posted November 18, 2012 06:48 AM            

Just wondering if anyone out there had any thoughts about what natal aspects may suggest substantial ability as a legal professional?

Or are there any lawyers or law students who would like to share their natal charts, or aspects they think may contribute to their ability and/or success in the industry?

I am considering a career in law. But it's considerably different to my current occupation. Decisions decisions.

I'm pretty sure that law and anything legal is ruled by the 9th house. But then I was wondering if perhaps the 7th house has anything to do with it also given that 7th is ruled by Libra, and Libra is also associated with law. Does anybody know which is correct?

I am thinking that I have 5 planets in Libra, ruler of the 9th in the 1st, and a Mercury/Pluto conjunction - all perhaps supporting a career in law. My chart is below just in case you would like to see.

What do you guys thinks about the astrology of a lawyer?

posted November 18, 2012 12:13 PM            

How much of the legal system is really, truly about fairness and justice? I think that most Libran people would be attracted to law and then find themselves really disappointed and disillusioned with it fast when they find out it has little to nothing to do with the things they value most.

Unless you can maintain that sense of optimism and idealism and believe in trying to fight the good fight anyway in spite of all of that. Like, "I know this system isn't fair, but I'm determined to try and make it a little more just."

If you decide it's worth it to you to try anyway, well you definitely do have a chart that displays that potential. If you decide you want out of that at some point too, remember that Libra is more that just law - it's linked to the arts and creativity too.

posted November 18, 2012 04:11 PM            

But like Stacy said, how much of the legal system can we trust? I found myself suddenly disgusted when I realized how much the justice system was failing our country. I realized that so many innocents are taken away and so many evil people are let free. What could I do? Could I bear the pain of losing what I believed in, or fighting against a massive evil with too much darkness to uncover?

I didn't have that optimism that Stacy comments you need to conquer these feelings. Instead, I'm pursuing my path on the flipside of Libra, which is the arts and humanities, and humanitarian activities as well [11th house emphasis adds to that there, as well as Venus, which disposits my Sun, falling in the 11th].

posted November 18, 2012 05:24 PM            

My father ran a successful paralegal firm most of his life he is a Leo Sun with a whole stellium in Libra.

Looks like you have some things in common with him in your chart

posted November 19, 2012 12:58 PM            

I suppose if you use the classic rulers of the planets, My Mars is a house ruled by Jupiter.

posted November 19, 2012 02:42 PM            

Chart ruler in Libra, and a host of powerful planets there too, yes, basically, your Libra loaded chart would be successful as a lawyer as Libra can see both sides of an issue, an invaluable quality in this field. Lawyers have to be able to argue practically any issue.

Then the position of Mars. Successful lawyers in the US need to have a fighting mentality since the profession is not so much about the search and application of the truth, but about WINNING! Your Mars in fiery Leo is sextile Saturn and Jupiter, and in the first house, no less! So it's all about YOU, and yes you will be a flamboyant lawyer and will have the energy, the gall and the gusto to go out, take down opponents, win cases and make tons of money (loaded 2nd house). North Node close to the ascendant supports you in making it all about YOU.

posted November 19, 2012 04:07 PM            

Moon trine Mars supports the fighting energy.
Mercury on the ascendant can confer excellent communication/speaking skills.

posted November 19, 2012 07:17 PM            

Being a prosecuter I'd run the risk of putting away an innocent person and even if it happened just once it would be too many times. But if I were a defense attorney I'd be disbarred pretty quickly because if I knew a client was guilty or they came right out and told me, I would turn them in.

Isn't it ironic how as a civilian if you have knowledge of a crime and don't report it you can be held accountable for the crime but if you're an attorney you can't divulge your knowledge or there goes your career. Like someone said, it's not really fair or about justice. Too bad because I would have been very, very good at it.

posted November 20, 2012 04:34 AM            

Pluto square Mercury
Pluto trine Mars
Pluto conjuct Saturn
Pluto square Sun
Sun conjuct Mercury
Pluto and Saturn in 8th

posted November 20, 2012 07:26 AM            

I work as an attorney and am told I am quite good at what I do. I represent plaintiffs who are victims of medical malpractice, so there's a lot of hand holding and listening to extreme tales of woe. Men and women cry in front of me at depositions all the time, and I'm pretty good at combining the art of compassion with the warrior spirit needed to go up against our opponents. So, what makes me suitable for it is my ability to be compassionate to the client, not so much any stunning legal intellect, although I have also been told my occasional motions and appellate briefs are well written.

Funny, I fell into the law rather by accident (I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true... I started dating a guy who was in law school, and it occurred to me maybe I should go to law school... not like it was what I always wanted to do "when I grew up").

I have difficulty putting up my chart since I switched from a regular PC to a Mac, but here is my info: born Tel Aviv, Israel on Nov. 1, 1969 at 1:15 pm.

posted November 21, 2012 07:39 AM            

Thanks so much for all your valuable feedback. It looks like generally speaking, there is a definite trend towards Libra and Sag influenced people being associated with the legal profession.

Study in the area of law is definitely something I have always thought about doing, but never actually seriously thought about it. But for whatever reason I thought it would be a good idea to pursue the sciences. Now I realise that longterm, research is not where I want to be. Except now I feel like if I go back to uni again maybe I'm going to be a professional student. It's interesting that I have really started actually seriously working out the logistics of it all since the solar eclipse last week. It has lit a fire.

@StacyLewis I think you're right that probably little about the legal system represents fairness and justice. This is something I've considered, and you're right, it's likely something that would frustrate me. I think the level of disappointment would likely depend on the type of law. Like I don't think family law would really be something I would do well with. I like your idea of entertainment law though :-)

@TaurusRising I think you're right about the type of law. I have considered doing intellectual property law because it probably fits the best with my science background. I think it probably fits with the 3rd house mercury. But mercury conjunct pluto, what specialisation do you think that fits?

@sweet-scorpion I can see what you mean. I know that it could come up as an issue. But I guess it gives me an opportunity to try and make things as fair as possible. Your dad sounds like he has quite an interesting chart. I haven't heard that mercury at 29 degrees shows an obsessively deep thinker. I'm obsessive about researching and getting to the bottom of whatever it is that has me going, but I though that was my mercury/pluto conjunction.

@violet7887 Yep definitely some stuff in common there with the Leo and Libra influences. How many planets did your father have in Libra, and in what house do you know?

@AcousticGod Do you think the Sun conjunct Saturn in the 2nd in terms of discipline to get to where I want to be? Or in terms of having the ability to be more staunch in attitude and not get caught up int the emotion of potential disappointment?

@ail221 I guess Sun conjunct Jupiter still adds a bit of Sagittarius influence, and opposite Saturn in Capricorn in the 9th. Do you know what you want to specialise in yet?

@starmoon Wow - 7 planets in Libra! I thought I had Libra overload lol. I know what you're saying about how it may make me feel. Not sure how I will go with it.

@Belage You make it all sound so perfect. It's a good point you bring up about Libra seeing both sides of an issue. I always do, and this in turn allows me to argue either side. I really like my Mars. I think I'm lucky to have this placement. It allows me to be feisty and maybe a bit agressive when I need to be, which is likely to be often in a legal occupation. The money would be nice too. It's got to be better than life sciences research lol.

@Exploded Canary Thanks for sharing your chart. You don't have Libra or Sagittarius placements either. But 7th house ruler in the 9th.

@Ami Anne Nice to see you Ami, it's been ages. I haven't really been around much lately. I hope you are well. Do you think I have a well placed Jupiter? I sometimes think it makes me too responsible given that it's conjunct saturn. Kinda puts a dampener on my ability to have fun.

@pisces moon I can see what you're saying, and you bring up some good/interesting points.

@Dreamweaver Your husband sounds very good at what he does. The virgo sun would make him very detail orientated, but the asc and merc in leo would definitely give some fight. Do you have any libran influence in your chart?

@JLyn ~ Have you thought seriously about doing the law school thing? You have a lot of pluto aspects. What house is pluto in? What area of law interests you? I've never thought about the moon/venus sextile like that, but I can see how that works. I do like an emotional outburst here and there lol.

posted November 21, 2012 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Amphitrite:
Hi guys,

Thanks so much for all your valuable feedback. It looks like generally speaking, there is a definite trend towards Libra and Sag influenced people being associated with the legal profession.

@sweet-scorpion I can see what you mean. I know that it could come up as an issue. But I guess it gives me an opportunity to try and make things as fair as possible. Your dad sounds like he has quite an interesting chart. I haven't heard that mercury at 29 degrees shows an obsessively deep thinker. I'm obsessive about researching and getting to the bottom of whatever it is that has me going, but I though that was my mercury/pluto conjunction.

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Yeah... that is a good point. I just found it too deterring and outside of my interests to pursue it in the end. For some it's a motivating factor, but for me it was too disheartening and not motivating enough unfortunately.

Interesting you mentioned Sag influenced... my dad has Venus in Sagittarius, Neptune in Sagittarius, Jupiter in Sagittarius too. I also have Sagittarius rising and Venus conjunct Jupiter, and my Moon in the 9th.

posted November 21, 2012 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Amphitrite:

@ail221 I guess Sun conjunct Jupiter still adds a bit of Sagittarius influence, and opposite Saturn in Capricorn in the 9th. Do you know what you want to specialise in yet?

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Corporate Law; U.S., Cross-Border and International Mergers and Acquisitions.

posted November 21, 2012 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Amphitrite:
@TaurusRising I think you're right about the type of law. I have considered doing intellectual property law because it probably fits the best with my science background. I think it probably fits with the 3rd house mercury. But mercury conjunct pluto, what specialisation do you think that fits?

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Funny you mentioned that, my first thought was IP Law, but since I didn't know know if you had science/technical background, I didn't mention it. However, since you do, that would definitely be the way to go in my opinion. There is a lot more money in that than most other law tracks. Which is also good for your 2nd/3rd house pluto, in terms of making money and IP law. Pluto is about creation and power struggles. What better than that for intellectual property rights?

My lawyer friends would tell you to run far far away from law, but IP law is very specialized and very different. I personally think your chart is set up great for IP law.