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Aries Eagle
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posted August 28, 2020 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just find it fascinating that Jupiter completes a full circle around the Sun in about 12 earth years (11.86 exact ≈ 12 approximately) which gives rise(?) for the Duodecimal and Sexagesimal system the way we count time and date.
Astrologically Jupiter spends ≈ 1 earth year in each sign of the 12 zodiacs.
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Roger Hanson: The origins of the number 60 as a counting method
The numerical system based on 60 originated with the Sumerian civilisation, 4500 years ago. Sumer was located in what is now the southern part of Iraq. It is thought the number 60 is related to the origin of the number 12, which is the number of joints on 4 fingers of a hand, the thumb being free to count.

Five repeated hand counts delivers the number 60 which was used as the base for counting large numbers. Scholars of ancient history think that the finger-joint counting pioneered by the Sumerians explains why much of the ancient world based their numerical systems on 12 and multiples of 12, such as 24 and 60.

This system was handed down to the Babylonians, another ancient civilisation that emerged just north of Sumer on the banks of the Euphrates river about 600 years after the Sumerians.

The Babylonians were very good mathematicians and inherited the sexagesimal (60) based counting system from the Sumerians which they used for a more elaborate counting system written in tables of symbols.
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The Sumerians, using their finger-joints to count the duodecimal (12) system, divided the day, sunrise to sunset, into 12 parts, so the combined day and night was divided into 24 parts. About 3500 years ago the Egyptian civilisation became the dominant civilisation and they embraced the duodecimal system (base 12)

The Egyptians were responsible for the concept of 24 divisions of the day but it wasn't until 1300 years later that the Greeks put in place the requirement of 24 equal divisions of hours, 12 for the day and 12 for the night. It is interesting that when they wanted to subdivide one hour into equal segments, they unhesitatingly reverted to the sexagesimal system they inherited from the Egyptians and Babylonians. Hence the 60 divisions of an hour into minutes.



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Randall
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posted August 29, 2020 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aries Eagle
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posted August 29, 2020 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it just a coincidence?
Any more insights about this beautiful planet, please. could the Sumerians have gotten the duodecimal system by observing Jupiter?

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posted August 31, 2020 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 31, 2020 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the ancients who were more direct observers of the sky (before modern urban light pollution) could see it really clearly. Therefore, they were well versed in the base-12 system of the cosmos. Jupiter is just a part of this.

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posted September 01, 2020 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kanon. Now I can see why different cultures called planet Jupiter "the supreme god" or "the supreme god of the sky"!

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posted September 02, 2020 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it was the civilization before those.

Atlantis, for example.

The same folks that acquired the ability to read and write.

Stone circles have embedded astro info so the knowledge was likely way before then, maybe 50,000 years ago.


"12,000 YEARS OLD: The oldest stone circles in the world are at Gobekli Tepe in Anatolia, Turkey. Only recently excavated, the oldest circles date to around 9000 BC, more than twice as old as the Egyptian pyramids. About 20 stone circles have been discovered here, with uprights of massive T-shaped pillars, many carved with animals. Another nearby massive site at Karahan Tepe has yet to be excavated."

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posted September 02, 2020 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think there was Atlantis or something very similar to it.

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posted September 12, 2020 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 15, 2020 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake Lady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It makes the math easier because there are more clean divisions of the number 60 than with other numbers. By clean, I mean whole numbers instead of fractions/numbers with decimals...ewww. The same reason the circle is divided into 360 degrees - it makes trigonometric calculations easier. If you had to calculate natal charts by hand you would be thanking these smart ancients for making the numbers clean for you.

Traditionally, Jupiter rules higher education and scientific thought. Not a coincidence, of course. As for which one caused the other, I think the ancients had a vast knowledge of Astrology AND math, so they could have done it for purely mathematical reasons AND been aware of Jupiter's numerological connection to the number 12.

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posted September 25, 2020 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Snake Lady for your insights.

I've just discovered the *controversial* Ramanujan Summation which states that the summation of all natural numbers =-1/12 not infinity!!


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