posted March 10, 2021 04:06 PM            

Does anyone have more insight into this? Was this just coincidence that I happened to run into these four cases, or is there more to it?

From my own experience with Capricorn men (and women in fact) - which I don't want to generalise - they navigate very much under the subjective assumption that they uphold the law. Sometimes I have found that they confuse themselves to actually *be* the law or be exempt from it. And there seems to be a very strict desire to be in control and that especially involves women and how they are viewed and view themselves. I sometimes felt that a woman's freedom was an affront to their personality. And the Capricorn moon man I knew was proud of not feeling. Feelings were a weakness to him and he looked down on emotional expression while being fascinated.

posted March 11, 2021 02:20 PM            

Look at Rick Ramirez, he was a serial killer who worshiped the devil and killed specially women often raping them, targeted even children and he did it or rationalized it with religion but his religion was the devil, that feels like psychosis to me, this is neptune/pisces and Saggy been channeled in the worst possible way, he was a pisces with moon and mercury in pisces with saggy rising and jupiter in the first, he had delusions of grandeur too and he had leo/aquarius intercepted in the 2H and 8H with venus conjunct mars in aquarius oppposing uranus falling in that interception.

All of that coming together is what was in the works for him: delusions of grandeur, faith channeled in a bad way, intercepted 8th house with venus conjunct mars in aquarius in the 2H (the house of owning things) opposing uranus in the 8H (the house of death, endings, sex) played out for him in a very sick and twisted way. He felt NOT understood by the world and felt no guilt.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ramirez,_Ricardo

My father has sun in capricorn square neptune with moon in virgo conjunct saturn and mars in libra and he is the most unabusive person I know despite having mars square uranus. He did punch a principle in his school in the face when he was in high school bc the principle was in the habit of going around slapping or hitting students and when he approached my father to do this my father defended himself and punched him, I feel that was his mars square uranus kicking in and stepping up against an authority that was abusive and abused his power. Love that story.

posted March 12, 2021 05:01 PM            

Yes, feelings are considered weakness.

They don't like distractions.

posted March 12, 2021 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Yes, being in control of themselves is of utmost importance.

Yes, feelings are considered weakness.

They don't like distractions.

You've got to love them for who they are. Otherwise you will see these as flaws.

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posted March 15, 2021 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
The one guy who held me in a vulnerable position was a Pisces, with moon in Capricorn.

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I'm sorry to hear that. Hope it's a thing of the past.

One of them, probably the most infamous, is also a Pisces with a Capricorn moon. I guess it's a superficial judgment on my part (well, actually, it was a question), but I don't have the stomach to dig deeper and there is just something about status, power, conservative world views and deep insecurity that molds itself to Capricorn in my head. Definitely also my own bias, but I looked them up randomly and it's the first thing I noticed. Looked up D. Letterman as well because he seems to be just that kind of man (remember that Claire Danes interview when she was a teenager, yuk). And he has a Capricorn moon also. They are literally the first 5 accused/convicted men that I googled after watching that show that dealt with a culture of silence and abusive men in power.

posted March 15, 2021 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Yes, being in control of themselves is of utmost importance.

Yes, feelings are considered weakness.

They don't like distractions.

You've got to love them for who they are. Otherwise you will see these as flaws.

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Are you a Capricorn? You said, they. Personally, I think viewing emotions as a weakness is not a flaw, but a danger to one's own mental health and the health of their loved ones. Being late is a flaw, the reification of emotions is taking away from one's humanity.

posted March 15, 2021 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
It would be interesting to see the charts of this men you speak of bc I am willing to bet it has very little do with their sun or moon placement and more with having an afflicted moon with an afflicted mars or a mars that is too strong with an afflicted moon. People who are abusive usually have unresolved trauma, have a very low tolerance for stress and difficulty regulating their emotions and blind spots or they are psychopaths which Is what I feel you are focusing in on in this thread, is just a number of things have to come together and aspects weight heavier along with certain placements I feel to explain things and is also a case by case thing.

Look at Rick Ramirez, he was a serial killer who worshiped the devil and killed specially women often raping them, targeted even children and he did it or rationalized it with religion but his religion was the devil, that feels like psychosis to me, this is neptune/pisces and Saggy been channeled in the worst possible way, he was a pisces with moon and mercury in pisces with saggy rising and jupiter in the first, he had delusions of grandeur too and he had leo/aquarius intercepted in the 2H and 8H with venus conjunct mars in aquarius oppposing uranus falling in that interception.

All of that coming together is what was in the works for him: delusions of grandeur, faith channeled in a bad way, intercepted 8th house with venus conjunct mars in aquarius in the 2H (the house of owning things) opposing uranus in the 8H (the house of death, endings, sex) played out for him in a very sick and twisted way. He felt NOT understood by the world and felt no guilt.

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ramirez,_Ricardo

My father has sun in capricorn square neptune with moon in virgo conjunct saturn and mars in libra and he is the most unabusive person I know despite having mars square uranus. He did punch a principle in his school in the face when he was in high school bc the principle was in the habit of going around slapping or hitting students and when he approached my father to do this my father defended himself and punched him, I feel that was his mars square uranus kicking in and stepping up against an authority that was abusive and abused his power. Love that story.

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Hey, nope, I did not mean psychopaths at all and I don't like serial killer stories or the like.

They are the really (in)famous ones from Hollywood/talk shows/comedy, you couldn't miss them.

posted March 15, 2021 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by dragonflies:
Hey, nope, I did not mean psychopaths at all and I don't like serial killer stories or the like.

They are the really (in)famous ones from Hollywood/talk shows/comedy, you couldn't miss them.

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Thanks for clarifying you are talking about Hollywood and talk show personalities.