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hearttreasure
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posted January 07, 2018 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Initiative = The ability to make decisions and take actions without waiting for someone to tell you what to do

What sign or aspect in a natal chart can indicate the lacking of initiative in a person?

Nothing more annoying than dealing with people who have no initiative. Lack of initiative in a relationship. Lack of initiative at work. Lack of initiative in a friendship. Lack of initiative at home. etc.

This comes in mind when observing between my bf and me. I almost the one who will always take the initiative and he is the one who will wait someone to tell him what to do while at the same time he hates being told what to do and likes control.

Is it lacking in initiative indicate the person has some selfishness and superior personality?

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posted January 07, 2018 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen that with Mars retrograde, especially in pisces

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posted January 07, 2018 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people lack initiative because of the availability of too many choices that make things complex and confusing. What to do? Am I even doing the right thing?

Others lack initiative because of being unclear or having a lack of seeing what the end goal is. Where am i I going? Why am I going there?

Most are impassive and "wait" for life to make choices for them because they are too comfortable with what is or are terrified of going outside the comfort zone. Why make the choice? Do I have to decide this red hot minute?

Mars/Moon in houses 3,6,9,12 especially in mutable signs often have difficulty with being stuck in the "thinking" and not enough doing.

I don't expect much initiative from Mars in Taurus, Sag or Pisces. Thats just my experience.

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posted January 07, 2018 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonlight swan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Leo but it's in my 7th house and I feel like I can lack initiative. The 7th house placement along with my sun in Libra is feel the culprit I feel! I get extremely motivated while surrounded by others or if someone even gives me the slightest nudge to do something, but it is painfully hard at times for me to motivate myself. I procrastinate tremendously and Neptune in first house along with my moon in 12th doesn't help with this as I daydream a lot and enjoy escapism. But THANK CHRIST I have some Earth to ground me a bit and some Scorpio to help me focus and take initiative when it is really needed!

I think Mars in the 7th house is a very difficult placement to have!

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posted January 07, 2018 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how did your boyfriend win you if he has no initiative is the real question.... i need to learn from this man

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posted January 07, 2018 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is truly of the personality (rather than depression, etc), then it is associated with water factors, Taurus; fixity of earth/water.

Cardinal signs (not always Cancer) are most identified with initiative as a general quality, but fire factors boost it.

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posted January 07, 2018 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Radium:
how did your boyfriend win you if he has no initiative is the real question.... i need to learn from this man


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posted January 07, 2018 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stellium in 7th house
Mars debilited

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posted January 08, 2018 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Libra Libra

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posted January 08, 2018 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Libra Libra Libra

^^^

Mars in Libra or Mars in the 7th.

And air signs in general.

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posted January 08, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
Libra Libra Libra


That was my guess because it is
opposition of Aries. The strikes
first sign.
Also Libra are so good
In dealing with the other, perhaps they
let others get on task first?
Like anything, it's not every Libra ,
if so.

In response to ^ Air sign in general. I
might agree. Not always am I so bad but being a triple ♒ I am less motivated, it can be a challenge in some ways too. Brain/body doesn't synch so easily as for the more grounded combos.

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posted January 09, 2018 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces/Neptune aspects/12h, Libra/Taurus/Venus/7h aspects,
Leo (esp moon) with Uranus/Sun aspect maybe too - doesnt like being told what to do but loves to cuddle and lounge at times.

Is he generally like this with everyone?

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posted January 13, 2018 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info.

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posted January 16, 2018 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the late response. I need a lot of bed rest due to frequent low blood pressure and at the same time dealing with some stressful situations.

Thanks for all the reply. I wish I can reply yours one by one but I can't be too long in front of the screen as I am too tired everyday.

quote:
Originally posted by Radium:
how did your boyfriend win you if he has no initiative is the real question.... i need to learn from this man

I think between us it was a sudden click of something. For me it was a sudden click of friendship and for him it was a sudden click of comfort as he told me he felt like he knew me for a long time and he felt like he had a long time relationship with me.

The mistake I realize that it was all too quick, and I can be a very understanding person until I feel like am taken for granted.

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Pisces/Neptune aspects/12h, Libra/Taurus/Venus/7h aspects,
Leo (esp moon) with Uranus/Sun aspect maybe too - doesnt like being told what to do but loves to cuddle and lounge at times.

Is he generally like this with everyone?


I honestly don't know if he is generally like this with everyone as we're still live separately and he puts some distance between me and his friends due to bad experience in the past.

But with his job (we were a co-worker in the past so I knew how he was at work) he is pretty much like this. He won't take actions unless his boss tells him what to do although then he is being grumpy as he doesn't like being told what to do. He won't make decisions until someone take the decision and he will be cranky or sulking all day. Pretty much similar within my relationship with him. He really really likes CONTROL but hates being controlled by others.

He has Air Sun opposite Uranus, Venus in Taurus, fall Mars, Mars/Neptune, and there's a probability that his moon is in 7th house.

I have Mars in Sag in 12th house, Venus in Pisces 3rd house, Air fixed sun, and I am definitely the opposite of him. Maybe because of my Aries moon?

Due to what we have been through right now where I need his cooperation to take the initiative and make the decision, he instead always leads us to the loooong argument. Geez. Why is it difficult? I wonder what aspect..

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