posted March 02, 2021 04:35 AM            

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For example, let's say a person has natal Venus trine Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. How would those outer planets play a part, when let's say Uranus is transiting natal venus in a square? Is the main effect felt singularly as transit Uranus square Venus, or do those natal trines to venus color the way transit Uranus affects Venus? If so, to what extent?

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The natal promise of both Venus and Uranus would be a factor here.

In the natal chart, Venus is being shaped/modified/"taught" by the slower-moving bodies of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. ... The slowest moving body (Uranus) is shaping the other two, and Saturn is also shaping Jupiter.

So ... what is "promised" here is that the chart owner will be impelled to change his/her values (Venus) during the course of the current lifetime - and the signs+houses of Jupiter/Saturn/Uranus show what that change will be; the trine indicates the ease with which the chart owner will adapt and the speed of those three bodies indicates the relative importance of absorbing its lesson. [Thus, Uranus is "promising" to make the most important change in the chart owners values.]

So, in this example ... transit Uranus is delivering its (natal sign+house) lifelong lesson, but from a new perspective (transit sign+house) ... and natal Venus is receiving it more easily/clearly than would be the case if it was not coloured/modified by its natal trines to Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. ... Thus, thus outer planets influence the receptivity of natal Venus to the message/lesson of the transit.

posted March 02, 2021 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
The natal promise of both Venus and Uranus would be a factor here.

In the natal chart, Venus is being shaped/modified/"taught" by the slower-moving bodies of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. ... The slowest moving body (Uranus) is shaping the other two, and Saturn is also shaping Jupiter.

So ... what is "promised" here is that the chart owner will be impelled to change his/her values (Venus) during the course of the current lifetime - and the signs+houses of Jupiter/Saturn/Uranus show what that change will be; the trine indicates the ease with which the chart owner will adapt and the speed of those three bodies indicates the relative importance of absorbing its lesson. [Thus, Uranus is "promising" to make the most important change in the chart owners values.]

So, in this example ... transit Uranus is delivering its (natal sign+house) lifelong lesson, but from a new perspective (transit sign+house) ... and natal Venus is receiving it more easily/clearly than would be the case if it was not coloured/modified by its natal trines to Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. ... Thus, thus outer planets influence the receptivity of natal Venus to the message/lesson of the transit.

[Note : The key here is to recognise that the natal trines are just one point in the planetary cycles between Venus and Jupiter/Saturn/Uranus. ... And that the ultimate objective of each cycle is for Venus to integrate completely with the other planet (at their conjunction point). ... So, the natal chart shows the extent to which Venus has been coloured in the planetary cycle which was active at the time of birth ... (i.e.. the starting point of Venus in its never-ending evolutionary movement/transit from conjunction to conjunction.)]

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I had to read this three times in order to even begin to understand 😂

So am I understanding this correctly:

If Venus, located in the 10th (Leo), trines Saturn and Uranus in the 3rd (Sag), and Jupiter in 7th (Aries), its original purpose could perhaps be that Venus values loyalty, the arts, the self, love, and passion as relates to being in the public eye or using those qualities in the career, and it is colored by the 3rd house planets, which promote communication and writing, giving it the Sagittarian philosophical and optimistic air, but Saturn making Venus work to achieve, and Uranus bringing it original ideas or sporadic changes. Jupiter perhaps aids with partnerships from higher ups or even philosophical minded relationships.

With Uranus now entering the 8th house (taurus) and squaring natal venus, is it perhaps shedding a light of transformation, of rebirth in the area of the hidden, or of money, perhaps even sex and intimacy, into what Venus should be valuing, in order to spice things up? Or change things altogether?
Natal venus is also conjunct Sun, Merc,and Mars natally, so I'm sure this transit also affects all of those planets as well.

posted March 02, 2021 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
I had to read this three times in order to even begin to understand 😂

So am I understanding this correctly:

If Venus, located in the 10th (Leo), trines Saturn and Uranus in the 3rd (Sag), and Jupiter in 7th (Aries), its original purpose could perhaps be that Venus values loyalty, the arts, the self, love, and passion as relates to being in the public eye or using those qualities in the career, and it is colored by the 3rd house planets, which promote communication and writing, giving it the Sagittarian philosophical and optimistic air, but Saturn making Venus work to achieve, and Uranus bringing it original ideas or sporadic changes. Jupiter perhaps aids with partnerships from higher ups or even philosophical minded relationships.

With Uranus now entering the 8th house (taurus) and squaring natal venus, is it perhaps shedding a light of transformation, of rebirth in the area of the hidden, or of money, perhaps even sex and intimacy, into what Venus should be valuing, in order to spice things up? Or change things altogether?
Natal venus is also conjunct Sun, Merc,and Mars natally, so I'm sure this transit also affects all of those planets as well.

I have no idea, interpretation is hard 😂 It's an artform!

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The complexity does make the process difficult to understand (and execute), MC.