posted June 03, 2018 08:00 AM            

It's a fixation on appearance and materialism, over character development and what I call genuine beauty. Lots of biological factors to take into account, as well.

But, in any event, I think more than anything it's a specialty of Earth signs to be most obsessed with youth..

(Taurus = materialism and beauty. Virgo: need for perfection. Capricorn = fear)

I of course also would like to remain young and beautiful lol but I am coming to terms with my white hairs.

It's no big deal, really. We're born, we grow old, we die. What matters is who we are in the end, since that's what we take with us.

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Isn’t that most of the population? 😂

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Yes indeed!

Also, especially South Korea - the are currently world leaders in beauty products and anti-age substances. Plastic surgery there is extremely common. So common, in fact, a parent will give her 15 year old daughter money for plastic surgery as a birth day present. Plastic surgery vouchers are often given out like candy. It's not just the women, but the men, too, way more often than any western man. They are quite literally obsessed with youth.

posted June 03, 2018 07:13 PM            

I have been obsessed with my looks since I was born. My friends thing I have BDD. It causes a lot of pain and to the point I have started not going out because I dont like the way I look. I am 44. Am I ugly ? My friends, my lovers ( some of them the most popular ) says no. They say you are beautiful... I am not. Really. Yes, I have a charisma that can fill any room. I get noticed where ever I go. I dont wear make up, I dont do my hair. Even though I am complaining about how I look 7/24, I am not really doing much to look better...

I have such a strong distaste for aging that I might die just because of that.

And yes I will be taking botox etc soon.

fear, immaturity, lack of depth... I dont think these define me. Not at all.

posted June 05, 2018 06:20 AM            

Taurus wants to look beautiful. And youth is associated with beauty.

posted June 08, 2018 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Gemini and Taurus.

Taurus wants to look beautiful. And youth is associated with beauty.

Gemini wants to remain relevant. And being young means that you stay "in the loop". Gemini fears being outdated or not 'cool'

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posted June 09, 2018 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Gemini and Taurus.

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posted June 09, 2018 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:

fear, immaturity, lack of depth... I dont think these define me. Not at all.

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm scared of aging, for specific reasons, and I've missed out on certain things in life.

I do not lack depth or maturity. I think that kind of thinking is superficial in itself. People have all kinds of reasons for fearing the things they do.

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For the record, we are all shallow and deep in certain areas. When I said what I said, it was regarding appearance and youth. It doesn't mean that this is all there is. Humans are multifaceted.

Now, if anyone were to chime in and say they are afraid of aging, or are overly concerned with appearing youthful (or what have you), no one would say "oh that's because you're so mature, so deep, so brave and fearless."

No, no one would say that. It makes no sense. The point is to be comfortable about being honest with others and with ourselves about our real motivations. I am not bereft of these aging issues, but let's call a spade a spade. If we think these fears are more meaningful than they are, those are just the narratives we tell ourselves to excuse our fears so that we do not have to be honest about it. That's just basic human psychology. There is no shame in it. Once we admit it, then we can truly deal with it and work on ourselves.
Sure, it can be rooted in many things. An example is, the parent thinks the child is ugly, therefore they do not give the child enough attention. Then, the child grows up traumatized by this, and internalizing the parents views and believing their own self world is derived from how they look. They go through life feeling awful, ugly and ashamed, and feeling unlovable. This unlovable feeling grows and is fed by their own belief which was created by their parents. Eventually the belief itself is what makes them "ugly" because they are spiritually mutilating themselves by harboring such an abusive relationship with themselves. We are our worse critics. Getting stuck there is one thing, learning to have a better view of ourselves is another.

There are plenty of anecdotes out there for why people feel the way they do about how they look, but ultimately, it all boils down to the same thing.

Something I've often noticed in people who dread how they look in such a profound manner (upbringing aside) it is because they are trying to externalize a feeling from within. They feel (usually unconsciously) they have something ugly about them character wise. It could even be preverbal.

Often it stems from something in them they are not completely aware of, something to do with their character. There was for example one girl I knew. She was the older sister of one of my good friends. She wanted full plastic surgery on her face. She believed she was ugly. Of course, no one thought she was ugly. She was pretty, actually. While she was a sweet girl, the thing is, she was terribly insecure, about nearly everything. When someone is governed by fear, it can really mess with your head. And because she was so insecure and believed she was ugly, there was an unconscious confirmation bias going on with her all the time. Whenever she experienced rejection, bad relationships, breakups, spoiled friendships, she blamed her looks. I'm not saying everyone does this, but it's just an example that comes to mind.

She first started off with a nose job. But that didn't really change her, just how she looked. She didn't get to the root. She still experienced hardships, and she began to become sour, bitter, hypersensitive. She thought everything everyone said was a dig and took things super personally. It was to the point that you couldn't even joke with her casually about anything without her turning mean. She'd accuse people of having awful intentions. That's the thing with insecurity. It gets fed to the point that eventually the insecurities we have become all we know, and we can no longer see the world or ourselves objectively. Everything is colored through our fear and self criticism, and we begin to believe others are criticizing us the way we criticize ourselves.

There's another case, interestingly he's got a Capricorn moon. A friend of mine, he believed beautiful people were better than everyone else. But this belief made him angry and hateful of attractive people. Whenever he saw someone beautiful he'd automatically assume they were shallow and stupid, and had it easy, by default. Little did he realize, his judgement was in and of itself shallow. I did in a roundabout way point out to him that regardless of how someone looks, it is who they are that matters. He didn't need to dislike people just because they were attractive. He also judged himself, thinking he was unattractive, and therefore undesirable, and began to try to make attractive people feel undesirable because he wanted to bring them down to his level. He valued their looks above all else.

But anyhow, the point is that we are so much better than we are, and we should be kinder to ourselves, find love for ourselves and heal whatever it is that makes us feel small or afraid. Everyone is beautiful, young or old, but if we don't find ways to feel it in our bones, then it's such a shame because we'd be wasting our unique brilliance.

posted June 09, 2018 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Isn’t that most of the population? 😂

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posted June 10, 2018 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have Venus conjunct Mars in Leo and tend to go for younger guys, mid 20s to late 20s

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posted June 11, 2018 08:09 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^dont you have Venus conjunct Mars in Leo?

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posted June 11, 2018 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Gemini and Taurus.

Taurus wants to look beautiful. And youth is associated with beauty.

Gemini wants to remain relevant. And being young means that you stay "in the loop". Gemini fears being outdated or not 'cool'

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posted June 11, 2018 09:11 AM            

To some extent libra and capricorn too

Taurus is scared of aging and would do beauty procedures to keep themselves young and beautiful

Gemini acts childish and hangs out and often marries younger people

Libra and saturn are conscious of aging too.. Libra because they mourn their lost youthful beauty... Capricorn becuase they're afraid of not having anything achieved by the time they're older