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ShyVirgo1979
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posted June 19, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was curious to how someone's love life might play out when their venus falls in their 12th house? Not talking synastry but natal. Any takers?

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posted June 19, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in the 12th, in Scorpio, conjunct Pluto.

Me, I don't do romantic relationships. I like to daydream about romance every now and then, but I don't have a desire to really actually be in a romantic/sexual relationship. I'm attracted to people, but I don't have the "urges" that go with that. That is, I don't want to sleep with them.

Whenever people make sexual advances towards me, I literally feel violently angry, though I'd never act on that unless I felt threatened. I do not like to be touched most of the time. I just don't. I especially hate being touched on the back. I have to really be in the mood for a hug from a friend or family member, even. Just not a hugger.

Relationships are very important to me, but not romantic or sexual ones. I do care a lot about friendships and socializing (I have a packed Libra 11th house).

I like the idea of love, but not the reality.

Love and romance appeal to me more in film, literature, and TV, not in real life.

I feel like my biggest needs for love in my life are friendships and spiritual love/connection with God.

The only time in my life that I was seriously curious about my love life was when I'd done a lot of healing on some personal stuff--there was no specific person or anything, but I had considered dating, and it didn't work out due to some complications. In hindsight, I'm really glad that it didn't, and I feel like the lesson that I was supposed to learn is to accept who I am/how I am and not to be afraid of it more than anything else.

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posted June 19, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seem to take love so, so, so seriously that it is hard to lighten up about it. This may cause relationships to be hurt, as they need ease, too. That is just my 2 cents.

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posted June 19, 2012 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People seem to take love so, so, so seriously that it is hard to lighten up about it. This may cause relationships to be hurt, as they need ease, too. That is just my 2 cents.


I'm like that with friends and other acquaintances.

To be honest, I have a hard time dealing with people who aren't intense like me. They tend to not understand me, be frightened of me, and, on my own side, they tend to bore me. It's hard for me to be satisfied being around them. They're just so...empty.

Anymore, though, I am honestly coming to love my Venus position, both the sign and the house, plus all of the aspects that it makes. I honestly like being intense, and am finding that there ARE other intense people out there who get me and that I like.

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posted June 19, 2012 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RegardesPlatero,

So whats the secret to getting an intense person like you to open up?

Iam dealing with my own... I have venus in aries (12H) and my guy has his venus in scorpio (12H)

With venus rx its tough.

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posted June 19, 2012 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh. Thanks guys I'm asking cuz I'm helping a friend and I'm curious but I'm wondering on my own here, does the sign of the venus count? Or does it even make a difference in the 12th house? With it being 12th house does it get surpressed or something? Like the natural tendencies of that particular venus sign get surpressed cuz it falls in 12th house?

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posted June 19, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
U know what I'm gonna dissect this even further if y'all don't mind lol I'm breaking this down. Y? Cuz I have mercury in virgo and can't help myself

Q1. I've read that venus in a man's chart shows what kinds of women he's attracted to. Is this correct?

Q2. So what does venus in a woman's chart show?

Q3. Does the 12H ruler come into play at all with venus in 12th house? If so, how?

Q4. Do any aspects to venus in the natal have an effect with a 12th house venus?

Hope that's not too complicated lol

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posted June 19, 2012 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Huh. Thanks guys I'm asking cuz I'm helping a friend and I'm curious but I'm wondering on my own here, does the sign of the venus count? Or does it even make a difference in the 12th house? With it being 12th house does it get surpressed or something? Like the natural tendencies of that particular venus sign get surpressed cuz it falls in 12th house?


YES, the 12th house suppresses imo

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posted June 19, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus in Aquarius In 12th House, with Saturn there. My love life was good. I did not lack for loving relationships. I did have a large number of disappointments in terms of getting married, but lots of people love me and I love lots of people. And I had a very active .. ahem.. bedroom life as well.

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posted June 20, 2012 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Junethird:
RegardesPlatero,

So whats the secret to getting an intense person like you to open up?

Iam dealing with my own... I have venus in aries (12H) and my guy has his venus in scorpio (12H)

With venus rx its tough.


Junethird, How do you normally approach love,relationships and commitments?
How has the retrograde been bad for you and your bf?

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posted June 20, 2012 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Junethird:
RegardesPlatero,

So whats the secret to getting an intense person like you to open up?

Iam dealing with my own... I have venus in aries (12H) and my guy has his venus in scorpio (12H)

With venus rx its tough.


Honestly, I do better with other intense people. I overwhelm non-intense people; they underwhelm me.

Non-intense people get freaked out by me, think that I'm creepy or obsessive or something, don't understand it, are afraid of intensity.

I would say that building trust and having things be secure is probably the only way, and it will take time. It's something that I have to intuitively feel (i.e., secure).

Also, since I'm a Venus in Scorpio and you're dealing with a Venus in Scorpio, I'll try to help out your specific case.

Venus in Scorpio people approach relationships in a very intense way that sometimes freaks other people out. We often feel misunderstood and disconnected. We really care about people and are more sensitive than we let on. We need to connect with people in a deep and meaningful way. It's all or nothing with us in a lot of cases. We can be very understanding, loyal, and faithful, but we also expect this from others. We feel very deeply, experience things very deeply. We don't approach relationships in a light-hearted way.

We need to explore people and know who they are. We don't necessarily need to expose what we find to others, but we need to lift the curtain, to see what's under the mask, to know the real person.

We really appreciate honesty and closeness. I personally do NOT do well with silence. Silence is anxiety-inducing for me and sends me spiraling down, down, down. I use silence as a weapon when someone has really deeply hurt me, as I normally love to talk to people (Libra sun/Mercury here). When someone has really hurt me, that's when I go cold and they basically just don't exist for me anymore.

here's a link:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/venusscorpiocompatibility.html

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posted June 20, 2012 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jaiellelove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UGH! Ex-Husband is Venus in Aquarius 12h....

He 'seemed' dreamy...than became a nightmare. He cared more about 'friends' than he did about me or our kids. He didn't take his commitment to me seriously. He was very deceptive...cheated on me and lied constantly (for NO reason). He doesn't like anyone to know him for who he REALLY is...I think he believes no one would love him if they really knew his character (or lack thereof IMO). He kept us in the house, AWAY from his life outside of our front door. He truly led a double life.

Bad experience with 12h Venus IN AQUARIUS!! FML!!! Add Mars in same house/sign plus Pisces ASC and Sag Sun! WTF was I thinking?!?!

I've been wondering if his placements are prime example of a sociopath?

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posted June 20, 2012 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooops I'm a Pisces ASC as well. I come straight home after work to the family and have few friends lol

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RegardesPlatero
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posted June 20, 2012 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jaiellelove:
UGH! Ex-Husband is Venus in Aquarius 12h....

He 'seemed' dreamy...than became a nightmare. He cared more about 'friends' than he did about me or our kids. He didn't take his commitment to me seriously. He was very deceptive...cheated on me and lied constantly (for NO reason). He doesn't like anyone to know him for who he REALLY is...I think he believes no one would love him if they really knew his character (or lack thereof IMO). He kept us in the house, AWAY from his life outside of our front door. He truly led a double life.

Bad experience with 12h Venus IN AQUARIUS!! FML!!! Add Mars in same house/sign plus Pisces ASC and Sag Sun! WTF was I thinking?!?!

I've been wondering if his placements are prime example of a sociopath?


I wouldn't call him a sociopath exactly. I also don't feel that any placement automatically makes someone a certain way. I have a 12th house Venus and am not a sociopath.

Your description of your husband does make sense with his Aquarius Venus.

My guess is that he probably felt limited and overwhelmed in family life, and maybe he wasn't really good marriage material. Some people just aren't suited to that life (me being one of them; see above posts). That isn't bad or good. How he handled things and the choices that he made, though, that's what can be judged as bad or good. It really wasn't fair of him to make a commitment if he really didn't want to make it or if he felt like he couldn't keep it.

I'd also say that Aquarians are big on friendship, often much more so than romantic love. Romance is not the be-all end-all with them. They place a high value on friendship, even when they are detached. Whether they seek quality or quantity with friends, friendship matters a lot with them. I have the sun and Mercury in the 11th (Aquarius' house) and I'm like that too. Romantic love means nothing to me, sexual love doesn't interest me. Friendship, though, and general socializing/succeeding socially are highly important. With Aquarians, friendship is held in high esteem and is valued over romance, generally. Romance is just not as high of a need with them. And, too, Mars is motivation. If his Mars is in Aquarius, he would be motivated by Aquarian ideals/goals.

I'd also say that having mutable placements does not automatically make someone unfaithful. It just means, though, that they need often variety and change to be happy--if not change exactly, they need things to keep moving and being interesting. They get bored easily. They're restless and adventurous: if not literally adventurous (as in traveling), they're curious to try something new or even just think about things differently. With any bad behavior, it's not a case of "my chart made me do it". A chart offers possibilities. What we do with what we're offered is up to us.

I'm really sorry that things didn't work out for you, and I would hope that if you find a new partner, that partner would be more compatible with what you need.

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posted June 20, 2012 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Honestly, I do better with other intense people. I overwhelm non-intense people; they underwhelm me.

Non-intense people get freaked out by me, think that I'm creepy or obsessive or something, don't understand it, are afraid of intensity.

I would say that building trust and having things be secure is probably the only way, and it will take time. It's something that I have to intuitively feel (i.e., secure).

Also, since I'm a Venus in Scorpio and you're dealing with a Venus in Scorpio, I'll try to help out your specific case.

Venus in Scorpio people approach relationships in a very intense way that sometimes freaks other people out. We often feel misunderstood and disconnected. We really care about people and are more sensitive than we let on. We need to connect with people in a deep and meaningful way. It's all or nothing with us in a lot of cases. We can be very understanding, loyal, and faithful, but we also expect this from others. We feel very deeply, experience things very deeply. We don't approach relationships in a light-hearted way.

We need to explore people and know who they are. We don't necessarily need to expose what we find to others, but we need to lift the curtain, to see what's under the mask, to know the real person.

We really appreciate honesty and closeness. I personally do NOT do well with silence. Silence is anxiety-inducing for me and sends me spiraling down, down, down. I use silence as a weapon when someone has really deeply hurt me, as I normally love to talk to people (Libra sun/Mercury here). When someone has really hurt me, that's when I go cold and they basically just don't exist for me anymore.

here's a link:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/venusscorpiocompatibility.html


Thank you!

For me personally i need and love intensity.

Sun gemini
Moon cancer
Rising taurus
Mercury gemini
Mars libra

Him

Sun virgo
Moon gemini
Rising scorpio
Mercury libra
Mars leo

Yes, he uses silence as a weapon too... Goes cold very easily. But does very lttle in the rest of the way.

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posted June 20, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Junethird, How do you normally approach love,relationships and commitments?
How has the retrograde been bad for you and your bf?


Dreaming,

I have

Sun gemini
Moon cancer
Rising taurus
Venus aries
Mars libra
Mercury gemini

I take love/commitments very seriously. My feelings get easily hurt, and i cant help but take things personally... Example, i can tease others but iam very sensitive to being teased back too much lol (cancer moon)

I expect people to keep their promises and tend to hold slight grudges lol iam a stickler for details... So if you said something, just do it.. Dont go changing the plan without atleast informimg me lol not always the most flexile person lol (taurus rising) i also dont share my things very well. I dont like it when people touch my stuff. Its miiiinnne. Dont touch lol

I love to laugh, so jokes, comedy are the way to my heart lol i love discussing, debating geography, politics, beimg all philosophical and Despite my cnstant typos... I blame my ipad lol. I like to write. I never mean what i mean. I confuse people lol yes means no and no means yes lol I need a partner who is witty and can flip from topic to topic in a heartbeat. If i constantly have to explain myself in vast detail i get very bored and annoyed... (gemini sun/mercury) i would be the worst school teacher. Not patient at all.

I dont mind flirting and being direct... Ok underhanded lol... Guise "coffee" as more of a date than coffee if iam not sure on the person... I like making bold advances when iam sure if i like him and he likes me back... So call me impulsive and brash. I suffer from foot in mouth syndrome lol... I cant help it i just blurt things out sometimes...and it usually gets me in trouble. Iam big on being sarcastic too (venus in aries)

I am the worst at making a decision... It might take me forever to decide (mars in libra) but once i do its full speed, guns a blazing, watch out, iam comming thru lol

Yes, i like things to happen quick quick... Because reaching a decision in my mind is dreadful. Its a huge complicated process so if he waffles, once i made up my mind... Iam quick to anger and then i can be quite mean and hurtful with my words. And i do it on purpose iam very impatient. Is hard for me to let the dust settle... Even more so when iam excited about someone. I always rush rush lol.

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posted June 20, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Junethird:
My feelings get easily hurt, and i cant help but take things personally...

I expect people to keep their promises and tend to hold slight grudges lol iam a stickler for details... So if you said something, just do it.. Dont go changing the plan without at least informimg me

I love to laugh, so jokes, comedy are the way to my heart lol i love discussing, debating geography, politics, beimg all philosophical and Despite my cnstant typos... I blame my ipad lol. I like to write.

I am the worst at making a decision... It might take me forever to decide (mars in libra) but once i do its full speed, guns a blazing, watch out, iam comming thru lol


I have a Cancer moon too and, like you, have an air sign Sun and Mercury. I can very much relate to the parts that I quoted. So, you're not alone out there!

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posted June 20, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you RegardesPlatero.

I think my problem is his gemini moon.

His mars in leo i think i get... He needs constant ego boosts but his advances, approaches, well towards me anyway, are never bold flshy like in the traditional leo way...

Also his scorpio ways are very annoying. They confuse me.

His virgoness is just odd... But Bothers me very little.

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posted June 20, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Venus in Gemini in the 12th house, opposite Saturn and Uranus in Capricorn both in the 6th.
As time goes by, I have little desire to pursue a relationship. I feel like most peoples' conception of love is very superficial and and based on lust and infatuation. Infatuation and lust is not love in my opinion. Only a love based on friendship, trust, and longevity is love to me. It's rare.
It will take a long time for me to find a person to share that view with, and if I can't have that, I'd rather be alone and save myself from unnecessary heartbreaks due to differing views about love.
More importantly, my love for knowledge, philosophy, peace and sprituality is greater than getting "married," or whatever.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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posted June 20, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I have my Venus in Gemini in the 12th house, opposite Saturn and Uranus in Capricorn both in the 6th.
As time goes by, I have little desire to pursue a relationship. I feel like most peoples' conception of love is very superficial and and based on lust and infatuation. Infatuation and lust is not love in my opinion. Only a love based on friendship, trust, and longevity is love to me. It's rare.
It will take a long time for me to find a person to share that view with, and if I can't have that, I'd rather be alone and save myself from unnecessary heartbreaks due to differing views about love.
More importantly, my love for knowledge, philosophy, peace and sprituality is greater than getting "married," or whatever.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer


--completely 100% agree

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I've got 12th House Venus in Aqua, gem Moon, mars Pisces... not a sociopath.

I would say I'm way more comfortable with friendships than romantic relationships. But that's b/c I'm pretty serious & intense about them... i hear that's a trait of 7th house saturn in scorpio.

I'm slow to warm up but then extremely loyal, so the idea of multiple romances doesn't appeal to me... A lot of my friends have half a dozen ex-boyfriends under their belt, whom they insist they were "in love with" but now they don't speak because the relationship has ended. That just wouldn't be possible for me....2 of my best friends I've known since grade school... my other 2 best friends I've known since freshmen year of college (11 years). There's not a lot of turnover in my relationships - I still am friendly with all my old flames & wouldn't know how to ignore or cut them out of my life. I'm still waiting for "the one" though.

Sexually, I'm pretty conservative and don't like casual encounters, I need to be comfortable & trust someone to enjoy myself.
The idea of cheating is deplorable to me, I physically get sick from the thought.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ooops I'm a Pisces ASC as well. I come straight home after work to the family and have few friends lol

Out of curiosity, how is your 12th House Aquarius Venus aspected?

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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I have my Venus in Gemini in the 12th house, opposite Saturn and Uranus in Capricorn both in the 6th.
As time goes by, I have little desire to pursue a relationship. I feel like most peoples' conception of love is very superficial and and based on lust and infatuation. Infatuation and lust is not love in my opinion. Only a love based on friendship, trust, and longevity is love to me. It's rare.
It will take a long time for me to find a person to share that view with, and if I can't have that, I'd rather be alone and save myself from unnecessary heartbreaks due to differing views about love.
More importantly, my love for knowledge, philosophy, peace and sprituality is greater than getting "married," or whatever.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer


Is your 12th House Venus in tighter opposing to Uranus then Saturn?

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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I have my Venus in Gemini in the 12th house, opposite Saturn and Uranus in Capricorn both in the 6th.
As time goes by, I have little desire to pursue a relationship. I feel like most peoples' conception of love is very superficial and and based on lust and infatuation. Infatuation and lust is not love in my opinion. Only a love based on friendship, trust, and longevity is love to me. It's rare.
It will take a long time for me to find a person to share that view with, and if I can't have that, I'd rather be alone and save myself from unnecessary heartbreaks due to differing views about love.
More importantly, my love for knowledge, philosophy, peace and sprituality is greater than getting "married," or whatever.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer


Is your 12th House Venus in tighter opposing to Uranus then Saturn?

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ooops I'm a Pisces ASC as well. I come straight home after work to the family and have few friends lol

Out of curiosity, how is your 12th House Aquarius Venus aspected?

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