posted April 01, 2020 01:37 AM            

Although the above image is extracted from my own natal chart, I have posted it here only as an example of a chart that has both major and minor aspects involving personal planets (Mercury), generational planets (Jupiter), evolutionary planets (Uranus + Pluto) and the Angles.

And my general/non-personal Astrology 2.0 board questions for forum members are ... which astrological indicator in this chart would you expect to be the dominant influence in the life of the chart owner, and why would you expect it to dominate?

posted April 01, 2020 04:02 AM            

As an example, when taking in your comments online, I can definitely feel the Pluto in the 11th weight and presence, but there is a distinct Uranian quality to it that gives it a sort of lightness that Pluto on it's own doesn't usually have (even Pluto in a fire sign). And then Jupiter on the IC, although less noticeable in a projected way, does give an almost regal type of presence. (Maybe regal isn't the right word, but it is a very life-full presence).

posted April 01, 2020 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
I would probably say Uranus/Jupiter on the Angles, since Angular conjunctions tend to come across strongest from an outside perspective. Pluto and Mercury seem more like outlying powerhouse players, but the core structure is pretty visible.

As an example, when taking in your comments online, I can definitely feel the Pluto in the 11th weight and presence, but there is a distinct Uranian quality to it that gives it a sort of lightness that Pluto on it's own doesn't usually have (even Pluto in a fire sign). And then Jupiter on the IC, although less noticeable in a projected way, does give an almost regal type of presence. (Maybe regal isn't the right word, but it is a very life-full presence).

Another way to put it would be you seem very full of life force.

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Think of the angles as being windows through which we see and are seen by others, implosions ... Asc = strangers : MC = regular contacts outside the home : Dsc = those known well : IC = those whom we regard as family.

Might your above MC/"outside perspective" differ if you were looking through each of the other 3 windows? ... (So - same indicators/same person, viewed from a different angle.)

posted April 02, 2020 12:28 PM            

In my chart longitudinally,Moon/Merc are dominant(on the angles).

posted April 02, 2020 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Include declinations.That can be a complete game changer on "dominance"

In my chart longitudinally,Moon/Merc are dominant(on the angles).

By by declinations,Uran and Nep are dominant(on the angles)🤷🏾‍♂️

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Mercury 15S09 : Jupiter 23S23 : Uranus 23N39 : Pluto 23N06 ... Uranus parallel Pluto : Jupiter contra-parallel Uranus and Pluto.

But ... what would you now expect to be the dominant influence? ... And, why would you expect it to dominate?

posted April 02, 2020 11:05 PM            

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posted April 03, 2020 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Uranus, because it is both square the Asc and highest at the MC.

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Having now lived with this chart for 71 years, I can confirm that Uranus has indeed been the most influential planet in my life.

But which of its three aspects to the other planets would you expect to be the strongest influence, Kannon? ... And why would you expect that?

posted April 03, 2020 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Def Uranus, it’s at the highest point in the chart, also super tight in orb, looks like about 10 seconds away. So jupiter would automatically also be very signicant as well since it so closely opposes on your IC

Imo angles are some of the most important placements in a chart, kind of like an automatic and very obvious influence of planetary energy that can be seen in a person, physically and psychologically.

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But which of the planet-to-planet aspects would you expect to be the dominant influence, BA? ... And why would you expect that?

posted April 03, 2020 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Mercury 15S09 : Jupiter 23S23 : Uranus 23N39 : Pluto 23N06 ... Uranus parallel Pluto : Jupiter contra-parallel Uranus and Pluto.

But ... what would you now expect to be the dominant influence? ... And, why would you expect it to dominate?

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Mc/Ic declinations?

posted April 03, 2020 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mc/Ic declinations?

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23N27 and 23S27

posted April 03, 2020 10:28 AM            

2) Pluto is 88deg26mins from Mercury ... square. ... Orb 1deg34mins, applying.

3) Jupiter is 178deg46mins from Uranus ... opposition, with planets contra-parallel. ... Orb 1deg14mins, separating.

4) Mercury is 45deg59mins from Jupiter ... semi-square. ... Orb 0deg59mins, applying.

5) Pluto is 134deg25mins from Jupiter ... sesquisqusre, with planets contra-parallel. ... Orb 0deg45mins, applying.

6) Uranus is 135deg15mins from Mercury ... sesquisquare. ... Orb 0deg15mins, separating.

7) Uranus is on, and parallel to, MC : Jupiter is on, and parallel to IC : Pluto is parallel to MC.

8) John Addey proposed/recommended maxim orbs of 6 degrees for oppositions, 3 degrees for squares and 1deg30mins for the 8th Harmonic/semi-sextile/sesquisquare. ... 5 of these 6 aspects are within those orbs (with Pluto-Uranus being too wide), but my experience is that all of them have actually manifested as 8th Harmonic aspects* since birth.

posted April 03, 2020 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Can anyone make a case for the strongest aspect being the one with the closest orb? ... Which is Mercury (ruler of ascendant + chart) sesquisquare Uranus (ruler of 5th house).

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Anyone?

[The case for Uranus being the most influential (and visible) planet has already been made. ... But which of its three aspects (to Pluto, Mercury and Jupiter) would you expect to be the dominant influence? And why would you expect that?]

posted April 04, 2020 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
23N27 and 23S27

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It appears Uranus is parallel the Mc. Pluto too. But Uranus is closer.

Jupiter is parallel the Ic. Tighter by contra-parallel aspect to the Mc than Uranus.

Uranus/Jupiter appear to both be strong by longitudinal and declination aspects it appears.

posted April 04, 2020 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It appears Uranus is parallel the Mc. Pluto too. But Uranus is closer.

Jupiter is parallel the Ic. Tighter by contra-parallel aspect to the Mc than Uranus.

Uranus/Jupiter appear to both be strong by longitudinal and declination aspects it appears.

They are interlinked by the opposition aspect and so cannot be considered independently. Both dominate imo.

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So you would opt for Uranus-opposite-Jupiter as the dominant aspect? ... And because the two planets are themselves dominant? (With Jupiter in fall perhaps increasing the likelihood of it being misunderstood?)