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SimplyLuna
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posted June 06, 2018 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What placement/aspect found in the chart that makes someone thinks it's what they want but realized after thinking about it, it isn't. I understand this is vague but this is me. It's starting to bug me because it happens when I am socializing with people.

For example, two friends are talking about someone who did something and Friend A wants to find out her intention. Friend B agrees she observes what she see too. Friend A ask Friend B to ask that someone and she, at the time, Friend B thought it was a good idea... The following day Friend B realize she actually doesn't want to because it isn't her business and she doesn't care to know - not a good idea as she thought. Why does it take this Friend B this long to realize it.

It's like I don't know what I want until I am by myself to think about it. I get persuaded easily thinking I want it too, to find out it isn't what I want. I see others who knows what they want without the delayed process or needing time to think about it. Even the basic stuff.

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Plut0nian2
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posted June 06, 2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting both your question and the fact that you have realised this is happening to you.
The first thing that comes to my mind is Neptune.
3 people I know like that have Mercury in Pisces (1 of them) Mercury in Libra square Neptune (the other 2 ones).
They are easily persuated and they believe people easily too.

I have Moon in Pisces, Cancer Sun in 12th H
Sun ans ASC opposite Neptune and I don't have this problem at all. I am one of the other people you mention who know what they want.
So even though I have that much Neptune and a mutable Moon, I am not like that. My mercury in Cancer makes an opposition with Neptune but it is 11 orbs.
And now it popped up that two of my friends born a few days before me have Neptune opposite Mercury in Cancer 5 orbs and 0 orbs.
One thing they all have in common is that they listen to something from you they forget that they listened to it from you, then they present it like it is something they thought about. Does this make sense?

Example:
Me: I love blue color, it reminds me of the ocean and the sky in the night.
Friend: I don't like it, I like black

After a few days:
Friend happens to see something blue
Friend: Oh I love blue color it reminds me the ocean and the sky in the night
Me: !?!?!?! WtF?

You say something and their brain registers it and then they repeat it. It is something that has freaked me out so much, I find it plain creepy. It is like their brain repeats what it listens to, like they don't have their own thoughts and they don't even realise it. Their memory is BAD too, they remember things wrong if they remember anything at all that is.

But I've found that there is a tendency with mutable sun signs which means that their mercury is probably in the same mutable sign to be easily persuaded in general.

Neptune in 3rd house may have the same effect.
You also mentioned vague which is Neptune's specialty.

I am thinking though that it may not be that you are easily persuated but maybe you are too much in the moment or enthusiastic at that time that you feel like you want to do it but then that enthusiasm dies out you realise that you never wanted to do it to begin with.
That could be Aries or Mars aspect to Mercury even Moon.
I would say Uranus aspects to Mercury or Mercury in Aqua since Uranus rules enthusiasm but I happen to know a few with this aspect/sign and they are not like that.

The way you describe it sound like Neptune
but it could have a different explanation like for example you may want to do it because it makes you feel like it will bring you closer to the other person but you are not indeed interested in doing it.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 06, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Introversion with Water/Neptune, impressionability, Moon/Neptune aspects to Mercury (challenging).

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posted June 15, 2018 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks Plut0nian2.

Those are wonderful feedback. Yes I do realize it now. lol I don't know why such a delay. I feel I need to be by myself to know what I like or who I am. It dissipates when I am with people. I was okay with it before, now I'm at my life who wants to have her own ideas/thoughts and opinions.

It's funny how you mentioned Mercury in Pisces bc that's what I have in my chart! Maybe the Sun in Aries gave me an impulsiveness to those thoughts too.

Kannon McAfee, how come introversion is a factor?

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posted June 15, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Kannon. I would also add mutable moon/mercury.

As Nep/Sun/Jup conjunct,Me/Ju/Ne parallel I often imagine things far greater than what they turn out to be.

Or I initially get involved in something. Only to find that I really couldn't care for whatever I initially immersed myself in at all.

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Plut0nian2
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posted June 17, 2018 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome
The person I mentioned with Mercury in Pisces is my mom and she's Aries Sun too!
Since I have Mercury in Cancer in 1st H conjuct South Node I am the opposite! I can not really understand how someone doesn't know himself but I am very glad that you are aware of it! It will be good for you if you can sort it out.
As a Pisces Moon I have the sponge thing. I absorb and feel others' emotions like they are my own and if I sense negative vibes/mood in my environment it affects my mood too. The difference is that I don't feel like those are my own emotions/mood as in your case with your thoughts. That's what I don't understand. I am never confused and I know that I am affected. It may be that Moon is emotional planet ruled by Cancer which is a Water sign so Pisces being a water sign and having good intuition is a good sign for Moon, while Mercury is considered and air planet since it's a mental planet (mind) and rules Gemini and Virgo which is the opposite of Pisces.
What Mercury aspects do you have and in what house is your Mercury placed? Also could you answer the same for your Moon?

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posted June 20, 2018 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer, maybe, they change their mind a lot depending on their fluctuating mood
So the Moon also, I think

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posted June 21, 2018 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mercury in aspect to neptune, mercury in 12, mercury in pisces would be my first suspects.

neptune dissolve boundaries and when neptune influence mercury by sign, house or aspect, the person is more permeable to pick other thinking without noticing it is not THEIR OWN. said that. Cancer, while sensitive, it is cardinal. cancer has its own thinking and scorpio is too fixed to be influenced

on the other hand, some mercuries are more open than others and in that way "influenced". hey, being open means we are open to hear the other and as such to be influenced. but with neptune it is hard to know where the idea comes from.

mutable gemini can change their mind so easily every second, but it is more atention span, other things become more interesting, constant curiosity for almost everything, so they can get excited about something just to loose interest.

with Libra, becasue they like to weight things up and move from one extreme of an idea to the opposite to be fair and objective, sometimes are blame of saying something and changing their mind, but I do not think that this is the neptunian blending.

while cancers are very moody and i can see how subjectives they are in their evaluation of things, but they are cardinal and tend to have their own ideas, even if these ideas come from their own innerworld which can be far from the real one.

mercury aspected by saturn provides with a sense of separation between their own thinking and that of the others. i suspect that a person with strong neptune-mercury connection without any saturnian help can be at lost.

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posted July 11, 2018 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry! I just had to find a good amount of time to gather thoughts for this to reply to all. Without confusing it with other thoughts around me.

@Aries23Degrees
I can see how Nep/Jup to Merc/Sun even moon plays a role into having big visions — could it be after going through the process, you realize its not what you imagine it to be?

Can it contribute to having grammar?

@Plut0nian2
Hehe, aw! I would like to meet your mom. I don’t come across many Aries suns in my life and to have conversation with another M in P would be funny. Yeah its a strange thing. Now I think about it, I see similarities with Venus in Pisces in my life too. Does your mom have the same placement ? My Venus is in Aries but then 7H Neptune.

My mercury is in 10H square Uranus (~4d) and Saturn (~9d but thats too wide)

Moon in Libra 5H opposes Venus, sextiles mars and conj SN, Pluto too (~7d but still a little too wide)

@arcturus90
So Mercury in cancer or Cancer 3H?

@nordicsoul
If only I can pick up useful thoughts and knowledge to pass back in school haha -- studying was very difficult
Neptune definitely can just blend into the things as if its one. You have no idea how happy I am to find astrology and people to help me with this. Because I thought I was crazy or slow — perhaps being delusional as well.

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posted July 11, 2018 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@simplyluna

You pretty much described me up there.
Well, more like a younger me hehe, becuase I like to think that I have grown wiser and more experienced with time.

It's a lot easier for me to make decisions now, but in the past I was mostly motivated by the emotions other people would arouse in me.

Some of my placements are Moon in Pisces, Mercury square Neptune, Neptune trine Sun, Neptune quintile Moon, Neptune opposite Mars.

Still, I admit that a lot of my actions and decisions are based on a certain sense of duty. Although with my Mercury in Aries and it being squared by Mars, and Uranus, I have no problem saying No and being firm when I think it's necessary.

I am pretty quick to make decisions about small things like daily tasks, and decisions on what to wear or what to eat, where to hang out, etc, thanks to my impulsive and blunt Aries Mercury, and I have no problem sticking with those little decisions and enjoying them (Taurus Sun), but when it comes to making major decisions in life such as jobs and relationships, I have a confused Pisces Moon sitting in the 9th house, never really knowing what it wants, and not being able to stay at one place or one single decision (Sagittarius's itchy feet syndrome), mixed with an inner rebellion (Sun trine Uranus, Mercury square Uranus), urging me to become absolutely free of all the rules and obligations. I'm just not able to make a decision for things that are extremely personal. I am never able to find out what I truly want.

My fiance described me the best when he said that I am my own worst enemy. Nobody had pointed that out to me before. I think this is true in the case of most Pisces/Neptune dominated people, as the fog this planet and its retrospective sign cast on your life, most often make it difficult to make important decisions.

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posted July 11, 2018 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only sign I can think of that “mirror” other people’s choices and/or opinions, is Pisces. They’ll go along for for the ride or for what THEY think they came up with, and then they wake up. And reality sucks. I’ve encountered this phenomena numerous times and I have to say that for someone that is almost purely Cardinal, it’s BS :-/
They can be highly impressionable also in love. They’ll fall in love with someone else’s love for THEM but it’s not reeeeaaallly what they wanted.

Now, pair this with aspects in Aries-which many Pisces Suns have, and you’ve got a recipe for extraordinary impulsiveness that will backfire. On you.

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posted July 12, 2018 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
@Aries23Degrees
I can see how Nep/Jup to Merc/Sun even moon plays a role into having big visions — could it be after going through the process, you realize its not what you imagine it to be?

Can it contribute to having grammar?


I think that that is the problem with having an imagination. There is not much glamour in the mundane. So its never included in the imaginings.

Virgo/Cap and Taurus placements always consider the "in between". In fact I think they relish in those details.

I think what's important to note is that what you are essentially reaching for is the " feeling". As it matters little what you actually "do" if it affords you that feeling that you want.

So we imagine the feeling to be attached to the "doing". I'd it does not, we get to be very disappointed and disoriented.

As what we thought to "do" to make us happy. Does not make us happy. Or afford us with that feeling that we were ultimately reaching for.

What did you mean about "grammar"? Didn't quite catch that.

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