posted September 14, 2015 03:03 PM            

I have two...

Mercury - It makes for very original thinking, but I also find I can get stuck or locked into my mind - the thinking just won't stop. It's like a blessing and a curse.

Moon (most common for people to have) - It's a super roller coaster ride. I feel super sensitive and if I am afflicted emotionally, it affects every other aspect of my life. While its beautiful to have a sensitive heart, there is such a thing as "too much" of a good thing. Moon OOB is definitely one of them.

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TO CHECK FOR OUT OF BOUND PLANETS...
1. go to astro.com and bring up your natal chart
2. click the "additional tables PDF" link on the left
3. Look at the Declination column
4. Anything at 0 degrees or above 23 degrees 27 minutes either North or South of the equator.

EG. It reads like this on the pdf:
Planet | Longitude | house Speed | Latitude | Declination
Moon | 19° 7' 8" | 6 | 14°19'20" | 3°38'56" S | 25°41'36" S

It is not the degrees in your natal chart. It is the DECLINATION column on the addition chart table. (not the latitude or speed columns either)
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posted September 14, 2015 03:37 PM            

I'm gonna have to read up on this before I can comment further.

posted September 14, 2015 03:58 PM            

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posted September 14, 2015 04:40 PM            

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Thanks so much for this. I have the Sun at Gemini 28

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Hi Ami,

The sun can't have a declination beyond 23 degrees 27 minutes therefore cannot be out of bounds.

posted September 14, 2015 05:24 PM            

My Moon is unaspected and in 12th house...already super sensitive moon

My Mars is virtually unaspected only a 5 degree, seperating, out of sign trine to Uranus...in 9th house.

posted September 14, 2015 06:13 PM            

Sun is hovering up there at 23 South.. Lol

Are asteroids counted?

posted September 14, 2015 07:24 PM            

The Sun at the end of Gem or Sag, or at the beginning of Cancer or Cap is right on the ecliptic's far reach. Sun can never be out of bounds as its path draws the line of 'boundary.'

I agree with Alice Portman's assessment, "In my opinion planets that are out of bounds describe the ability to function outside of the box." That is all 'out of bounds' planets are. They are not indicators of extremism, or of dysfunction, or of persons who violate others' boundaries.

I was born when Moon was at 12 Capricorn/27S12. Far south declination indicates a private/personally directed Moon polarity, as the southern Moon positions indicate (negative polarity). If just barely over the ecliptic, it doesn't make much difference, but when farther, say 25-28* it can give a default position in which one colors truly outside the lines. In the southernmost positions the Moon triggers deeper personal intuitive guidance or more personal agendas. In the northernmost positions, the positive polarity of north is more energizing or out-putting, involved more emotionally in what is 'out there' in society.

My Moon in Cap at 27 south indicates the ability, even the spiritual directive, to go it alone if necessary to order my own habituations, moods, emotional pattern and soul priorities. I have done this. I have lived outside the belief box of my own family for most of my life. I also think and process in a highly independent fashion. -- But it is not a perpetual limiting condition.

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Mercury at 27 degrees..

And Jupiter at 28

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Those are longitude positions. The question of whether a planet is out of bounds is a question of its declination position.

The only planet 'out of bounds' in your chart is Uranus at 23S37, also marked as -23*37' (north is marked +).

Jupiter's maximum declination north or south is normally a bit over 23*, and only rarely passes over the ecliptic and only just by a bit.

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Originally posted by Septembergirl:
Can Nessus be an out of bounds planet?

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No, because it is not a planet.

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Originally posted by magpie:
My Venus is in my only planet out of bounds at 0*16'37". What would this signify?

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If you are referring to its declination position north or south of the celestial equator, that is not 'out of bounds.' If you are referring to its sign position, look at the sign. If Venus is not in Gemini, Cancer, Sag, or Cap, then it is almost certainly not out of bounds.

Asteroids past 23*27' are beside the point. Many of these stay way out there for very long periods of time, so there is no personal meaning to that, just as there is no personal meaning to a planet (like Neptune, Pluto) that stayed in a sign for many years. That gives a general meaning, which only becomes personal when aspects and dwads are taken into account.

posted September 15, 2015 12:01 AM            

They form a conjunction, with asteroid Lust between then, which is also out of bounds at 32°48'20" S

posted September 15, 2015 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
So are 0's out of bounds or not?

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Zero degrees of what?

0 north or south declination is right on the celestial equator, as far from 'out of bounds' as you can get.

0-degrees of a sign -- it depends. What sign? The answer is 'no' if its any sign but the northernmost (Gem, Cancer) or the southernmost (Sagittarius, Cap).

Most importantly -- look up the planets declination position. That is what we're talking about, declination, not longitude (signs/zodiac).

posted September 15, 2015 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
So are 0's out of bounds or not?

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Hi Gabby, while O degrees declination is not an OOB, it is called a crossover. It's when a planet is crossing over the equator. These too have special significance.

I added crossovers to the list because they, like OOB planets are quite special in charts. :-)

posted September 15, 2015 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello VestasLight! Welcome to LL

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Thanks lalalinda! Happy to finally start posting. I've lurked around on here for a LOOOONG time but thought I should finally start posting, lol.

posted September 15, 2015 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
In order to understand 'out of bounds' you need to first study declinations generally. Otherwise too much is made of such discoveries. They are too easily seen in black-and-white terms out of their proper context, and personal subjective experiences are mis-attributed too easily to them.

The Sun at the end of Gem or Sag, or at the beginning of Cancer or Cap is right on the ecliptic's far reach. Sun can never be out of bounds as its path draws the line of 'boundary.'

I agree with Alice Portman's assessment, [b]"In my opinion planets that are out of bounds describe the ability to function outside of the box." That is all 'out of bounds' planets are. They are not indicators of extremism, or of dysfunction, or of persons who violate others' boundaries.

I was born when Moon was at 12 Capricorn/27S12. Far south declination indicates a private/personally directed Moon polarity, as the southern Moon positions indicate (negative polarity). If just barely over the ecliptic, it doesn't make much difference, but when farther, say 25-28* it can give a default position in which one colors truly outside the lines. In the southernmost positions the Moon triggers deeper personal intuitive guidance or more personal agendas. In the northernmost positions, the positive polarity of north is more energizing or out-putting, involved more emotionally in what is 'out there' in society.

My Moon in Cap at 27 south indicates the ability, even the spiritual directive, to go it alone if necessary to order my own habituations, moods, emotional pattern and soul priorities. I have done this. I have lived outside the belief box of my own family for most of my life. I also think and process in a highly independent fashion. -- But it is not a perpetual limiting condition.

If you are referring to its declination position north or south of the celestial equator, that is not 'out of bounds.' If you are referring to its sign position, look at the sign. If Venus is not in Gemini, Cancer, Sag, or Cap, then it is almost certainly not out of bounds.

Asteroids past 23*27' are beside the point. Many of these stay way out there for very long periods of time, so there is no personal meaning to that, just as there is no personal meaning to a planet (like Neptune, Pluto) that stayed in a sign for many years. That gives a general meaning, which only becomes personal when aspects and dwads are taken into account.

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Thanks for the addition Kannon!

I do agree with Alice Portman's take too. I just feel that there is more to OOB's than just being able to function outside the box. But I certainly agree that it doesn't make for anything negative.

I agree asteroids don't count here, just planets.

And yes, 0 degrees declination is not an OOB,it is a crossover planet. But they are just as rare and important as OOB's. I added them here for fun. I really want to hear what people have to say about their own OOB's and crossovers. It's helps us all to understand them better. :-)

posted September 15, 2015 05:20 PM            

To picture this more graphically look at this globe with the dotted red lines drawn where the Tropic of Cancer lies at 23°16′ North, and the Tropic of Capricorn lies at 23°16′ South. These are approximately the boundary lines of the ecliptic. Notice the path of the Sun peaks in July just over the Tropic of Cancer at 23°27′ North at the summer solstice (summer in the northern hemisphere), and the path of the Sun peaks in December just over the Tropic of Capricorn at 23°27′ South at the winter solstice.

This is declination. Sun and planets’ paths move in a wave form north and south of the equatorial midline. When they near this area of 23° north or south they are considered in extreme declination (where their movement north/south slows down). When they pass over the ecliptic (Sun’s path) north or south they are 'out of bounds.'

posted September 15, 2015 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by VestasLight:
Hi Gabby, while O degrees declination is not an OOB, it is called a crossover. It's when a planet is crossing over the equator. These too have special significance.

I added crossovers to the list because they, like OOB planets are quite special in charts. :-)

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Welcome VestasLight!! So glad you decided to join in!!