posted March 17, 2017 04:13 PM            

Pluto's hard transits (conjunction, parallels, squares, oppositions, contraparallels) to natal personal points, especially the Asc, Moon, Sun, MC.

Hard Pluto transits to the Moon can be so challenging, even the flowing transits (sextile, trine) can involve the activation of some underlying unhealthy emotions or thought forms that take time to sift out and leave behind.

In hard transits to natal Moon, Pluto can dredge up old patterns in the subconscious, old memories long left behind, even unhealthy longings, all of which can bring about a regression to less developed ways of dealing with such emotional factors simply because of the added pressure of Pluto upon this important chart point.

This is a necessary process to initiate cleansing and elimination by feeling/seeing the darker, uglier side to what we may still carry with us that will hinder our growth and liberation.

Understand that your emotional response to everything is intensified during these transits of Pluto to Moon. Righteous indignation may be triggered, but if triggered too often it becomes a fruitless exercise in ongoing reactionism. What is it you can learn through this about what lies within you?

And then it may be it triggers just indignation with no righteousness at all.

Consider the sign (and aspects of) your natal Moon is in to get clues as to the underlying unhealthy desires that are triggering this.

Consider it a learning period in which you find out just how much depth of emotional awareness and strength you have. You may find you don't have the depth of balance you thought, and that obsession becomes your approach to a number of things. Certainly it is helpful to make use of whatever therapeutic tools ease the body and the emotive stresses you feel, but don't just sedate the intensity of it all. Look for integration and to restore balance. Start with the simplest -- deep, slow breathing and mental detachment from the outward triggers.

It can be a time of cleansing, but this will most likely have to continue well after the transit is over, because once the deeper feelings and old thought forms are brought to the surface they are not deactivated by the transit fading out of range. They must then be dealt with by the adult -- if you are one -- or by those around you if you cannot.

Pluto transits to natal Sun or Mars have similarly intense effects, but on the ego that can begin long power struggles or resentments from being unable to back away and see/feel more objectively. Some physical strength and strength of personality may be gained during this time as you exercise asserting yourself more powerfully, but it is very easy to overdo, even easier than normal to justify over-reaction or harmful actions against others in order to win. Avoid enacting these energies in a rogue spirit of competition. Instead, look to cooperate more assertively and speak your truth without demeaning others.

Dynamics of dominance can enter in to your efforts or you may find yourself on the receiving end of this from those around you. Such conflicting energies are ego-bound, and you do not have to participate in them.

Pluto transits to natal Mercury and Venus deal in changes to our thinking/communicating and values/affection respectively. You may discover that certain beliefs and values you've been living by need to change. This will come with some stress to your mind/heart and it is very easy to become obsessed with an idea or another person.

Pluto awakening Venusian affections can be quite powerful, and help you become aware of latent feelings towards others, what you most appreciate or find most profoundly beautiful. Just don't mistake this for a relationship itself by letting possessiveness or unhealthy ruthlessness or cravings take hold.

Think of this time as a sifting period within yourself. Don't grasp at another person in a possessive manner or force your ideas on others or you will experience the worst these transits offer and experience negative long after effects.

Pluto transits to natal Nodes deal in changes of your life direction and sense of purpose and effect in the world. Think of Pluto's transit over/parallel to the South Node as a necessary re-awakening of the past in order to move forward. There can be a lot of self-discovery there, but it will be hard fought. Think of Pluto's transit over/parallel to the North Node as a necessary transformation of your future and life direction that gives greater purpose to all you have been through so far.

In either transit (over South or North Node) you may meet someone who helps transform your life, someone who brings empowerment as a life lesson if you will allow it. This is generally only possible if your attitudes towards relationships are in a healthy place (rather than a place of craving or possessiveness).

Hope this lends some insights into the powerful and long-lasting experiences Pluto can trigger that we often feel are negative. More to come.

posted March 17, 2017 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

Pluto transits to natal Nodes deal in changes of your life direction and sense of purpose and effect in the world. Think of Pluto's transit over/parallel to the South Node as a necessary re-awakening of the past in order to move forward. There can be a lot of self-discovery there, but it will be hard fought. Think of Pluto's transit over/parallel to the North Node as a necessary transformation of your future and life direction that gives greater purpose to all you have been through so far.

In either transit you may meet someone who helps transform your life, someone who brings empowerment as a life lesson if you will allow it. This is generally only possible if your attitudes towards relationships are in a healthy place (rather than a place of craving or possessiveness).

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the second paragraph refeers to the first?
if so I have met someone some month ago and Tr Pluto is very close to my NN now, the funny think is that her SN cnj, my NN

posted March 17, 2017 04:59 PM            

It than entered capricorn, opposed my sun and MC in Cancer, cnjcting my Uranus, passed over my Neptune and is going to cnj my NN now like I have said.

posted March 17, 2017 06:31 PM            

Tpluto still hitting my stellium (sun-uranus-neptune) and opposing my mars.

posted March 17, 2017 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
the second paragraph refeers to the first?
if so I have met someone some month ago and Tr Pluto is very close to my NN now, the funny think is that her SN cnj, my NN

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Yes, to the one preceding it about Pluto transits to the Nodes. I have amended the text for clarity.

posted March 17, 2017 07:09 PM            

I don't have any idea what happened to me during any of these. I'll make educated guesses though.

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Transit Pluto square my Midheaven likely had to do with my early education. I wasn't even 8 years old at the time of this transit.

If I had to guess, Pluto's opposition to my Moon happened when I was experiencing limerence. My limerent object was unobtainable from the start, but my obsession eventually burned out. I suspect that limerence lasted well after the transit ended. It wasn't until I was 19 that I got past it. The limerence I experienced lasted for a few years - from the time I was 16 to the time I became 19 and maybe a couple months after my 19th birthday.

All I could find with Pluto conjunct my North Node was I met my best friend around that time. She's a Scorpio Sun. Other than this, I'm not sure anything more specific happened during the transit. On the other hand, I was still recovering from the Pluto opposition to my Moon at this time. I was so limerent that I couldn't focus on anything but my limerent object.

Most likely, the Pluto square Natal Mars transit happened during a limerent-related situation. So far, I haven't found anything in my post history on the Internet to confirm this.

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And moving into something more recent: Pluto trine Natal Sun back in 2016.

My sense of identity became more clear last year, but it came after several months of struggling. I eventually got relief at the end of August and I ended up in a better situation than before the transit began.

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My next Pluto transit is coming up next year or sometime in early 2019 (depending on the orbs you use for transits).

posted March 17, 2017 11:47 PM            

I was living in a very biblically conservative area in the South and I did not fit in. I started messing around with, erm.. illegal substances since the 6th grade. That's quite young I know, but I have a mother who occupies more of a friend role than a disciplinarian and at the time I was living with her. About 3 weeks after Pluto came to 16 degrees Sagittarius, squaring my Moon at 16 degrees Virgo, a friend of mine and me while messing around and getting high at my house phoned in a bomb threat to our school. I was arrested for that and everything they found in my possession and sent to juvenile detention for one week, and after that I had to attend school at the juvenile detention center's alternative school. To make matters worse, my mom dropped me off at my dad's house for one weekend and never came back to pick me up. The next time I would see her would be adulthood. Now, my dad is the person I am closest to in life and he's extremely loving and supporting. The lack of support I had while living with my mom made my lifestyle possible, but it was severely out of context in my dad's house. While at the "Alternative Learning Center," I had classmates who were a lot worse off than me and without the safe environment I had at home. This period of my life was filled with witnessing very disturbing and unfortunate predicaments. We were all just children, some as young as 11 and 12.

Pluto started to retrograde and came back to 16 deg Sagittarius in May, near the end of the school year. Right around that time, My dad sat me down for a talk, and he basically told me that if I keep going the way I'm going, I'm going to end up wasting my life away. He got a job offer in Seattle and he thought the radical change in environment would be good for me. Moving to Seattle saved my life for sure. My dad is originally from there, so we were surrounded by loving and supportive family friends. He enrolled me in a private arts high school, and there I started to actually get excited about learning things and preparing a future for myself.

This wasn't the happy ending though. Two years later, Pluto hit retrograde and came back to the square. What ended up happening at the arts school was the same browbeating and closed mindedness of a different sort I had all my academic life. After being accused of suicidal thoughts based on my essay writings and being allegedly heard crying in the bathroom (what???), and having healing help I didn't really ask for shoved down my throat, I realized that my school has painted a picture of me as a manic depressive lost soul and that nothing I could say about them will change their mind. So, I left that school and applied for a jump start program at the local community college. This was at the end of the retrograde period when Pluto came right back to the square. It moved past the square for good after that.

In my adult life, I met someone at a time when Pluto was conjunct to their Sun/Venus/Mercury/Mars stellium in Capricorn. Over the past four years Pluto has retrograded and retransited over this stellium several times. Every single time it happens it somehow brings us together again even though we've long since went our separate ways so to speak. It has now moved past this stellium for good so I can't help but wonder if the relationship has ran its course. I'm still in love with him so that's hard.

posted March 18, 2017 01:54 PM            

Pluto quincunx (150°) natal Moon

This is a transit of inner transformation, which will not feel pleasant, but has the constructive potential and cleansing and renewal if you are willing to practice letting go of the old and setting new patterns.

Be proactive about your health and get a thorough physical checkup.

Pluto acting upon the natal Moon indicates at least a psychological shift in the old inner you, or at least a potential end to some habituated patterns that have been holding you back. Old indulgences may no longer be possible if you want to remain healthy. This process will not be pleasant at first, and will feel like loss.

There is great potential here, but only if you are proactive at internalizing an attitude open to cleansing, even grieving. This transit is one that if utilized positively can open up new aspects of your inner strength, how you cope and deal with loss and how you feel about yourself.

Expect some events to arise in your circumstances that seem to force this. Don't fight them, just look for how you can adjust your perspective and call on better internal resources to make an adjustment that will be healthier long term. Otherwise negative attitudes and depression can sink in, further complicating the patterns that need changing.

posted March 18, 2017 03:14 PM            

There are some very deep fears surrounding security that are surfacing. I have always thought that it would happen all on its own. But nope

Its the unknown that is scary. Trusting fate. Will it work out? Will i survive? How deeply will i be changed? Will i like whom i will become?

posted March 18, 2017 05:05 PM            

Transit is over, but I'm still recovering.

posted March 18, 2017 11:43 PM            

Currently tr Pluto square natal Moon

I cry all night and finally can sleep in the morning today. My memory recalls old events that left behind where the problems are never solved and where my side story is never heard or I feel like my feelings/my existence were abandoned in the past.

It's mix with fear and security too, definitely about present and future. There's a little bit dark thought (as I have mercury/pluto) but as I know since I was little raised by venus in pisces mother, I don't let it consume me.

Finally I decide to talk with the person I've never had any closure of about past problems and where I feel misunderstood all the time.

posted March 19, 2017 01:49 AM            

I have been having a lot of memories coming back in the past few weeks but they are good memories which have helped me be more appreciative of my life, focusing more on the whole picture..

I also feel that I am working through a lot and releasing a lot of karma, from darkness to light. It is darkest before dawn. I feel pluto rules dualities, its extreme nature supports this, light and darkness, death and rebirth. There cannot be light without darkness, there cannot be life without death.

Looking forward to the spring, I can already feel it. Spring feels like a new love.

posted March 19, 2017 03:52 PM            

When Pluto hit Merc, the lesson here was to altogether detach from what was going on in the world at large

This resolution came after finding out a fav author of mine had made racist remarks. It devastated me quite deeply and i couldnt sleep for days after that.

Add to that, the political turbulence that Pluto-Uranus square brought about to the country at large. I felt so outraged and powerless to stop stupid politicians dividing people by reaching for the mic😠

@Diogenes The lack of emotional support came from Saturn transits ime. And perhaps even Uranus.

Pluto has resulted in me pulling away from others due to heightened sensitivity than the other way around. There is a general attitude of being cagey and prickly about letting your true feelings known prematurely.

posted March 19, 2017 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Diogenes:
Would you say Transit Pluto conjunct natal Moon could denote lack of support from the mother, lack of support from important female groups to the individual?[QUOTE]

Not necessarily. It really depends on the person's age and point in their development. Think of it as process more than circumstantial developments.

My experience of this recently is that my relationships with my wife, mother, and women in general were and are good, including with groups of women (volunteer group). In fact, I seem to have had an inordinate effect upon that volunteer group (all women) after they invited me into it. However, my mother was experiencing ongoing health difficulties that I was eventually able to help her overcome once I understood them better.

Mostly I had to see what underlying desires for control (natal Moon in Capricorn) I still had and how turning too much of my attention to such attempts for external controls(politics, etc) is counterproductive and caused me to lose my internal balance.

It depends on age, what the present needs are (lunar issue), and maturity. For a child this transit could be far more challenging in more basic ways. Some youngsters' parents divorce during hard Pluto transits to their own Moon, or they undergo a radical change in their home situation and relation to at least one parent.

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Or could be meeting an important mother like (plutonian) Powerful female figure?

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Yes, that could be as well, depending on the person's chart and life. For example, if someone is really needing a strong female presence in their life, because they don't have it, that could be one possible experience. This transit opens up such windows of opportunity, but may seem like an emotional can of worms that spills out all over.

My #1 advice to people going through it is do whatever it takes to stay balanced, calm, and peaceful. Whatever it takes.

The transit defines a window of opportunity characterized by what Moon and Pluto have in common. That lies below the level of consciousness where subjective needs of emotion and desire are.

One thing is sure, during this transit feelings get very strong, even if they are not expressed outwardly. It can become more difficult to tolerate the needs and emotions of others while you are dealing with your own.

Aries23Degrees, thanks for the good cheer! You've also hit on the irony of Pluto, which is that while it relates to power and powerful persons or transformative experiences, it presents us with the challenge of internal empowerment rather than reliance on external alignments.

Honestly, I don't know how I would have handled the Uranus-Pluto square effects if I had not developed to the point I had before it came along. Right now I'm having to go back to better habits left behind, and simplify my life all over again. But it is worth it.

posted March 19, 2017 07:22 PM            

An interesting poser. With the nodal affects mentioned, would you also class the inconjunct/quincunx as a significant transit?

A good friend of mine has NN at 16 Gemini. Pluto was quincunx this point at around the time we started to work a lot closer together - we have become pretty close in the last year especially and have forged a strong friendship, unlike either of us have apparently experienced thus far.

posted March 19, 2017 08:30 PM            

Ie - if a composite/Davison chart had SN at 21 Capricorn in the first, and NN at 21 Cancer in the 7H, how might this manifest?

posted March 19, 2017 09:33 PM            

Pluto's quincunx transits are usually pretty significant, just shorter than others. But yes, even though some may not want to call this a 'hard' transit to the Nodes, it can still be pretty significant, especially if accompanied by other transits of some duration, or reinforced by synastry as you described.

I use an orb of 5° for transiting Pluto's conjunctions, squares, oppositions (and trines); about 4° for the sextile; a bit under 1° for parallel and contra-parallel transits in declination.

I won't comment on composites here, as that is a whole other can of worms (interpersonal).