posted November 27, 2017 05:50 PM            

This is super true, I read somewhere (sadly I haven't a link just now) that Aquarius is not only detriment due to it's opposition the Natural Sun ruler, Leo. I also read it mentioned how Aqu can be smug, know it all or arrogant.(online and sometimes here @LL)   Let me shed some light, In defense of sun Aquarians-

 It is a rather insecure placement, the Aquarius Sun.

 I never quite understood why I was put off by Leo Suns, since learning astrology  it makes sense, they are proud, carry self esteem and generally never require questioning of their own attractiveness,  abilities or strengths. The Aquarius however fakes it sometimes (without  knowing so) until they make it. Winter is cold and generally  Dark, (in the western Hemisphere) the Sun (like a spotlight  on stage) rarely emphasizes the best qualities for Aquarius, as it's opposition to the Sun is evident. In fact to thaw out and animate to share the most beneficial abilities  with the outer world, is something that in many cases may require a special transit!

Depending on the Moon, Mercury  (Mentality)and AC (personality) the Aquarius energy might be more powerful in some, more than others.

In my chart I'm  a triple  Aqua with the Sagittarius rising. (My rising amplifies these Aqua qualities which repels most who judge easily by a sign and nothing more) I have struggled all my life with those around me misunderstanding me. They see my illusion, which is actually a reflection of  my 'self delusion' in the times I feel courageous or speak with any aire of authority (which even this very post might make others think of me right now)
There is an extreme insecurity in the Aqua Sun but most of us are unaware, whilst the others of us merely try to cover it. My DNA is in Leo, were it elsewhere I might have be completely hopeless in my esteem. It's a delicate teeter totter as is.

 Note to those who dislike Aqua Suns, Please try to look deeper, as we hide even from ourselves, our weaknesses and self delusions. We may frustrate ourselves just as much as we do others. Never wishing to!

 Any Aquarian Suns out here care to share how you think the rest of the wheel misunderstands you? Please share.

posted November 27, 2017 06:07 PM            

Right now I am dating another Aquarius sun. I can sort of see this pattern too but he's better at masking and hiding it. I feel a barrier between us. I want to know his deep thoughts but it's like he already has his wall up to start with. May I dare to say it... it feels like he isn't truly connected with himself of his wants/needs. If I am wrong and he really is... probably he doesn't want to share it.

posted November 27, 2017 08:43 PM            

My only 'complaint' I have about Aquarian Suns is that they don't deal with the emotional nature of human beings very well.

posted November 27, 2017 10:54 PM            

But I have always assumed that that was his Cap Asc/Vigo Mc mix. Saturn conjunct Jupiter in the 10th made him known by many as a buzz(Jupiter) shrinker(Saturn)

He has Aqua Sun in the 2nd house and has struggled with self-esteem issues his whole life. In fact Sun,Moon,Mercury and Mars are in the 2nd house. So the stellium highlights the 2nd house themes with him.

The 2nd house is said to be the house of self "valuation". And if the Sun is there(particularly if afflicted or in its "detrimental"position), it could highlight self esteem issues or lack of confidence.

So Aqua Sun, Libra Sun there could highlight this. But also an afflicted Sun that sits in the 2nd house, Venus/Sun jointly afflicted by a common planet or Leo on the 2nd house cusp with the Sun afflicted elsewhere.

I wonder though if Taurus Sun afflicted can also be self esteem issues. Many Taurus Sun people whom I have known with an opposition or square have had self confidence issues or esteem issues plague them in one form or another.

posted November 28, 2017 12:53 AM            

I think Gemini tends to get along with Aquarius very well because there a fixed Air sign which makes Gemini more stable.
In return Gemini is better receptive to Aquarius insecurities.

I would say both signs see similar problems but implement a different strategy/solution.

Aquarius does have a level of insecurity and emotion but it comes out different then Leo.

I find Aquarians, the females ones will detach themselves when that happens or just want some activity that will make them forget about it or get it off there mind.

With Leo it only comes out if it hurts there pride and they get firmer and give a lions roar when it happens.

Another difference between Leo and Aquarius is say I tell a Leo and an Aquarius to pick up garbage off the street.

The Aquarius will do it because its good for the environment but at the same time the Aquarius doesn't like being told what to do.

So to get back at me the Aquarius gets crafty and finds a more efficient way to do it. Then when I ask how did you do it so efficiently, do you mind sharing your secret? the Aquarius won't give me the full details.

Leo on the other hand will just firmly say don't tell me what to do and fuss about it.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
...What I have seen with Aqua is intellectual snobbery a lot.

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Michael Kaku fits the bill.

@MoonMystic
You have similar placements to my close Aquarius friend. She's always there when I need her and I do the same in return.

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posted November 28, 2017 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by yota13:
Mm yeah, the societal acceptance/rejection observation is spot on. My saturn merc moon sun are in aqua. Thinking of moving to alaska and building a space ship.

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Don't there is already an Alienbase in Alaska its under Mt Hayes.
http://www.historydisclosure.com/project-stargate-remote-viewers-discover-ufo-bases/

I have this type of talk with my Aquarius friend last time we were talking about genetically modified foods, although I tend to bring more logic into things.

posted November 28, 2017 05:46 AM            

I was like an Aries + Sag kids (as it is my Moon and Rising). I had the loudest laugh/scream when excited, hyper (no wonder I had 2 head injuries), and couldn't stand at home for a long time because I had so many friends (but to these days I still don't remember how I made friends everywhere from any culture/religion/type of people and I forget most of them. I feel terribly bad when sometimes some of my childhood friends came up and talked how we were bestfriends while I didn't even remember any single thing with them). But I didn't do bad things as my Mom was the strict one and I was raised religiously. So I don't know how I manage to have a lot of childhood friends, I can't even remember it.

I never felt insecure of who I was to be honest (as my Aries moon is so like an Aries as it is also conjunct the Jupiter?) until I was bullied since in junior highschool (I heard various reasons that they told me I was too close with my male friends and there were some female seniors liked them or the female senior didn't like my long curly hair or it was because I didn't came from that place). It crushed my confidence and self-esteem. I had a lot of anxiety in my youth. I felt judged everywhere I went. I even ate my foods in the dark bathroom school because if I went to the good one, someone would kick the door. I started to eat more foods and gained weight a lot because I felt bad about myself, I hated me like they hated me. I built my own world of self-hatred. That was the time I felt very insecure about who I was. I was questioning everything about me and I thought my parents were lying to me. I took a silent anger until I graduated school.

I started to change a lot when in college as a revenge of what I felt during highschool. I took my confidence back and, yeah, everything was great: having no problem with presentation/talking in front of class/bunch of people, not depending on other people as I took a lot of training, seminar, and extra classes, and finally graduated before the year I should graduated, but I had built my wall guard so high, until I was in my first real relationship when I got my third job and settled. I think life wants me to have another hard lessons.

Then I changed a lot again, that time I was more in touch with my water Venus. I learned to be more open/vulnerable, I learned to speak up, I learned to let my emotions showed, I learned to let my guards down, I learned to treat people with feelings, I learned to more in touch with humanity.

Everything was so great again: was part of various organization, backpacking for two years, having a lot of good friends again that I only came home to sleep as there were a lot of schedules out there, until I am in my now relationship. I think life wants me to give another hard lessons again. Now I feel a lot of insecurity of my worth because of constant feeling of comparison, blame, negativity of complaining, etc. Tough 2 years.

I have met some Aquarians including some become my good friends. We are all different. My childhood friend who is only 1 day apart from my birthday, is so different than me, so wild and doesn't care about rules. My previous boss has bad temper, emotional, and super chatty. My close friend is, like, having the old man thoughts every time although he is younger than me, critical, and suspicious. Another friend is the computer geek who is very sensitive, insecure, but has biggest ego. I have never met the same Aquarians, perhaps some common traits, yes, but once you get to know them more, no Aquarians are the same. I have met some most insecure and I have met some silliest and I have met some wisest.

So, yeah, I don't know, I also was raised by Leo sun Dad who since I was a kid he made us felt valued by complementing us in a brainy way, boost our confidence, and how he always told us that the most importing thing in the world was his kids and we were unique and it was okay.

I also dealt misunderstanding but it came from my Mom the most when I was a kid. She is the Cap/Aqua cusp sun with Saturn (I think also Jupiter wide?) conjunct her sun. She was so strict because she said that was what she learned from her Father and she would always worry this and that (mars in Cancer) and had high idealism. She was so hard/discipline/conservative to her kids in the past to be honest. But now I thank her as it made me very independent.

I can be my own worst enemy though.

posted November 28, 2017 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:

I want to know his deep thoughts but it's like he already has his wall up to start with. May I dare to say it... it feels like he isn't truly connected with himself of his wants/needs. If I am wrong and he really is... probably he doesn't want to share it.

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posted November 28, 2017 11:45 PM            

although, two of them (females) have a pisces venus
the other (male) a taurus moon
and the other (also male) either a libra moon or ac, but definitely something in libra

then I was also friends with two other aqua suns, one male and the other female, which I have no idea about their moon or ac, but they both had capricorn venus/mercury
they were more practical and down to earth aquas, also rather stressed and focused on achievement and meeting successful people, etc

but, something they all have in common, is that they can display a very self-centered character sometimes,
for instance once the friendship level is deeper, they keep asking these random questions out of the blue, such as, "will you be thinking of me when I'm very far away", or "will I still be your best friend if we go distances apart?"..things like that
...I have also watched them numerous times get themselves into rather embarrasing situations in the public just to get attention! (or so it appears to the rest of us who don't have an aqua sun/moon/ac) something I don't remember I have never seen leo placements, (famous for being self-centered) do

I think these are underdeveloped aqua characteristic though, once they mature, they can display their cool individualistic detachement which comes from them appreciating their own uniqueness and difference/genius

posted November 28, 2017 11:53 PM            

it was so nice and educating reading your story!

thanks for sharing

and I congratulate you on going through life with such an open eye

posted November 29, 2017 03:11 AM            

You're welcome and thank you. I don't know if it's called an open eye though, I just feel like there's an inner faith in me that in the war zone with my own demon, always. And at the end of the day I need to make a decision as I am the one who have responsibility with my own choice.

I couldn't even hate those people because I forget all of their faces and names? lol. Oh my, sometimes I feel funny of myself that one day my Taurus sister hysterically told me, "how could you forget all of them?! I even still stalk them to know what Karma they will get! I'll never forget their names and faces!" and I was like trying to recall my memories so hard and said, "no, I don't even remember any of them but I do remember the feeling and the some bad situations. But their names or faces? Hmmm, I don't remember anything." My sister was like, "wtf?? if I were you, I will never ever forget all of them."

posted November 30, 2017 04:33 PM            

But well she also has a Venus Capricorn. And Mars in Leo. Moon Gemini conj my moon.

Ok BUT, she is suuper tolerant with people, and would never get angry with peple. Her energy is not passive agressive like a Cancer, or libra or pisces I mind you. Se just don't care to get mad! Very level headed! BUT she has no tolerance with her youngest son who is 6 years old and a true pain in the ass, he really is. Hi is the only one who makes her loose her cool and explode in anger. But he is as said, the only one. I read Uranus people often are tolerant to others, but not to their own family.