posted August 12, 2018 03:32 PM            

I spent yesterday afternoon reading up on the Vertex.

Transiting Pluto in Capricorn is traveling through your 9th House, along with the South Node (presently in Aquarius.. and due to shift to Capricorn). Saturn is also in Capricorn at present. You have your Vertex in Capricorn in the 9th House.

QUOTE - ref Bob Marks
Capricorn: The individual will be called to develop skills in responsible leadership.
It is essential that you learn to accept duties and obligations for a future control.
Leadership and organizational ability go hand-in-hand and you must learn patience to cultivate these skills.
Do not allow your emotions and fears to interfere with a realistic attitude in administration.
It is essential that the individual not allow the needs of home, family or feelings of insecurity to impede in fulfilling your destiny and thereby rise to a position of respect.
end/quote

The Vertex, when calculated, is only in the 5th through 8th houses. You must be using Whole Houses. They have no interpretation for 9th.

The 9th house is God's House. House of higher spirituality and religion, of gurus and teachers, as well as publishing, and higher education, foreign travels.

Vertex is known to suddenly 'shift' things... turn them upside-down or inside-out? Acts like planet Uranus. OR the experience could have been an 'internal' shift?

There are times when transits to VX does NOTHING.

The Vertex is a kind of descendant axis (7th).
Transits (or synastries) happening with Vertex and the Anti-Vertex (opp/across from it) can have an affect like a planet crossing (or conjuncting) an ascendant/descendant.

Is this person planning to be a part of your future? ..
or, was this person just playing a 'significant' part in your spiritual awakening process and is now not as much a part of your life?

With the North Node in your 2nd? going to 3rd House?
.. Something that was more foreign and further away from you could become part of your day-to-day world. Become an experience that is 'more local' to you, more 'tribe' to you. A sense of 'family' may be incorporated more into your attitudes and thoughts patterns.

Are you thinking about joining a spiritual-type Community?

Are you keeping a diary of your adventures?

With Saturn to the Vertex {from what I've read} there can be an ending to a 'form' of what started?

I'm going to 'guess' that the Aug 11 LEO eclipse happened either to your H8 or H9?

Some present state of event can shift and change..

For example, a person who was in a relationship dating, shifts the relationship by committing to an engagement; like a single person becoming a parent. One perspective ends, and life gets viewed through a new lens?

Spiritual growth and development is also about relationship of self to Higher. It is always important to 'ground' what changes had developed in you.

I'm thinking about the story of a donkey who fell down a dry well. The towns folk came and started pouring buckets of soil on top of him. The donkey was able to step on top of each bucket-load, until finally it made its way to the top.

There are people who go to others to 'get prayed for' -- they want "covering" {buckets} over their life.

There's a SHIFT that occurs when you "then" can learn to voice and pray those prayers for your own self!! Prayers that come FROM the deepest part of you {from your inner well, from your own Core} to God.

Do you only feel able to be "spiritual" when you are around this special person you met?

Are you "applying" what you have learned in 2007?

Saturn is good at helping with discipline, and applying whatever things you learn?

*~

For my own transit of Saturn to VX?
My Vertex is in sign of Cancer, conjunct Uranus, and in the 8th House.

Saturn takes 29/30 years to go around a chart.

I've had that transit twice in my life.
First time, there was nothing significant.

The second time, I was in the middle of my Chiron Return and other very significant changes to my chart, including the preparation for a soli-lunar Progressed New Moon change.

I can't 'pin down' only Saturn's involvement.

posted August 13, 2018 02:01 PM            

I've noticed that Saturn transits for me are as spiritual in nature as they are a reality check. It's actually very odd. Saturn isn't known for being spiritual, but I think having Neptune in Capricorn might be a contributing factor given that Saturn rules Capricorn. Saturn and Neptune also aspect each other in my natal chart, which might be another contributing factor. This said, Saturn's conjunction to my Vertex didn't mean anything.

The South Node conjunct my natal Vertex didn't mean anything either.

Although Pluto's transit to my Vertex was the opposition rather than the conjunction, it may have had a similar effect. In July 2014, my relationship with my boyfriend began. I don't think my boyfriend is specifically significant when it comes to my spiritual awakening. He just changed my life in other ways and those ways helped me with some of my issues. In 2015, the opposition had more of an effect. It didn't trigger a spiritual awakening, but all the synchronicity that was happening during Pluto's opposition to my Vertex may have led up to one. I have no idea if what happened in 2015 was from Pluto opposing my Vertex. The synchronicity certainly transformed me though and that's what Pluto does.

posted August 15, 2018 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Welcome, LL-Eclipse!

I spent yesterday afternoon reading up on the Vertex.

Transiting Pluto in Capricorn is traveling through your 9th House, along with the South Node (presently in Aquarius.. and due to shift to Capricorn). Saturn is also in Capricorn at present. You have your Vertex in Capricorn in the 9th House.

QUOTE - ref Bob Marks
Capricorn: The individual will be called to develop skills in responsible leadership.
It is essential that you learn to accept duties and obligations for a future control.
Leadership and organizational ability go hand-in-hand and you must learn patience to cultivate these skills.
Do not allow your emotions and fears to interfere with a realistic attitude in administration.
It is essential that the individual not allow the needs of home, family or feelings of insecurity to impede in fulfilling your destiny and thereby rise to a position of respect.
end/quote

The Vertex, when calculated, is only in the 5th through 8th houses. You must be using Whole Houses. They have no interpretation for 9th.

The 9th house is God's House. House of higher spirituality and religion, of gurus and teachers, as well as publishing, and higher education, foreign travels.

Vertex is known to suddenly 'shift' things... turn them upside-down or inside-out? Acts like planet Uranus. OR the experience could have been an 'internal' shift?

There are times when transits to VX does NOTHING.

The Vertex is a kind of descendant axis (7th).
Transits (or synastries) happening with Vertex and the Anti-Vertex (opp/across from it) can have an affect like a planet crossing (or conjuncting) an ascendant/descendant.

Is this person planning to be a part of your future? ..
or, was this person just playing a 'significant' part in your spiritual awakening process and is now not as much a part of your life?

With the North Node in your 2nd? going to 3rd House?
.. Something that was more foreign and further away from you could become part of your day-to-day world. Become an experience that is 'more local' to you, more 'tribe' to you. A sense of 'family' may be incorporated more into your attitudes and thoughts patterns.

Are you thinking about joining a spiritual-type Community?

Are you keeping a diary of your adventures?

With Saturn to the Vertex {from what I've read} there can be an ending to a 'form' of what started?

I'm going to 'guess' that the Aug 11 LEO eclipse happened either to your H8 or H9?

Some present state of event can shift and change..

For example, a person who was in a relationship dating, shifts the relationship by committing to an engagement; like a single person becoming a parent. One perspective ends, and life gets viewed through a new lens?

Spiritual growth and development is also about relationship of self to Higher. It is always important to 'ground' what changes had developed in you.

I'm thinking about the story of a donkey who fell down a dry well. The towns folk came and started pouring buckets of soil on top of him. The donkey was able to step on top of each bucket-load, until finally it made its way to the top.

There are people who go to others to 'get prayed for' -- they want "covering" {buckets} over their life.

There's a SHIFT that occurs when you "then" can learn to voice and pray those prayers for your own self!! Prayers that come FROM the deepest part of you {from your inner well, from your own Core} to God.

Do you only feel able to be "spiritual" when you are around this special person you met?

Are you "applying" what you have learned in 2007?

Saturn is good at helping with discipline, and applying whatever things you learn?

*~

For my own transit of Saturn to VX?
My Vertex is in sign of Cancer, conjunct Uranus, and in the 8th House.

Saturn takes 29/30 years to go around a chart.

I've had that transit twice in my life.
First time, there was nothing significant.

The second time, I was in the middle of my Chiron Return and other very significant changes to my chart, including the preparation for a soli-lunar Progressed New Moon change.

I can't 'pin down' only Saturn's involvement.

Take Care!

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posted August 15, 2018 06:22 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lerena:
-Saturn was conjunct my natal Vertex in middle school.
-The South Node conjunct my natal Vertex was sometime in 2010.
-Pluto will never conjunct my Vertex, but it did oppose my Vertex in 2014 and 2015.

I've noticed that Saturn transits for me are as spiritual in nature as they are a reality check. It's actually very odd. Saturn isn't known for being spiritual, but I think having Neptune in Capricorn might be a contributing factor given that Saturn rules Capricorn. Saturn and Neptune also aspect each other in my natal chart, which might be another contributing factor. This said, Saturn's conjunction to my Vertex didn't mean anything.

The South Node conjunct my natal Vertex didn't mean anything either.

Although Pluto's transit to my Vertex was the opposition rather than the conjunction, it may have had a similar effect. In July 2014, my relationship with my boyfriend began. I don't think my boyfriend is specifically significant when it comes to my spiritual awakening. He just changed my life in other ways and those ways helped me with some of my issues. In 2015, the opposition had more of an effect. It didn't trigger a spiritual awakening, but all the synchronicity that was happening during Pluto's opposition to my Vertex may have led up to one. I have no idea if what happened in 2015 was from Pluto opposing my Vertex. The synchronicity certainly transformed me though and that's what Pluto does.

I'm not sure that transits to the Vertex mean anything. They seem to be a hit-or-miss.

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posted August 16, 2018 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Eclipse:
Thanks mirage29!
By the system of houses of whole signs, the my Vertex is in the 10th house.
And by the system of houses placidus, the my Vertex is in the 9th house.
Yes, it was an internal shift. But it only started to happen after he came into my life. And after he's gone, I continued being spiritual.
This person is no longer part of my life, because of a mistake I made. She only came to teach me an important lesson and disappeared from my life, only left remembrance and misses. The my story with him is a little complicated story. (I was up until thinking about doing a post telling the our story and the aspects that we have on our the synastry chart so that the more experienced can help me analyze... Because I think the our story is very synchronized with our synastry chart.) The my north node is at 27 degrees of gemini in the 2nd house. And I agree with everything you're saying here in this part. You described exactly how I feel this year. [/b]2007 was a year of mourning and strange events for me. I do not know if I'm learning everything that Saturn wants to teach me, but I'm trying at least. hahaha And yes, I am thinking of joining a spiritual-type community.[/b] I do not know in which house the eclipse it occurred. And I'm not keeping a diary of my adventures. I apologize if I said anything wrong, but english is not my native language.

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Your English is very good. I admire people that post here, with English being a second-language they are learning. :thumbsup:

Try not to "blame" yourself. Analyze? yes. But do not punish yourself unduly. The meeting of the two of you sounds very magical. That's part of what "fated" (Vertex) relationships do. From what I have read, many of those sudden-glamorous attractions can take a very toxic and negative turn, later. :bheart:

Remember and cultivate inside yourself what it 'felt' like to feel so Rich in Love, and attention! LOL

With you being a more 'spiritually conscious' person, interested in improving self, I think it is very human to want to blame yourself for the 'rejection'? .. *hug*

Some experiences, as they say, are meant to "remind" you of something you HAVE inside you already, that were you NOT to have met up with this person at that time, you would not have had the 'awakening or reminding'-- the evoking of something IN you that you needed for the next part of your Journey.

"Pain" is so harsh. Sometimes, it's just NOT your fault, okay? Some people are sooo good at turning things inward upon themselves. The experience was designed to make you Aware and more 'in the now'.

Like a stick to break the waters in the uterus of an overly-pregnant woman, that facilitates The Birth. We can be having birth pains, but have these not being efficient-enough to have labor that is 'effective.'

In the process of giving Birth, once the waters are broken and released, the birth canal is washed, cleansed, and prepared. The baby's head becomes more-engaged to help with the thinning of the cervix, helping each muscular contraction of that uterus become MUCH-more productive and efficient for the mother's energy-output.

I chuckle... WE are Children of the Universe.
We have the Right to Be Here. We are all here by Divine Grace to Replicate The Plan of Love on the planet.

I wish you much Joy, and enormous Good Luck in the years ahead. *Heart*

With warmth, I relay to you something I've heard an astrologer say about Saturn. I like it! I have a difficult Saturn position in my own chart, where it comes to love. So, I'll share it with you, as though this were to be True!

He said that Saturn DOES give credit for "trying" and for difficult aspects and transit? … haha

Saturn {and God?} knows that there are configurations that are just plainly more "difficult"!!!, and need a different kind of grading-compensation system. :bheart:
.. Saturn cuts a break by giving extra-points for the "level of difficulty" of a move-- like in sports, and the point-systems used for the Olympic Games. You can "mess-up" and STILL be declared a Winner.

Love and Relationships can really hurt inside when things don't work out like we thought or imagined.

I know that for myself, I tend to 'idealize' each and every person I meet, or situation I find myself in. I see The Best, and miss the flags that say things I would NEED to pay attention to, for my own protections?
.. I have seen (in my lifetime) how giving the other person A Chance, HAS helped highlight TO that other person what is Possible or Good about them. For some people on certain trajectories, this is a Blessing to them that someone can see through the faults and Touch their Best Selves?
.. It's up to *them* at that point to Receive that vision, or to act against it-- pushing ME into the garbage column of their life...

But alas! LOL.
One person's disposable garbage, is another's Treasure?

You/We are STILL Loved, and Much-Lovable. :yourstar:

Do your Best!, in EVERY situation … Always.
Apply plenty of self-forgiveness.

Today is the birthday anniversary of singer Eydie Gorme.

(music) If He Walked Into My Life *bheart* *heart* (Eydie Gorme, 1967) [4:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67AlpAz1U

posted August 16, 2018 09:56 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Eclipse:
Thanks mirage29!
By the system of houses of whole signs, the my Vertex is in the 10th house.
And by the system of houses placidus, the my Vertex is in the 9th house.
Yes, it was an internal shift. But it only started to happen after he came into my life. And after he's gone, I continued being spiritual.
This person is no longer part of my life, because of a mistake I made. She only came to teach me an important lesson and disappeared from my life, only left remembrance and misses. The my story with him is a little complicated story. (I was up until thinking about doing a post telling the our story and the aspects that we have on our the synastry chart so that the more experienced can help me analyze... Because I think the our story is very synchronized with our synastry chart.) The my north node is at 27 degrees of gemini in the 2nd house. And I agree with everything you're saying here in this part. You described exactly how I feel this year. [/b]2007 was a year of mourning and strange events for me. I do not know if I'm learning everything that Saturn wants to teach me, but I'm trying at least. hahaha And yes, I am thinking of joining a spiritual-type community.[/b] I do not know in which house the eclipse it occurred. And I'm not keeping a diary of my adventures. I apologize if I said anything wrong, but english is not my native language.

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Your English is very good. I admire people that post here, with English being a second-language they are learning.

Try not to "blame" yourself. Analyze? yes. But do not punish yourself unduly. The meeting of the two of you sounds very magical. That's part of what "fated" (Vertex) relationships do. From what I have read, many of those sudden-glamorous attractions can take a very toxic and negative turn, later.

Remember and cultivate inside yourself what it 'felt' like to feel so Rich in Love, and attention! LOL

With you being a more 'spiritually conscious' person, interested in improving self, I think it is very human to want to blame yourself for the 'rejection'? .. *hug*

Some experiences, as they say, are meant to "remind" you of something you HAVE inside you already, that were you NOT to have met up with this person at that time, you would not have had the 'awakening or reminding'-- the evoking of something IN you that you needed for the next part of your Journey.

"Pain" is so harsh. Sometimes, it's just NOT your fault, okay? Some people are sooo good at turning things inward upon themselves. The experience was designed to make you Aware and more 'in the now'.

Like a stick to break the waters in the uterus of an overly-pregnant woman, that facilitates The Birth. We can be having birth pains, but have these not being efficient-enough to have labor that is 'effective.'

In the process of giving Birth, once the waters are broken and released, the birth canal is washed, cleansed, and prepared. The baby's head becomes more-engaged to help with the thinning of the cervix, helping each muscular contraction of that uterus become MUCH-more productive and efficient for the mother's energy-output.

I chuckle... WE are Children of the Universe.
We have the Right to Be Here. We are all here by Divine Grace to Replicate The Plan of Love on the planet.

I wish you much Joy, and enormous Good Luck in the years ahead. *Heart*

With warmth, I relay to you something I've heard an astrologer say about Saturn. I like it! I have a difficult Saturn position in my own chart, where it comes to love. So, I'll share it with you, as though this were to be True!

He said that Saturn DOES give credit for "trying" and for difficult aspects and transit? … haha

Saturn {and God?} knows that there are configurations that are just plainly more "difficult"!!!, and need a different kind of grading-compensation system.
.. Saturn cuts a break by giving extra-points for the "level of difficulty" of a move-- like in sports, and the point-systems used for the Olympic Games. You can "mess-up" and STILL be declared a Winner.

Love and Relationships can really hurt inside when things don't work out like we thought or imagined.

I know that for myself, I tend to 'idealize' each and every person I meet, or situation I find myself in. I see The Best, and miss the flags that say things I would NEED to pay attention to, for my own protections?
.. I have seen (in my lifetime) how giving the other person A Chance, HAS helped highlight TO that other person what is Possible or Good about them. For some people on certain trajectories, this is a Blessing to them that someone can see through the faults and Touch their Best Selves?
.. It's up to *them* at that point to Receive that vision, or to act against it-- pushing ME into the garbage column of their life...

But alas! LOL.
One person's disposable garbage, is another's Treasure?

You/We are STILL Loved, and Much-Lovable.

Do your Best!, in EVERY situation … Always.
Apply plenty of self-forgiveness.

Today is the birthday anniversary of singer Eydie Gorme.

(music) If He Walked Into My Life *bheart* *heart* (Eydie Gorme, 1967) [4:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz67AlpAz1U