posted May 09, 2011 07:35 AM            

i have four major planets in 8th house
sun- in aries
moon- in taurus
jupiter- in taurus
mercury- ruler of my chart- in aries

the only square or opposition between all my planets is between moon/jupiter and pluto in my 3rd house, forming t-square with mars in 6th house [mars being my sun ruler]

now the deal is that i was wondering a lot over 8th house stellium, its so confusing that there is no proper description available. my philo is that i believe one should learn about things and then find out how to use them to one'e benefit.
Pluto, the ruler of scorpio is the cutting planet for me because i have a locomotive type chart.now this makes me ponder more over it, how can i use pluto to my benefit?

yesterday i did solar return chart for first time and found this out that area of focus this year can be found by determining which natal house is effectively brought to the Ascendant.
[following is the SR chart data]
yes you got it right, i have got Aries [my natal 8th] on ascendant, with 6 major planets all clustered on either side of the ascendant, 3 in 12th house and 3 in 1st house [sun,jupiter,mercury].
pluto is just 1 degree away from touching the MC, thus being squared by all planets near AC, except sun.
saturn is just 1 degree away from DC
this means the focus for the year is what? first word that pops in my head, Death

yes , i did lose a very very dear friend on January 9th.she was just 20 years old, so dear to me, and she died like i wake up and i see her text and all day i don't receive her text, i call her in evening and i find out that she passed away sudden cardiac arrest]. i would confess that her death changed things for me over-night. one day i wake up being me, the very night, i became somebody i did not know existed inside me. its still so hard for me to face the fact that she is gone. i just pretend in my head that she is just busy and we are just not that much in touch now, but even thinking that she is not here anymore is just totally unbearable,so i don't think about it.i just tell myself, she is busy.

m just so scared of this stellium in 8th house now. if i have to cope with one more death in my life, i will probably kill myself before they are buried.

posted May 09, 2011 10:44 AM            

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Use WHOLE SIGN house system. You may find all them planets in the 8th are now in a different house.[/B]

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if i use whole sign system, planets change position and they are not at all describing me if i do that

neptune in 4th defines me, neptune in 5th doesn't

moon is 8th is closer to describing me than moon in 9th

jupiter in 8th is more like me than jupiter in 9th

posted May 09, 2011 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
1. Death is house 12, not house 8.

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posted May 10, 2011 07:04 AM            

coffee:
8th house is 12th house from 9th house, this means death of philosophy and expansion?

posted May 10, 2011 10:51 AM            

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posted May 10, 2011 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by love being Aries:
m not worried about my death; just coping with death of something related to me, or something that was once mine is too unbearable for me. i'm really not good at letting go

coffee:
8th house is 12th house from 9th house, this means death of philosophy and expansion?

it doesn't make sense, m very lucky in 9th house matters

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posted May 10, 2011 11:35 AM            

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posted May 10, 2011 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
i love my 8th stellium, i dont think its anything to be scared of

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posted May 10, 2011 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by love being Aries:
so what exactly makes you love it? i mean you must have figured some way to use it to your benefit?

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well, i am a scorpio, so i'm naturally intune to it, and the planets that are there sextile my scorpio planets also, so i am further intune to it...it has never caused me problems, infact, it has helped me to see the truth

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posted May 10, 2011 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
Coffee, how exactly does that work that you were talking about? and please dumb it down to laymans terms

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posted May 10, 2011 01:23 PM            

how do you use your pluto energy to see the truth?
i have noticed something that throughout my life, one way or the other, truth in certain matters was always exposed to me, even when the other part didnt intend to, actually there are incidents where i was able to see things which others couldn't see and then those things happened the same way like i told, happened many many times, all the while i thought m just more logical and rational, but there is more to it.

posted May 10, 2011 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by love being Aries:
m not worried about my death; just coping with death of something related to me, or something that was once mine is too unbearable for me. i'm really not good at letting go

coffee:
8th house is 12th house from 9th house, this means death of philosophy and expansion?

it doesn't make sense, m very lucky in 9th house matters

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like this here, coffee

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posted May 10, 2011 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by love being Aries:
coffee: m very much confused now, every house has a 12th house then, or did you mean an activated house?

m not getting this thing now..

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Count 12 houses from the 3rd, with the 1st house you mention counting as the first house....

3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2.

This is called derived houses.

Communication is house 3. If you want to find how your partner communicates, you look at the 3rd house from the 7th (as 7 is the house of your partner) .....7, 8, 9. House 9 is how your partner communicates.

As death is house 12, you count 12 houses from whichever house you want to know will experience a death.

Death of mother is house 9, which is 12 houses from your mother (house 10)
Death of father is house 3, which is 12 houses from your father (house 4)
Death of friend is house 10, which is 12 houses from your friend (house 11)
Death of sibling is house 2, which is 12 houses from your sibling (house 3)

Is this helping?

posted May 10, 2011 01:40 PM            

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posted May 10, 2011 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
Count 12 houses from the 3rd, with the 1st house you mention counting as the first house....

3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2.

This is called derived houses.

Communication is house 3. If you want to find how your partner communicates, you look at the 3rd house from the 7th (as 7 is the house of your partner) .....7, 8, 9. House 9 is how your partner communicates.

As death is house 12, you count 12 houses from whichever house you want to know will experience a death.

Death of mother is house 9, which is 12 houses from your mother (house 10)
Death of father is house 3, which is 12 houses from your father (house 4)
Death of friend is house 10, which is 12 houses from your friend (house 11)
Death of sibling is house 2, which is 12 houses from your sibling (house 3)

Is this helping?

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posted May 10, 2011 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I thought death was represented by the IC, the house of endings (the lowest point in the chart).

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are you trying to kill me??? my moon sits on my IC, lol

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posted May 10, 2011 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
are you trying to kill me??? my moon sits on my IC, lol

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posted May 10, 2011 02:11 PM            

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