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gen75
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posted April 12, 2013 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been seeing a Pisces Man for about 8 months and the sex is amazing, passionate, emotional, connected and just gets better everytime. We were talking last night and he said what he wanted to do next time we were together, which is what I think all women fanatsize about. He said he wanted to take his time, undress me and kiss me from head to toe and back up again. I read that Pisces men are very good in bed and I do agree... My question is do they put this much passion into if no feeling is involved? I believe he has feelings for me based on not only the sex but he has been open and shared with me (almost crying), we talk/text all the time and he has been jealous even over people that we have both known for a long time... if he sees me talking to a man, he has to have me right now!!

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posted April 12, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every man can have passionate sex with no feelings. It's called being a guy. But if he actually hangs out with you outside of the bedroom, and you don't have to beg him to do it...he might have real feelings for you, yeah.

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posted April 12, 2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Every man can have passionate sex with no feelings. It's called being a guy. But if he actually hangs out with you outside of the bedroom, and you don't have to beg him to do it...he might have real feelings for you, yeah.

That is what is hard with Pisces men, they aren't your typical guy, he is more emotional like a woman and at times I feel like I am the man in this relationship ( I am a Cancer)..Yes we do hang out outside of the bedroom and talk all the time.

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posted April 12, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is what is hard with Pisces men, they aren't your typical guy, he is more emotional like a woman and at times I feel like I am the man in this relationship ( I am a Cancer)..Yes we do hang out outside of the bedroom and talk all the time.

A man is a man is a man, even if he's a sensitive one. If you guys do actually spend time together in a non-sexual context then really that should answer your question because guys won't stick around to talk if they just see you as a piece of a**.

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posted April 12, 2013 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A man is a man is a man, even if he's a sensitive one. If you guys do actually spend time together in a non-sexual context then really that should answer your question because guys won't stick around to talk if they just see you as a piece of a**.

He talks a lot!! I have dated guys in the past that talk as much as he does and was annoyed by the third date, he doesn't annoy me. I enjoy listening to him. I am not saying I don't talk and he doesnt listen to me because he does, but he is the talker out of the two of us.

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posted April 12, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gen75:
He talks a lot!! I have dated guys in the past that talk as much as he does and was annoyed by the third date, he doesn't annoy me. I enjoy listening to him. I am not saying I don't talk and he doesnt listen to me because he does, but he is the talker out of the two of us.

Then you guys are okay, and it's real. I wouldn't worry about it.

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posted April 12, 2013 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree any man can have passionate sex even sensitive men...

Men in general are able to separate sex from love way more than any woman....
Any type of man can use a woman for sex.....


Now on another level my personal experience with Pisces is, more about how much he can talk and open up to someone.....
That (my opinion) means a more emotional connection than sex...
Also if he talks about his own life experiences..

I don't think Pisces open up to just any one (men in general also)
If they do, they really have trust and faith with u..

My fishy after 4 yrs opened up to me Abt his fathers, death and the effect in him...
It was really hard for him to do that... At a point, he said I'm not ready to get deeper into this. YET..

So it's a slow slow process.. Of course I said I understood and changed the subject to something lighter.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree. I have four guy friends who are in their 20s and are virgins because they want to wait until marriage. They also dont watch porn, dont objectify women, and feel ashamed and angry about how other men are such pigs. So i think it's society, not biology, which shapes these men who are this way into the way that they are. Not ony do i think society lets men get away with objectifying women, but with being irresponsible in general and in finding unhealthy outlets for their emotions (alcohol/weed/anger/fighting). And I think it is a lot of what is wrong with society.

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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Every man can have passionate sex with no feelings.

I guess I'm a woman then.

Maybe I have like ovaries inside of me.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let my clarify my self, my post is men in general, of course there are exceptions to any rule...

But of course different cultures would be different. I only only speak of the culture I grew up in..

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posted April 12, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I guess I'm a woman then.

Maybe I have like ovaries inside of me.



Are u saying you we're in love ( truly) with every person u slept with the first time?


Yes women are also capable of having sex with out feelings, I think women will get feelings faster than men.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I disagree. I have four guy friends who are in their 20s and are virgins because they want to wait until marriage. They also dont watch porn, dont objectify women, and feel ashamed and angry about how other men are such pigs. So i think it's society, not biology, which shapes these men who are this way into the way that they are. Not ony do i think society lets men get away with objectifying women, but with being irresponsible in general and in finding unhealthy outlets for their emotions (alcohol/weed/anger/fighting). And I think it is a lot of what is wrong with society.


I would like to meet these men LOL!!! I need a good guy in my life like this!

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posted April 12, 2013 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just makes me sad when i see someone saying all men are like this or most men are, bc that's the kind of attitude that makes guys follow these expectations. In the end it means more unhappiness for them. Not wanting to get married...erectile dysfunction bc of watching porn, or ruining otherwise perfectly fine relationships by making them physical too early. I think as women we have to not allow irresponsible behavior in guys, and choose to be with someone else instead. Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.

I've also met lots of guys who told me they used to be promiscuous and all they found was emptiness. If society expects this behavior of men, i think all it's doing is hurting them.

Look at the role models for guys in our society...rappers. The worst most irresponsible role model you could have.

There are movies that talk about this issue by the way. I can only remember two right now, but Im sure there are more. Weird Science is one. The two guys want to make their own perfect woman and have fun bragging about how theyd do all these things to her. But when they do create that perfect woman they cant do anything sexual with her even though she is super enthusiastic lol, because they cant get emotionally close to her, since they have no feelings for her. It's only when they find two girlfriends and feel like they're in love, that they finally do physical things with them and feel happiness.

Or what about Crazy Stupid Love with Steve Carrell. Carrell is a great husband---responsible, was a virgin wen he married his wife, a great provider for his family, and always attentive to his wife---but he wasnt very romantic or all that expressive or passionate about showing her wife how much he loved her. Ryan Gosling is the ladies man. And he finds a sad divorced Carrell drinking at a bar and makes him the proposition to get him his wife back by changing him into a smooth ladies man like him. Gosling sleeps with a different woman every night and he starts out by giving Carrell pick up tricks and making him really well dressed so that he can do the same. Carrell is reluctant but complies. After a one night stand with two women I think? He backs out and goes back to his wife and just apologizes to her in a hugely dramatic romantic way, expressing his feelings to the audience at his son's graduation. Gosling unknowingly falls in love with Carrell's daughter when during what is about to be a one night stand at his apartment never happens because they stay up all night talking to each other instead. Gosling says he was wrong the entire time, and that he was lonely and unhappy when he was promiscuous, and that falling in love is the right way. Carrell doesnt want him to be with his daughter and calls him a low-life and a womanizer and inists his daughter deserves better. Gosling agrees that he was trying to make Carrell like him when in reality it was he who needed to be like Carrell. I think this movie is really important because most guys think they have to be the smooth ladies man to get women to like them. I think in large part it is the women's fault for liking the ladies man and putting up with his macho behavior.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have lots of pisces in my chart.
let me tell you. he wouldnt put in passion if he had no emotion.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I think as women we have to not allow irresponsible behavior in guys, and choose to be with someone else instead. Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.

I've also met lots of guys who told me they used to be promiscuous and all they found was emptiness. If society expects this behavior of men, i think all it's doing is hurting them.


Preach, sista!

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posted April 12, 2013 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It just makes me sad when i see someone saying all men are like this or most men are, bc that's the kind of attitude that makes guys follow these expectations. In the end it means more unhappiness for them. Not wanting to get married...erectile dysfunction bc of watching porn, or ruining otherwise perfectly fine relationships by making them physical too early. I think as women we have to not allow irresponsible behavior in guys, and choose to be with someone else instead. Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.

I've also met lots of guys who told me they used to be promiscuous and all they found was emptiness. If society expects this behavior of men, i think all it's doing is hurting them.

Look at the role models for guys in our society...rappers. The worst most irresponsible role model you could have.

There are movies that talk about this issue by the way. I can only remember two right now, but Im sure there are more. Weird Science is one. The two guys want to make their own perfect woman and have fun bragging about how theyd do all these things to her. But when they do create that perfect woman they cant do anything sexual with her even though she is super enthusiastic lol, because they cant get emotionally close to her, since they have no feelings for her. It's only when they find two girlfriends and feel like they're in love, that they finally do physical things with them and feel happiness.

Or what about Crazy Stupid Love with Steve Carrell. Carrell is a great husband---responsible, was a virgin wen he married his wife, a great provider for his family, and always attentive to his wife---but he wasnt very romantic or all that expressive or passionate about showing her wife how much he loved her. Ryan Gosling is the ladies man. And he finds a sad divorced Carrell drinking at a bar and makes him the proposition to get him his wife back by changing him into a smooth ladies man like him. Gosling sleeps with a different woman every night and he starts out by giving Carrell pick up tricks and making him really well dressed so that he can do the same. Carrell is reluctant but complies. After a one night stand with two women I think? He backs out and goes back to his wife and just apologizes to her in a hugely dramatic romantic way, expressing his feelings to the audience at his son's graduation. Gosling unknowingly falls in love with Carrell's daughter when during what is about to be a one night stand at his apartment never happens because they stay up all night talking to each other instead. Gosling says he was wrong the entire time, and that he was lonely and unhappy when he was promiscuous, and that falling in love is the right way. Carrell doesnt want him to be with his daughter and calls him a low-life and a womanizer and inists his daughter deserves better. Gosling agrees that he was trying to make Carrell like him when in reality it was he who needed to be like Carrell. I think this movie is really important because most guys think they have to be the smooth ladies man to get women to like them. I think in large part it is the women's fault for liking the ladies man and putting up with his macho behavior.



Are you really trying to dump responsibility for what grown men choose to do with their own bodies on women who have absolutely no control whatsoever over any of that?

Can I ask you something?

How many men have you actually known? Because, trust me. The average guy won't do anything other than what they damned well please. Men aren't these infantile little sheep that can be steered around and need women to teach them what to do and how to be, and believe me, plenty of women have stated loud and clear that they aren't a fan of promiscuity or want their man to be faithful and those dudes turn right around and bed woman after woman.

You want to believe that most of them don't want to drop their trousers and screw a bunch of chicks - trust me, guys are naturally in a state of perpetual horniness. Anything they do it's because they want to, not because they're trying to live up to something. I'm talking about grown men here, not teenaged little boys who will lie about who they've slept with to impress their friends. Grown men don't care about impressing anybody they just wanna get their rocks off. Men do what they want to do, they're stubborn by nature and no matter what women tell them, the man is going to do exactly as he likes trust me lmao.

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posted April 12, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
It just makes me sad when i see someone saying all men are like this or most men are, bc that's the kind of attitude that makes guys follow these expectations. In the end it means more unhappiness for them. Not wanting to get married...erectile dysfunction bc of watching porn, or ruining otherwise perfectly fine relationships by making them physical too early. I think as women we have to not allow irresponsible behavior in guys, and choose to be with someone else instead. Our acceptance of their behavior allows it to continue.

I've also met lots of guys who told me they used to be promiscuous and all they found was emptiness. If society expects this behavior of men, i think all it's doing is hurting them.

Look at the role models for guys in our society...rappers. The worst most irresponsible role model you could have.

There are movies that talk about this issue by the way. I can only remember two right now, but Im sure there are more. Weird Science is one. The two guys want to make their own perfect woman and have fun bragging about how theyd do all these things to her. But when they do create that perfect woman they cant do anything sexual with her even though she is super enthusiastic lol, because they cant get emotionally close to her, since they have no feelings for her. It's only when they find two girlfriends and feel like they're in love, that they finally do physical things with them and feel happiness.

Or what about Crazy Stupid Love with Steve Carrell. Carrell is a great husband---responsible, was a virgin wen he married his wife, a great provider for his family, and always attentive to his wife---but he wasnt very romantic or all that expressive or passionate about showing her wife how much he loved her. Ryan Gosling is the ladies man. And he finds a sad divorced Carrell drinking at a bar and makes him the proposition to get him his wife back by changing him into a smooth ladies man like him. Gosling sleeps with a different woman every night and he starts out by giving Carrell pick up tricks and making him really well dressed so that he can do the same. Carrell is reluctant but complies. After a one night stand with two women I think? He backs out and goes back to his wife and just apologizes to her in a hugely dramatic romantic way, expressing his feelings to the audience at his son's graduation. Gosling unknowingly falls in love with Carrell's daughter when during what is about to be a one night stand at his apartment never happens because they stay up all night talking to each other instead. Gosling says he was wrong the entire time, and that he was lonely and unhappy when he was promiscuous, and that falling in love is the right way. Carrell doesnt want him to be with his daughter and calls him a low-life and a womanizer and inists his daughter deserves better. Gosling agrees that he was trying to make Carrell like him when in reality it was he who needed to be like Carrell. I think this movie is really important because most guys think they have to be the smooth ladies man to get women to like them. I think in large part it is the women's fault for liking the ladies man and putting up with his macho behavior.



I totally agree, society is a big part of the way sex is looked at, especially how things have changed towards sex say since the 50's...
Back then, it was shame full to have premarital sex.
People did it, but never discussed it... Until a pregancy occurred than hidden births and or adoptions or illegal abortions happen..

The kids born in the 50's revolted by saying hey!!! We're not ashamed, we not going to be this, we want free love..
So the 70's came, and sex became open, shared and not shame full, women were now expressing desire for sex..
The world changed..

With each generation sex becomes more and more lax.. Sex is every where, for kids growing up.

On I love Lucy... It was not allowed to show a man in women in the same bed, hence the two separate beds on the show... Now on Disney channel young girls are walking around in bikinis...

It's on tv commercials ( sex sells) its every where..

It's not shame full anymore, it's just there...

I'm not saying this is the right way, the 50 was way too restricted, but now it's just gone over board..

Each generation seems to get more and more comfortable with sex as an act verses sex as making love to some one u truly care about...

What saddens me, is seeing 14 yrs old girls pregnant...
Society has created sex as "something every one does" instead of creating the making love, is what it's truly about...


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posted April 12, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I guess I'm a woman then.

Maybe I have like ovaries inside of me.


Honestly? The first few times I read your posts I thought you were female.

You might wanna check the next time you're in the bathroom to see whether you're sitting down or standing up to take your leak.

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posted April 12, 2013 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you really trying to dump responsibility for what grown men choose to do with their own bodies on women who have absolutely no control whatsoever over any of that?

Can I ask you something?

How many men have you actually known? Because, trust me. The average guy won't do anything other than what they damned well please. Men aren't these infantile little sheep that can be steered around and need women to teach them what to do and how to be, and believe me, plenty of women have stated loud and clear that they aren't a fan of promiscuity or want their man to be faithful and those dudes turn right around and bed woman after woman.

You want to believe that most of them don't want to drop their trousers and screw a bunch of chicks - trust me, guys are naturally in a state of perpetual horniness. Anything they do it's because they want to, not because they're trying to live up to something. I'm talking about grown men here, not teenaged little boys who will lie about who they've slept with to impress their friends. Grown men don't care about impressing anybody they just wanna get their rocks off. Men do what they want to do, they're stubborn by nature and no matter what women tell them, the man is going to do exactly as he likes trust me lmao.


I think she was talking about women not tolerating men that act in that way, she didn't say that women are responsible for the way men act she was saying that society needs to stop letting that kind of behavior slide.

What you described isn't a man, its a teenage horndog trapped inside a man's body lol.

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posted April 12, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also... Lol

On the dating websites, there are intentions options and one of the choices is sex/ no commitment.

I've joined the dating websites, I have found them more annoying than anything...

Married men looking for discreet relationships, and younger "men" 18 - 30 sending me messages asking for sex...

It's terrible how some guy thinks that hey I'm gonna send a stranger an email for sex..
Like if just cuz u sent me an email, I'm gonna agree... What ever... Kids looking for so called older women..
It got so bad I had to put a block on my messages restricting anyone under 35 from emailing me..

Married men also, send message to a stranger for just sex, to a stranger... It baffles me that men think sending these messages are going to get a yes... Idk. I don't get it,

Ever look at Craig's list personals, geez that's nothing but a request for pair and free sex.. Plus pictures added!!!

Plus when u do meet someone, the first thing they say is send me a pic if ur privates...
Wtf... I'll never get that one...

How could someone just send or even ask for these pic to some one they just met.

So yes I still say, men in general can have sex with out feelings..
Women also, but I think if it continues the women will develop feelings over time.

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posted April 12, 2013 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think she was talking about women not tolerating men that act in that way, she didn't say that women are responsible for the way men act she was saying that society needs to stop letting that kind of behavior slide.

What you described isn't a man, its a teenage horndog trapped inside a man's body lol.



Maybe I misunderstood but honestly this is what I got from it : "If men sleep around it's women's faults because they don't put their foot down and tell men they shouldn't do that."

And I'm like, "Have you interacted with any guys? A woman can scream til she's blue in the face about anything, but if that man wants to do the opposite of what she tells him, he absolutely will."

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Pisces is just like any other guy if not worse.

Also the opening up thing could be selective honesty, which they are famous for. THey are very good at playing sensitive but can be real cold people. Keep your eyes and ears open first and foremost. Pisces are the best liars in the zodiac.

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posted April 12, 2013 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CatMote:
i have lots of pisces in my chart.
let me tell you. he wouldnt put in passion if he had no emotion.

Really I have slept with a few who were very passionate but had no feelings for me. I also myself am very passionate and also have had sex with people I cared nothing for on a romantic level. I have a pisces moon. Theres no real way to tell here what his feelings for her are.

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posted April 12, 2013 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snorkel:
Honestly? The first few times I read your posts I thought you were female.

You might wanna check the next time you're in the bathroom to see whether you're sitting down or standing up to take your leak.


LOL so did I....all this time.

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Originally posted by Lioness:

Are u saying you we're in love ( truly) with every person u slept with the first time?


Yes women are also capable of having sex with out feelings, I think women will get feelings faster than men.


I've never slept with anyone because I never have felt intense feelings of love. People are too impatient now a days, and they just want instant gratification. Waiting is taboo or something..

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