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astrosaz
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posted June 22, 2018 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In this Video at Robert Pattison says he's a Taurus rising at 2.29 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y0RyoZcJ30

What time do you think he was born? I can imagine him having Taurus Rising in the later degrees because he seems very 12th house and I can also imagine him having neptune in his 8th or atleast something in his 8th.

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posted June 22, 2018 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 22, 2018 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where do you get triple Taurus from? On astrotheme, it says he is a Taurus sun, Cancer moon, and Cancer ASC with Pisces MC which I think is very believable to me. The guy definitely does not come off as having that much Taurus/Fixed energy. Astrodatabank also gives Cancer moon and ASC though it has a C rodden rating.
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Robert_Pattinson
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pattinson,_Robert

I feel that all that Taurus energy also does not match up with his relationship to Kristen Stewart. Under his current birth time, they are both Cardinal heavy with his Venus in her 1st and her Venus conjunct his 10th. Their relationsip was ridiculously messy for her image (Venus in her 1st) and his career (Venus conj his 10th), he basically laid very low in his career after Twilight and their relationship was over.

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posted June 22, 2018 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he is a triple taurus, that means he has a completely different birthday or he just doesn't know what he's talking about when he says triple taurus lol

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posted June 22, 2018 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he means he is a Taurus Sun, Merc and Rising sign.

Even though I think Cancer Rising is also believeable, I personally think it's more reliable coming from him than Astrotheme.

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posted June 22, 2018 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No wonder he looks boring

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posted June 22, 2018 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose I can kind of see some Taurus ASC in him. He does sometimes appear to have Aquarius MC, such as in his facial features. He has a very meaty and rounded facial figure of someone with Aquarius and Taurus prominent, like Henry Cavill or Max Brown. I feel that Cancer moon is what is making his lower body more...bony and lithe in appearance, though. Aqua MC would also explain his unconventional behavior at times, such as dating FKA twigs out of nowhere and of course hating the movie series that made him the most famous lol.

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posted June 23, 2018 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the Gemini Venus come through in interviews.

I wonder if Venus is contra parallel Mars?

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posted June 23, 2018 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does he not look like a Taurus rising? The man practically looks like a polished rock lol

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posted June 23, 2018 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
How does he not look like a Taurus rising? The man practically looks like a polished rock lol

He just looks very Cancerian to me. The Taurus energy I get from him, I assumed is from his Taurus sun of course. But I do see Aquarius MC in him, very much so.

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posted June 23, 2018 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aqua MC would also explain his unconventional behavior at times, such as dating FKA twigs out of nowhere and of course hating the movie series that made him the most famous lol.

I don't think that's unconventional. Most guys hated Twilight (sure, a FEW guys loved it, just as a few girls hated it, and those are the unconventional ones). I recall when guys seemed happy to be going with their girlfriends to Hunger Games, at first I figured they were just relieved it wasn't a Twilight movie.

I also recall a few Pattison comments in how someone like Edward would be like an axe murderer, and that a woman who loved a guy who said he killed many and wanted to kill her but loved him anyway was even more mental, and that the author seemed mental for genuinely seeming to fantasize about Edward, meant he realized how messed up it was. And his tone wasn't one of contempt (at least not in the specific interview I recall), but of troubled concern, which I can understand. I recall when a preteen girl got me to read Twilight saying how good it was and I finally did...and was thinking, "Oh god, don't let her think that's a healthy romance or that Edward is a prime catch." (I also had a nightmare of Edward stalking me instead of Bella right after reading it, and I felt more like Sarah Connor in Terminator in response rather than getting the warm fuzzies that "he cared so much.")

And I believe that's the same reason the very idea disturbed Pattison, because there were almost certainly girls he cared for (say niece, sister, maybe even an aunt, etc) who was gaga over Edward and he didn't want to encourage that anymore than he'd want to encourage them to shoot up meth, and so of course was troubled by the script he had signed up for once the story and the character fully sank in (and he might also be concerned about boys he cared about getting the wrong message that it's okay to act that way as if it worked in real life as it does fiction).

On top of that I know some actors hate playing villains because they either feel like they channel a bit, taking on characteristics in their real life, or they feel they can only play a role if some part of them can connect to such a character...if Pattison is like that then I can see another reason for him to not want to play Edward.

In case it needs to be said, he was a villain, no matter how hot he was. Oh! I just remembered a prison guard telling me how popular Twilight was among the serial rapists, murderers, and like, which does not surprise me that those particularly men liked Twilight. (ETA: Not saying all males who like Twilight are violent psychopaths, and of the very rare male who liked it that I encountered, they just loved anything with vampires & werewolves and/or loved superhero stories with the vampires being more like mutant superheroes who had to hide than actual vampires. Oddly enough, there used to be an idealistic vegan male on LL who loved Twilight, despite that the Cullens ate animals. And one gay male who was a huge an of the series liked it for the same reason as plenty of women, though he did like the idea of Edward and Jacob running away together, leaving whiny Bella behind. )

The point being, I don't see Edward as being unconventional at all for disliking the story and character...though I'm also aware of how they can be forced to play roles (or face stiff penalties and/or ruin any chance of a future career by breaking a contract--or even just getting fired after signing a contract--unless they're already a superstar), and that actors are sometimes (often?) lied to in order to get them to sign, thus committing them to the part.

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posted June 23, 2018 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I don't think that's unconventional. Most guys hated Twilight (sure, a FEW guys loved it, just as a few girls hated it, and those are the unconventional ones). I recall when guys seemed happy to be going with their girlfriends to Hunger Games, at first I figured they were just relieved it wasn't a Twilight movie.

I also recall a few Pattison comments in how someone like Edward would be like an axe murderer, and that a woman who loved a guy who said he killed many and wanted to kill her but loved him anyway was even more mental, and that the author seemed mental for genuinely seeming to fantasize about Edward, meant he realized how messed up it was. And his tone wasn't one of contempt (at least not in the specific interview I recall), but of troubled concern, which I can understand. I recall when a preteen girl got me to read Twilight saying how good it was and I finally did...and was thinking, "Oh god, don't let her think that's a healthy romance or that Edward is a prime catch." (I also had a nightmare of Edward stalking me instead of Bella right after reading it, and I felt more like Sarah Connor in Terminator in response rather than getting the warm fuzzies that "he cared so much.")

And I believe that's the same reason the very idea disturbed Pattison, because there were almost certainly girls he cared for (say niece, sister, maybe even an aunt, etc) who was gaga over Edward and he didn't want to encourage that anymore than he'd want to encourage them to shoot up meth, and so of course was troubled by the script he had signed up for once the story and the character fully sank in (and he might also be concerned about boys he cared about getting the wrong message that it's okay to act that way as if it worked in real life as it does fiction).

On top of that I know some actors hate playing villains because they either feel like they channel a bit, taking on characteristics in their real life, or they feel they can only play a role if some part of them can connect to such a character...if Pattison is like that then I can see another reason for him to not want to play Edward.

In case it needs to be said, he was a villain, no matter how hot he was. Oh! I just remembered a prison guard telling me how popular Twilight was among the serial rapists, murderers, and like, which does not surprise me that those particularly men liked Twilight. (ETA: Not saying all males who like Twilight are violent psychopaths, and of the very rare male who liked it that I encountered, they just loved anything with vampires & werewolves and/or loved superhero stories with the vampires being more like mutant superheroes who had to hide than actual vampires. Oddly enough, there used to be an idealistic vegan male on LL who loved Twilight, despite that the Cullens ate animals. And one gay male who was a huge an of the series liked it for the same reason as plenty of women, though he did like the idea of Edward and Jacob running away together, leaving whiny Bella behind. )

The point being, I don't see Edward as being unconventional at all for disliking the story and character...though I'm also aware of how they can be forced to play roles (or face stiff penalties and/or ruin any chance of a future career by breaking a contract--or even just getting fired after signing a contract--unless they're already a superstar), and that actors are sometimes (often?) lied to in order to get them to sign, thus committing them to the part.


I don't really feel like reading this whole thing, but hating the movie that made you the most famous and gave you the biggest income out of dozens of other actors and actresses at that time is definitely 'unconventional". You should also remember that many of the other cast members of Twilight also have Aquarius/fixed prominent in their chart, so yes it does make sense that almost all of them hated the movie (at some point) that gave them the most clout in their careers. Fixed signs are so picky and stubborn, they don't like anything unless it is specifically to their tastes. Aquarius always does the least expected and that is definitely unexpected coming from a cast of people who always seemed so comfortable and content on set filming for Twilight in their BTS videos. The movie series was also released when Neptune was in its final stages of Aquarius so there is no wonder that it had such a back-and-forth between people absolutely loving it and absolutely hating it, even the cast lol. That Aquarian power of hating the mainstream while simultaneously partaking in the mainstream was at its PEAK.

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posted June 23, 2018 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nearly every romance out there today has unhealthy, unrealistic standards. Twilight is mild in comparison to some things out there, even on TV. Even the standard "Typical American husband/wife" stereotype is unhealthy. People barely bat an eye about that because that's what's been so normalized that people barely even notice anything wrong with it. What passes as normal romance in our society, be it about vampires or the mundane, is rife with toxic normalization.

It's what people don't talk about that is concerning. Which screams that Twilight was a scapegoat.

Bad examples exist everywhere and have always existed in media. Even while Twilight was in theaters, other shows and movies targeted at teens showed very unhealthy relationship standards.

Before Twilight existed, a plethora of more adult oriented romance novels existed, and most teens that were into reading romance, did read those, and trust me they were far worse than Twilight.

As for its 'bad influence' on teen girls, worst case scenario, they remain retarded for life and never have a successful love life (don't need young adult fiction for that, though).


Best case scenario: they grow up and get real relationship experience :P

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Aquarius always does the least expected and that is definitely unexpected coming from a cast of people who always seemed so comfortable and content on set filming for Twilight in their BTS videos

Could just have been because of all the negative hype about it.

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posted June 28, 2018 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked those movies. Team Jacob!

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posted June 28, 2018 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I was misunderstood, so I'll just say that I was talking about Robert Pattison as well as guys in general not liking Twilight, rather than the merits (and lack thereof) of the story itself. Some guys don't like it because of sparkling romance instead of horror, others because it doesn't really speak of vampires as social outcasts but rather as a type of elite (and therefore don't relate).

And then still other guys (like Pattison) expressed problems with how he viewed the message of the story and the character he portrayed. I tried to explain that above and won't do so again. Guys who liked it are the unconventional ones, just as females who didn't like it. Again, I'm saying that Robert Pattison was not being unconventional by disliking Twilight. Though it IS unconventional to dislike something that makes you a lot of money (as he did) so there is that...though it shouldn't be too surprising in a guy who cares about the kind of character he's portraying and seeing Edward as a bad guy. 'Course the vast majority of people are neither pure saintly or sellout, but a mix of both as Pattison is.

As for Twilight itself independent of Pattison's sentiments (and that of many guys), that's a different topic. (I'd also add that I think people who raised a fuss over it were more concerned with how popular it was rather than the content. That is if it wasn't as intensely popular as it was then there wouldn't have been a backlash against it, both those worried about what it said about us a society and others who hated it but felt obligated or pressured to see it, particularly guys with their girlfriends.)

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posted June 29, 2018 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Triple means sun moon asc. Unless you call me a double virgo because I have Uranus and Pluto in virgo, and double Gemini for sun and Mercury (so I'm a double double?)

Cancer moon means he can't be triple Taurus. He might be double on or the other depending on the ASC.

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posted June 29, 2018 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he was just fumbling when he said triple taurus. He seems to be a very easily flustered guy, has to catch himself before he speaks. When he speaks too long he lowers his head a bit and kind of hides into himself/into the seat. So much feminine energy in his chart, he's seems a bit shy.

Someone should just send him a message on social media (if he has it) and ask what his birth time is. He clearly likes astrology enough to know what an ascendant is so I am sure he would be comfortable telling people.

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posted July 04, 2018 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 09, 2018 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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