posted February 15, 2020 07:46 AM            

1: run hot/cold with emotions
2: try to “change” the partner to fit “ideals”
3: be “obsessed” with one person at a time and thus “forget” about other people In their life and then go back to an “old” person and so on so that they ALWAYS have the attention of atleast one person
4: sense when partner withdraws or make plans without them and then create drama and/or change THEIR plans so that you 2 have to be together anyway
5:accuse partner of things that in all actuality they, themselves are doing/have done

And, if some of above ring true, I assume they would do it out of:

posted February 15, 2020 08:34 AM            

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posted February 15, 2020 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would say 3 and 4 describe it well. Who is it? Your hubby?

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M-hmm..

It's not just him alone though It's the people he attract or latch on to as well! It's as if men and women alike, develop some type of sickness around him. They cling on to him for dear life and he loves it. Says " I think it's fun". But the end result is always the same. Drama and anger and then they vanish never to be seen. I can't really put the entire scenario into words but since I have a strong Pluto myself, I can FEEL it!

I can feel the pure, raw NEED. It rubs me the wrong way.

I should add that all his previous relationships, the women have had either Scorpio Venus or Venus/Pluto so it must be something he craves? Drama?

posted February 15, 2020 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Would a Venus/Pluto (the square or opp.), if not developed:

1: run hot/cold with emotions
2: try to “change” the partner to fit “ideals”
3: be “obsessed” with one person at a time and thus “forget” about other people In their life and then go back to an “old” person and so on so that they ALWAYS have the attention of atleast one person
4: sense when partner withdraws or make plans without them and then create drama and/or change THEIR plans so that you 2 have to be together anyway
5:accuse partner of things that in all actuality they, themselves are doing/have done

And, if some of above ring true, I assume they would do it out of:

Fear?
Past hurt?
Guilt?
Shame?

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I have Venus in Scorpio with Pluto in Scorpio also in the 7th. I can obsess over someone I like for a LONG time.

But I don't have old lovers who are there to give me the attention I am not getting from my "conquest".

I know a Scorpio Moon who does the 4 and 5 actions. Scorpio Moons are so easy to recognize though. You nailed the last two as Scorpio behavior for sure.

Fernando Prudhomme-wonderful YOUTUBE astrologer put it aptly when he said that Scorpio has 3 fears.

Fear of abandonment
Fear of loss
Fear of betrayal.

If you know the above trinity well, any behaviour by them that seems seems prima facie "illogical", starts to make sense.

posted February 15, 2020 02:46 PM            

So some of what you've outlined as behaviors is quite possible and common, at least to a point, among those with natal aspect.

posted February 15, 2020 03:10 PM            

Charlton Heston killed JFK and (I think) Marilyn Monroe over jealousy. Has Venus in Libra square Pluto in Cancer.He became the leader of the NRA to mock his use of firearms in a free country.And he supposedly acquired top security clearance which I find completely laughable given he was a unintelligent actor with no reason to get involved in politics besides trying to impress Marilyn Monroe or his own ego.

posted February 15, 2020 05:02 PM            

1) I'm vengeful if betrayed
2) I attract obsessive men

posted February 15, 2020 08:38 PM            

1. Kind of, it depends on someone's actions and behavior.

2. Nope, I might give it a try if it's something important that helps him especially with his health, but I don't expect much and I'm not going to force him.

3. Not at all. The obsessed part is correct, the feelings are too intense, but I never "forget" other important people, otherwise they are not important. Attention seeking the way you describe it sounds Martian and Leo like.

4. Yes about sensing any change, no to drama, just withdrawing. If someone loses interest you can't do much about it, I don't want anything that is forced, if someone doesn't want to spend time with me no matter how much it hurts me, it's their time and their choice how and with whom they will spend it. Now if you are talking about them simply going out with friends or doing other activities I'm absolutely fine with that.

5. That's a BIG no. It can drive me crazy when someone does this, I have never been accused of that, quite the opposite. Also none of my friends is like that at all, otherwise they wouldn't be friends of mine.

Again this is too Martian, every Moon-Mars (hard aspects) and heavy Aries with (Aries/Aqua/Libra/Gemini Moon) I've ever met till this day has this trait except from one uncle who has lots of Aries natal planets including his Moon but with Saturn conjuncting most of them.

Answers to you very last question are different, actually none of us (me and my friends) do majority of the things you mentioned.

My problem is the intensity and lasting time of my feelings but it seems it's only my problem since my friends are not like it.
However once I get over someone (it takes a few years) it's like he never existed, I'm completely indifferent. I won't analyze more because it has to do with other parts of the chart, same goes for my 2 friends.

posted February 15, 2020 08:49 PM            

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posted March 04, 2020 12:19 PM            

I attract strange people, they seem desperate in a way. Somehow my relationships with them become some sort of catalyst for a big change that they probably wanted anyway. So when that happens, they leave. I grieve. Eventually [years sometimes] they come back. Rinse, repeat.