the abbreviations lose me and I need a more direct guidance to grasp what I'm even looking at and how to read it. If it gets too the point that it's too complicated to follow, I lose interest fast...my downfall.

I am trying to avoid the use of abbreviations and jargon, D2a - but the apparent complexity is probably due unfamiliarity, as http://www.astroamerica.com/huber.html consider Bruno Huber to be a Jesuit-trained simpleton ... http://www.astroamerica.com/huber.html

For example, the first step in using the approach is to engage the right-brain by reflecting/meditating upon the (unique to you) "picture" created by the aspect lines ... because the Hubers believed left-brain-only astrologers tend not to see "the whole picture".

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Originally posted by Graham:
This "huber chart facility" seems to be accessed only rarely (if at all) by members of this forum, and I wonder if that might be because very little information exists about their (intended) purpose and how to actually use them (as additions to our preferred/everyday astrology system, rather than as a separate stand-alone astrology system).

So ... as an attempt to clarify what is currently "out there somewhere" ... I'm hoping it might be of some value for me to outline (on this thread) my own understanding of the the purpose of these huber astrological psychology "tools", and how to use them to glean information which may not otherwise be revealed by our usual analysis, interpretation and synthesis of a natal chart + its derivatives.


This is mine:

Koch moves my Jupiter into the 6th, and Moon/Venus/SN definitely into the 8th. Mars into the 5th.

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Originally posted by Graham:
I am trying to avoid the use of abbreviations and jargon, D2a - but the apparent complexity is probably due unfamiliarity,
as http://www.astroamerica.com/huber.html consider Bruno Huber to be a Jesuit-trained simpleton ... http://www.astroamerica.com/huber.html

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Bruno Huber, 1930-1999,
was a Jesuit-trained simpleton who,
presumably under the spell of C.G. Jung
(both men lived in Zurich)
wanted to be a psychiatrist
and then wanted to use astrology with his work.

Problem was, Huber wasn't that bright and by his own account, found the study of astrology beyond him.


~WHY is she(he) insulting the Hubers?
Seems to have no qualms about USING their brilliant {'simpleton', not-bright} system -- then writes insults at the authors, while doing so.
How disrespectful!!!!

And, "Hating-the-Jesuits" is a prejudice/trend among persons of a certain political party-- (especially in the churches).

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So glad to see you introduce and teach us the Huber System, Graham. Thank you!

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- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Huber,_Louise
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Huber,_Bruno

- http://www.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Astrological-Psychological_Institute

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posted September 26, 2020 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by teasel :-

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This is mine

No. ... The natal chart consists of the wheel image AND the additional tables ... with the following two tables being especially important :-

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posted September 26, 2020 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just flagging up here that I have now completed my reply 1 comments on using the natal chart.

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Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by teasel :-

No. ... The natal chart consists of the wheel image [b]AND the additional tables ... with the following two tables being especially important :-

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Thanks. I used astro.com, so I only had the chart.

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Originally posted by teasel:
Thanks. I used astro.com, so I only had the chart.

The additional tables are provided by Astro.com, teasel.

The link to them is at the top left corner of the page which contains the chart image.

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Originally posted by Graham:
The additional tables are provided by Astro.com, teasel.

The link to them is at the top left corner of the page which contains the chart image.


Thanks.

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thanks for the info!
Since the house system somehow changes some of planets location in my chart, I wonder if Huber interpret the 12 house significations just liker modern astrologers?
Also, it seems amazon is selling his book (aspect) for 1000$, I wonder where else can I buy his book...

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A couple of findings in our charts and additional tables (i still can't figure out how to get the other two charts, only natal chart)
1. The AP repeat the exact same degree for opposite houses (maybe it is the same for everybody)
2. Only significant info is Jupiter at 9th house is in low energy point - meaning nobody sees that I can achieve high education/foreign travels?

Ahh very interesting - when Natal sun opposite my love's AP point in 5th house, a big big change happened to him - he moved to another country permanently that year.

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Originally posted by stone1:
thanks for the info!
Since the house system somehow changes some of planets location in my chart, I wonder if Huber interpret the 12 house significations just liker modern astrologers?
Also, it seems amazon is selling his book (aspect) for 1000$, I wonder where else can I buy his book...

For books ... try http://astrologicalpsychology.org/resources/apa-bookshop/

House activities in the Huber system are the same as those used in other systems of modern/psychological astrology. ... But only Koch houses are used to draw the natal chart - because the Huber research showed these to be more accurate when progressing the Age Point* through them.

[ * The Age point always takes 6 years to progress (evenly) through each of the 12 houses, so the size of a house determines the speed at which it moves - and thus the length of time it is in aspect to a natal planet (or the North Node).]

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Originally posted by stone1 :-

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A couple of findings in our charts and additional tables (i still can't figure out how to get the other two charts, only natal chart)

In the astro-com drop-down menu for chart drawing style there are options for Huber Style, Huber House Chart and Huber Nodes Chart.

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1. The AP repeat the exact same degree for opposite houses (maybe it is the same for everybody)

Same for everybody. ... The Age Point moves through each house at the rate of 6 years per house - so exactly opposes each house cusp every 36 years.


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2. Only significant info is Jupiter at 9th house is in low energy point - meaning nobody sees that I can achieve high education/foreign travels?

The effect is subjective ... So you will feel that nobody sees your Jupiter qualities. ... Objectively though, that may or may not be the case.

For example, I have Scorpio Mercury at the low-energy-point of my 2nd house (which has Libra on the cusp). ... And, in groups, my comments often go unheard (because I speak quietly). ... So, if making a comment which I value (2nd house), I used to compensate by speaking more forcibly/loudly than usual - and the result was that the group refused to listen because I was shouting/"being unreasonable"/behaving inappropriately.

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Ahh very interesting - when Natal sun opposite my love's AP point in 5th house, a big big change happened to him - he moved to another country permanently that year.

That is indeed a good example of how Age Point progressions can have both a subjective and objective impact upon the natal chart owner.

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are you basically saying because the AP, therefore the huber house system? I noticed my 4th/10th house is unusually big (almost 46 degrees)under this system.
I also noticed I met my love (fundamental change of me) when AP conjunct my sun. I was only looking for opposition yesterday didn't even notice the conjunction! lol. I wonder if other planet conj/oppo will have some effect too.
Thanks for the info and the book link (I found the book on that website but still couldn't figure out a way of buying it as there is no links to cart or check out)
Also, It seems when AP in 10th house, a person will be around age of 54-60, to me this is quite interesting, and also creativity/romance/children of 5th house as of age 24-30, I guess that fits most people's routine. And at the age of 36, AP conjunct Dsc, I guess that's when marriage/relationship starts to have problem.
Other thought: this system seems to have a similar method as distribution of the bounds as well as zodiacal releasing/annual prefections.

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Originally posted by stone1 :-

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are you basically saying because the AP, therefore the huber house system?

Yes. ... The Hubers tested the whole approach using Campanus, Placidus and Koch houses and found the latter produced more accurate results, particularly with their Lifeclock/Age Point Progression theory. ... So, "Koch houses R Huber houses".

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I noticed my 4th/10th house is unusually big (almost 46 degrees)under this system.

Thus ... the Age Point progressed through it at a faster "degrees-per-day" rate than for smaller houses ... and spends less time in any aspects made from there than in those made from smaller houses.

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I also noticed I met my love (fundamental change of me) when AP conjunct my sun. I was only looking for opposition yesterday didn't even notice the conjunction! lol. I wonder if other planet conj/oppo will have some effect too.

Conjunctions and oppositions are indeed considered (in Huber) to be the aspects that indicate major changes.

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Thanks for the info and the book link (I found the book on that website but still couldn't figure out a way of buying it as there is no links to cart or check out)

That website states :-

" To order, email XXXXXXX with details of the titles you want. ..............."

If in the USA though, it may be cheaper/convenient to order through http://www.astroamerica.com/author.html]http://www.astroamerica.com/author.html

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Also, It seems when AP in 10th house, a person will be around age of 54-60, to me this is quite interesting, and also creativity/romance/children of 5th house as of age 24-30, I guess that fits most people's routine. And at the age of 36, AP conjunct Dsc, I guess that's when marriage/relationship starts to have problem.

Yes. ... The Huber LifeClock book details "what to expect" in each of the years from birth to age 72. ... For example (at age 55), Age Point separating from MC; progressed Moon reaches its own place in the radix for the second time, transit Uranus trine natal Uranus; transit Neptune trine natal Neptune - (age 54 to 66) success, recognition and peak of activity."

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[b]Other thought: this system seems to have a similar method as distribution of the bounds as well as zodiacal releasing/annual predictions.


Yes. ... The aim of the Hubers was to produce a system that separated the already-available astrological wheat from the chaff, and then to simplify it (so that it could be used by all those seeking to acquire a better understanding of themselves).

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Thanks so much Graham!
I found it work really well when a few tools say the similar thing (just like that he also use progressed moon, and transit to justify his own theory)
How are the house chart and nodes chart interpreted? I pulled up these two charts and found the aspects (house chart) are quite differently labeled and emphasized. And the nodes chart asc/1h are completely different from regular placements

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Originally posted by stone1:
Thanks so much Graham!
I found it work really well when a few tools say the similar thing (just like that he also use progressed moon, and transit to justify his own theory)
How are the house chart and nodes chart interpreted? I pulled up these two charts and found the aspects (house chart) are quite differently labeled and emphasized. And the nodes chart asc/1h are completely different from regular placements

I am using my second post on this thread to explain how to use the three Huber charts - natal, houses, nodes. ... Please let me know if my comments there on the house chart need expanding/clarifying - (and please do the same for my comments on the Moon Node chart, which I'm hoping to post later today).

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this is mind blowing. thanks so much Graham.
It takes big effort to interpret, the more I study astrology, the more I feel the basic is so critical - how to interpret one single chart.

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When the progressed Age Point of the natal chart and moon node chart cross/meet, something significant will happen - and have some kind of repercussion 36 years later (when they cross/meet again).

With Ali, this happened in July 1980 and 2016. ... In July 1980, he was preparing for the "one fight too many" (against Larry Holmes) despite his medical advisors and Angelo Dundee refusing to support him in doing so. After the fight, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease ... and eventually died from that on 3rd June 2016.

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To all :-

The second post on this thread outlines how to use the three Huber charts - natal, houses, nodes. ... Please let me know if my comments there need expanding/clarifying further.

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