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posted May 29, 2019 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This women's deepest emotions? She has moments where she puts on a tough-love facade, normally she's as gentle as a feather. She gets upset and cries in front of everyone when someone (namely me) refused to do something with her, she doesn't even attempt to hide it either, just let's it all out for the world see, don't know if she does that in all situations, but it stood-out to me. Has moments where she just disappears from everyone, but comes back a few minutes to a couple hours later, even with close family, this I've seen her do on several occasions. And is really close to her family, she's at pretty much every family event she's invited to, at least to those that she's closest too like Mom, Sister, and cousins, she also used to spend a good deal of her free time with two particular cousins, not much anymore because she has a husband and child now. And she's a very reliable person.

So what do you guys think her natal Moon is and why?

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What aspects are being made to said Moon? That can colour the affects of the Moon on the native so that is an important piece.

I am assuming this person has a cusp Moon so you're trying to figure out which one it could be...

My initial thought is Aries Moon. Along with folks with 1st house Moons they tend to wear their hearts on their sleeve, and are very quick to temper and react when something strikes them emotionally. The ones I know are also very family-oriented people. They tend towards the selfish end of the spectrum emotionally also where they will express themselves whether their audience likes it or not.

Taurus Moons are very dry. You almost have to pull it out of them. The ones I know are very reticent to express their true feelings. They have trouble putting it into words. They express their feelings in more physical ways. Only when they reach the end of their fuse will you get a reaction out of them.

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posted May 29, 2019 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I support what is said above.

My Moon opposes Mercury and squares Mars. This colours the Cancer Moon expression considerably. Look at aspects and house position too.

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posted May 29, 2019 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know her exact TOB, but if she is an Aries Moon, it would be sextile Saturn in Aquarius and quincunx Pluto in Scorpio.

If Taurus, it would square her Venus in Leo, and trine her Sun in Virgo (depending on how far in Taurus it actually could be).

I was thinking Aries Moon too, but some things make sense with Taurus too. I think I got her Ascendant narrowed down to one of the cardinal signs, but I'm not sure which. If Cancer, it would give her the Aries Moon, if any of the other 3, it would be a Taurus Moon.

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I think like the people above said the house placement and aspects make a difference. My mom has Taurus moon and she isn’t very emotional. In fact she says she hates crying because it shows weakness. She cares and takes care of family in physical ways. Taurus moon is said to be the best placement for a moon but they are even less emotional than me and Im an Aquarius moon lol. At least in my experience. I think Aries moon is more emotional and reactive. You have an idea what her rising is? That can help a bit.

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posted May 29, 2019 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Taurus Moon so some of it resonates with me. But mine is in H1 so there's Aries energy, too.

What is the relationship between her parents like?

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posted May 29, 2019 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@HelixD

She doesn't have much to do with her Dad, I've met her Mom on several occasions (she's a Gemini by the way), they have a good relationship, minor annoyances like any other Mother/Duaghter relationship, but stable, she has a good relationship with her Sister also.

I know that house placements matter a great deal, that's the problem I'm having, I want to say she's a Libra Ascendant, which would put her Moon in the 7th House, but Aries is also a possibility with a 1st house Moon. She could also be a Cancer or Capricorn Ascendant. All I know for sure is she attracts a lot of Aries energy into her life, her Sister is an Aries Sun, her husband is an Aries Sun conjunct Mercury, several friends and family are Aries Suns at the very least, that close cousin of hers that I described in the OP is a Lunar Aries, and then their is me, a Cancer Ascendant, with Sun in Cancer in my 1st House that is attracted to her. So what's your guys's take on that?

Her b-day is Sept. 5th, 1993, born in Loves Park, IL. for those that want to play around with her chart.

Thanks for the quick replies guys, keep them coming, this good fascinating info😀

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posted May 30, 2019 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, if make her a Cancer Ascendant with an 11th House Aries Moon, how would that differ from an Aries Ascendant with a 1st House Taurus Moon? Anyone else get a chance to play with her chart and come up with your own theories?

Her husband is a Taurus Moon for sure, but I've only met him once, they give off the "I'm with you, but that doesn't mean I have to like you vibe" like they like each other, but can't stand each other at the same time, know-what-mean?

Her closest cousin though, she again is the Lunar Aries for sure, and as I said in other posts, they get along great, they practically share everything together. So what's going on here?

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posted May 30, 2019 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@HelixD

She doesn't have much to do with her Dad, I've met her Mom on several occasions (she's a Gemini by the way), they have a good relationship, minor annoyances like any other Mother/Duaghter relationship, but stable, she has a good relationship with her Sister also.

I know that house placements matter a great deal, that's the problem I'm having, I want to say she's a Libra Ascendant, which would put her Moon in the 7th House, but Aries is also a possibility with a 1st house Moon. She could also be a Cancer or Capricorn Ascendant. All I know for sure is she attracts a lot of Aries energy into her life, her Sister is an Aries Sun, her husband is an Aries Sun conjunct Mercury, several friends and family are Aries Suns at the very least, that close cousin of hers that I described in the OP is a Lunar Aries, and then their is me, a Cancer Ascendant, with Sun in Cancer in my 1st House that is attracted to her. So what's your guys's take on that?

Her b-day is Sept. 5th, 1993, born in Loves Park, IL. for those that want to play around with her chart.

Thanks for the quick replies guys, keep them coming, this good fascinating info😀


i'm a libra ascendant with an aries moon, and i'm perfectly capable of holding my feelings in when necessary or if i'd prefer to keep them private

i don't like everyone seeing all of my emotions especially any that i would see as a sign of weakness in another person and i can push a lot down

i once tried to kill myself, failed, pretended it never happened (no one could tell) and didn't mention it for a couple of years to anyone not even my fiancee (who i had been with for 7 or 8 years at the time, knew her even longer than that)

i do the just disappearing thing though, it'll be a holiday or some **** and i'll slip away for a while come back not mention it etc

my fiancee is an aries moon and has broken down in front of people before, but very rarely and generally will hide it because she doesn't like putting all of her feelings on display either and it gets her mad at herself when she can't (she cares deeply about showing weakness)

my mother is an aries moon and also hates the idea of showing weakness to people and doesn't just show everyone how she's feeling like that either

with an aries moon i've noticed anger is the emotion that can't necessarily be held back, and it tends to be explosive and short lived

if you can have a huge fight with your friend and then 20 minutes later laugh about something unrelated and it's like it never happened then she's probably an aries moon

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posted May 30, 2019 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Dumuzi

You bring up some interesting points, thanks! What house is your Fiance's Moon located?

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posted May 30, 2019 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Dumuzi

You bring up some interesting points, thanks! What house is your Fiance's Moon located?


2nd house placidus 3rd house with whole signs, she's an aquarius ascendant

her moon is also loosely trine saturn (sag), square neptune (cap), trine mercury (scorpio), and biquintile venus/pluto (she has them conjunct in scorpio)

edit: it also sextiles her ascendant and trines her midheaven (scorpio)

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posted May 31, 2019 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its tricky with this example as there are no strong aspects from other planets to the moon(including declination aspects)

Taurus Moon typically is more steady or comes across very consistent. They typically are slow to passion or extreme emotions. Even excitement is contained or restrained(Earth energy does that and conserves energy or resources)

Aries Moon can seem "split" in energy. Like they want to do many things all at once(and usually with speed). There is less consistency here and things move so quickly that it can get chaotic. And that's mostly because of many ideas that they want to implement with each one differing from another.

Also look at the type of relationships the native has maintained. Are they susceptible to sudden flare ups and stand offs? Or is there more calm and groundedness to them?

Taurus dislikes and avoids emotional episodes and "drama". Aries tends to be thrilled by it and will revel ij it at times.But so long as as the emotional bond is given a "boost" through them.

Also, Aries Moon is not highly strategic.There is a tendency to apply a "surface approach" to things which is more direct and "shoot from the hip" approach that wants results NOW.

Taurus Moon takes it slow and is often stongly focused towards a practical bent etc. And they(Taurus) are more focused on the LONG term outcome. Not minding to sit by plans tenaciously for that realization.

Passion is what Aries exudes and there are usually bouts of energy that come and go quickly. They(Aries) have a "strike while the iron is hot" approach and run out of steam aa quickly as they started.

Practicality is what Taurus exudes. With Taurus, the energy is steady and though they can be quite slow to respond. They tend to maintain energy levels for a longer period of time.

Taurus will try to "outlast"
Aries will try to "outrun".

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posted May 31, 2019 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@CardinalT-Square
You said that she keeps attracting Aries people in her life. With that alone I'm inclined to think that her Asc or Dsc ruler is Moon in Aries. Since Aries Moon as the Dsc ruler is not possible (with a Cap Asc the Moon would be in Taurus), she could have a Cancer Asc.

She has no hard aspects to the Moon, Venus or Sun (only a loose conjunction with Mercury), it should be pretty straightforward after looking at the chart of her husband.

Could you post his dob?

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posted May 31, 2019 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea! His b-day is April 15th, 1991.

So, with Moon in Aries, and Cancer Ascendant, I shouldn't bother with the loose Moon square Uranus and Neptune? Also, she's mentioned that she likes magic, and she has a tattoo on her waist, so I know she has Uranus affecting her Ascendant somehow, but I'm not sure how that would fit with her Sun, I've done some more digging, and being Cancer Ascendant, that would put her Sun and Mercury in the 3rd House, but the descriptions I've read say that she would be a person that is constantly still in school and still learning different subjects, and would make an excellent tutor or teacher, but that's not the case, for the longest time, she was a waitress at Texas Roadhouse while going to school for nursing, and now she's graduated and officially a Registered Nurse, so it's like she has 6th House Sun and Mercury.

She got married last August 26th, 2018, and her and her husband finally had a child after enduring that first miscarriage (a Gemini Daughter) the year before. June 14th, 2017.

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Tough. Taurus' can have tremendous emotional composure. While Aries can be more out in the open.

I have a friend with Aries moon, she will respect my boundaries when I assert them. But she can be pretty impatient when she wants to see someone. If I am way to busy to make immediate plans with her she can get a little passive aggressive.

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Tough. Taurus' can have tremendous emotional composure. While Aries can be more out in the open.

I have a friend with Aries moon, she will respect my boundaries when I assert them. But she can be pretty impatient when she wants to see someone. If I am way to busy to make immediate plans with her she can get a little passive aggressive.


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posted May 31, 2019 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant to edit, and then changed my mind. oops

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@Starwr

That sounds like her to an extent, but several years ago, we were both at a relative's wedding (not together) the first half of the night, we couldn't take our eyes off each other, she even told her closest cousin with the Aries Moon that I was cute, then she mentions to her Mom that I was staring back at her through-out the night, her Mom told her "Maybe he (me) likes you" she thought about it for a second and then got up and came over to get me to dance with her (whether or not she was going to ask me or wait for me to ask her, I don't know), I turned away, I didn't want to be seen dancing with someone so young that I was really attracted too, she was only 13 at the time I was 20, plus that just freaked me out that she would attempt a move like that, I have too much cardinal energy myself, so I prefer the aggressive dominate role, not submissive, she waited a few seconds for me to turn around and acknowledge her, but I refused, she went back to her seat and started crying, even turning to look at me as I looked back at her, I could see her face red as a tomatoe, and tears dripping down her cheeks. As the night progressed, I stepped outside while she remained inside, dancing with everyone else (Cha-Cha, Chicken Dance...etc) I would pop in from time to time (usually an hour or so), just listening to the song currently playing, debating weather I should dance to it or not, then she (unconsciously?) dances towards me and gives me the meanest stare she can muster, I'm staring back, thinking to myself "Yep your still ****** at me." Would an Aries Moon still be mad at someone for that long? I just walked away though, (saying to myself) "No amount of guilt is going to change my mind about dancing with you, no matter how hard you try." A few hours later, me and my family head home for the night, my Brother (also 13) mentions that he had danced with her (don't know who asked who though), I'm just thinking to myself "She was attempting to make me jealous." It back-fired though, because I wasn't even in the dance room at the time, so I didn't even know about it until he said something about dancing with her.

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What in her chart would show her marrying someone related to her by marriage? Her husband is related to someone that is with one of her Aunt or Uncles on her Father's side. Pretty sure they met at a Family Reunion.

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posted May 31, 2019 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aries moons can stay mad, but hours later it's more like a hair trigger you can easily start a fight back up again but if you just act like nothing happened then it's over and they'll feel the same

my fiancee and i can have these **** fights and then a couple hours later we'll both be having fun and it won't really matter we'll both still be aware of it though a wrong move can re-ignite **** but if that doesn't happen then it all becomes irrelevant

that's the thing with aries moons though there's not usually a resolution to **** (at least not when both parties are aries moons), you're mad life goes on so you're happy again at some point but the initial thing can still be there and it won't be simmering under the surface or some **** in the moment when **** 's good it's completely gone out of sight out of mind

bring it back into sight though and it's back on like it never stopped

but as far as i go and as far as known aries moons i can think of (my mother, my fiancee,her mother) **** can explode and if there's something better than fighting a couple hours later then the fight becomes irrelevant (if it's something major it will on/off be irrelevant, but if something reminds an aries moon of how they were mad then they'll get mad all over again like **** just happened)

different aspects alter **** , but that honestly seems to be true just generally in my experience and i've only spent a about week or 2 of my life not living with an aries moon woman (my fiancee and i were living together by 19)

interesting that you say that btw my ascendant, venus (libra) mars (cap) and moon (aries) are all cardinal and i dont give a **** which role i take and everyone i've had sex with male or female made the first move or let it be known they were interested first at least

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posted June 01, 2019 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@CardinalT-Square
So I checked her natal chart, her progressed chart, her SR for her birthday in 2017, her daughter's chart and her husband's chart.

Three years ago I started this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/005067.html

Basically, the theory was that in the year a woman gets married the SR chart for that year would have to show interaspects among Moon, Venus and Jupiter - at least by sign.
She got married on Aug 26 2018, ten days before her birthday, so we have to look at the SR that happened in 2017.

Positions of the three planets in the SR 2017:

- Venus = 12° Leo
- Jupiter = 22° Libra

They are sextile by sign.
The Moon is on the cusp of Aqua and Pisces. Only in Aqua would it make an opposition to Venus and a trine to Jupiter by sign and even to an extent by orb.
For the Moon to be in Aqua in the SR 2017 she would had to be born between midnight and 4:45 am.
If my theory is correct, this would reduce her Asc to three possibilities: Gemini, Cancer, Leo

A Gemini Asc would make her Dsc ruler Jupiter in Libra tightly conjunct Mars.
This could explain the Aries people in her life.
Her Venus would be in H3 mirroring the Gemini Venus of her husband.
The Gemini Asc would correspond to her daughter's Gemini Sun.

I would exclude Leo Asc as a possibility since it doesn't mirror anything of the husband's or daughter's placements. Plus it would put Saturn in H7 which indicates marrying later in life and that's not what happened in her case.

A Cancer Ascendant would make her Moon the Asc ruler in Aries, also explaining the Aries people in her life.
With a Cancer Asc she could still have a H3 Venus but barely. A H2 Venus would mirror her daughter's Taurus Venus.

On the day she gave birth her progressed Mercury was at 27° Libra opposing her possible natal Moon position at 27° Aries.
The progressed Moon was applying to an opposition to her natal Mercury (less than 3° orb). Maybe you know of some significant event in her life that took place approximately 2.5 months after she had given birth.

With a Cancer Asc her Dsc ruler would be Saturn in Aqua square Pluto and with Uranus and Neptune in H7.
Her husband could mirror that with a Cap Asc. Neptune and Uranus would be in his H1, his Asc ruler Saturn would be in Aqua - in the same sign her Dsc ruler is.
He would have Mars in his H7 and she could fullfil that with her Asc ruler Moon being in Aries.
He would have a H5 Venus mirroring her Leo Venus.
The Pluto component would be missing in his chart though (I don't care about soft aspects).

Another thing that I saw between her and her daughter is that the daughter with a possible Aqua Moon would mirror the mother's H11 Moon. The child's Aqua Moon would be conjunct the mother's Dsc ruler Saturn and if the daughter has an Aqua Asc, the Asc ruler Uranus would be conjunct the mother's Moon in Aries.
The child would have a H1 Moon which is the mother's Aries Moon and also corresponding to the Cancer energy of the mother's Cancer Asc and H4 Sun.


My bet is on her being a Cancer Asc with an Aries Moon.

How come you have never asked her about her tob?
You said you're a Cancer Asc with a H1 Sun. I'd like to see your chart if you don't mind of course.

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posted June 01, 2019 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HelixID!

Here's my chart Rectified by Kannon:

My actual TOB is 5:23AM according to my BC.

I don't think her daughter would be an Aquarius Ascendant though, since she put up 8AM on FB, it would have to be either Cancer or Leo, her daughter has Sharp pericing blue eyes, so I was thinking Cancer Ascendant with either Mars in the 1st House or 12th House with opposition/contra-parallel to her natal Pluto in Capricorn.

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@HelixID

Just an update, in 2017 after having her baby daughter, she faced a fear of her's July 3rd, 2017 and accepted her current job as an ER Registered Nurse Sept. 1st, 2017, and started not long after, I don't know the exact date though. So facing a fear and a career change took place as major events since her pregnancy.

Her wedding was actually Aug. 25th, 2018. Not the 26th, got the dates mixed-up🤣☺

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Looking at your chart, you have a H1 Sun, her husband has an Aries Sun.
Your Sun is in Cancer, hers would be in H4 with a Cancer Asc. I always say that my favourite interaspect is Asc/Sun in the same sign. You two possibly have that.

Your Asc ruler Moon is conjunct her Mars. She is probably attracted to you. Plus, Moon-Mars interaspects always make for good sexual attraction.

She has her Sun in the same sign as your Venus, so you probably find her beautiful, too.

You have your Mars around the Dsc, so you would want someone with Aries energy. She could do that with an Aries Moon as her Asc ruler.

Your Dsc is in Cap so the chances are you're attracted to older women and she's 7 years younger than you, hmmm... Don't know if she could make you happy long term.

Your Dsc ruler is Saturn in Sag and she doesn't have anything major in Sag (Moon, Venus, Sun), whereas you touch her Mars with your Asc ruler. There's an imbalance more in your favour.

When I wrote my last post I looked at the transits for Aug 26 2018 and saw the transiting Moon in Pisces and I thought about asking you if the wedding was maybe a day earlier since the transiting Moon would be on her Saturn - her possible Dsc ruler, hahaha. That would make sense on a wedding day. I should have asked.

I know a friend of mine asked me to do the synastry for her and the new guy she met. I looked at it and it didn't make sense at all with the birth data she gave for him. I asked her whether she was sure that this was his dob because with that chart he'd never be interested in her.
She said that I'm an obnoxious know-it-all and that the guy should know better when he was born than me. I just told her "Ask him for his real dob."
She told him "My crazy friend says you can't be born the day you said you were."...turns out he lied to her and only after asking him again he admitted his real dob and the chart made more sense with that date. The date he gave her was the one in his documents but his real bitrthday was another. We still laugh about it.

What I'm trying to say is, stars don't lie.

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Of coarse they don't HelixID🤣 That's the beauty of them🔥 I did some more digging, I found out that, when she had her daughter, it was by C-Section, would that show in her natal? Her daughter was born right at about 8:21AM, just an FYI

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posted June 03, 2019 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks HelixID!

Here's my chart Rectified by Kannon:

My actual TOB is 5:23AM according to my BC.

I don't think her daughter would be an Aquarius Ascendant though, since she put up 8AM on FB, it would have to be either Cancer or Leo, her daughter has Sharp pericing blue eyes, so I was thinking Cancer Ascendant with either Mars in the 1st House or 12th House with opposition/contra-parallel to her natal Pluto in Capricorn.


Wait.. you were born at 5:23am? I was born the EXACT same time on my birth certificate Im shook LOL

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